With Fire and Sword 2 (Огнем и Мечом (II) 2: Total War ) !!!!RELEASE!!!! v 0.9.2 BETA

[-Arturo-]

Guys any Crimean Tatars pics?

[komatozz911]

and some turks:

[komatozz911]

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[Ensis1410]

In my opinion instead Sieradz should be Kalisz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adminis...n_Commonwealth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalisz

[Vladyvid]

In my opinion instead Sieradz should be Kalisz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adminis...n_Commonwealth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalisz

Kalisz could be too close to Poznan, Sieradz is a bit further, so Sieradz is in a better strategical position.

[Ensis1410]

When units of Cossacks looks as if the Cossacks were rich. In that case the question arises why should rebel? Please show a poor Cossack units. For example, the peasants/чернь/czerń.


Nice note:
http://translate.google.pl/translate...e-kozakow.html

A few photos of the Cossacks:

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Photos from the battle game: http://www.fireandsword.wargamer.pl/index.php

[komatozz911]

Ensis, what about "golota"? are they look reach too??

[Ensis1410]

I can not locate the screen "Golota", please send me the link.

[komatozz911]

Ensis, http://mods.totalwars.ru/images/M2TW.../cos/Gol-2.jpg

[Ensis1410]

Vladyvid the OiM he was and it was good.
Thx, also look very elegant. The OIM was a very cool one unit of the peasantry(czerń) as in the Renaissance mods. I lack such ordinary peasants(czerń) who rebelled against the nobility.
Such, for example:

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[KamilW]

Ensis, I already tried convincing them to do what you're suggesting, but some people say cossacks weren't poor. There were some rich cossacks of course, but most ones were poor. Or they say that many pictures (like the ones you show for example) are fantasy and that in no way such clothing was historical for them.

If you want to continue this conversation and try to convince our friends, I suggest you read everything since page 5. And good luck !

[Vladyvid]

I guess that is a cossacks and peasants debate rather than just cossacks, because the russians are in my opinion right to think peasants were not cossacks. Then at some level it seems to be a semnantic issue. Anyway I agree that there should be some peasant militia available for the Zaporozhyan faction. ... very large units, like hordes of orcs ;P hehe

[KamilW]

I guess that is a cossacks and peasants debate rather than just cossacks, because the russians are in my opinion right to think peasants were not cossacks. Then at some level it seems to be a semnantic issue.Anyway I agree that there should be some peasant militia available for the Zaporozhyan faction. ... very large units, like hordes of orcs ;P hehe

I it's a language problem. The Russians are not right. I clearly stated several times that there should be units like the ones you describe (like hordes, poor cossack peasants). It doesn't matter if you call them cossacks or peasants or cossack peasants; the message is very clear. There should be units in it who like poor peasants, like Ensis said, regular rural population. This is something I've also said several times; not only the "warrior cossacks" fought, during the uprisings the rural population fought too. Then when we got this far, the Russians showed us a picture of what according to them is "rural population". IMO they should be dressed in another way, like on Ensis' pictures. But the Russians say that kind of clothing is fantasy. The Russians are wrong, partly because they don't understand everything I'm saying.

[Ensis1410]

You have to remember one Cossacks Zaporoska is not the whole Ukraine. Zaporoska Cossacks were well armed, but the Cossack army was composed not only of them. During the uprisings was the rural population.

In OiM1 was well

[AppS]

who rebelled against the nobility.
Such, for example:

%)))
this fantasy figures "cherns" are with Flag of Chernihiv regiment (polk reestrovy!!!) % ))))
that clearly shows the level of knowledge about cossacks of the author figurines


Here are the rights Cossack under this flag

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[Ensis1410]

No fantasy, just can flag false. These figures are regarded as excellent in Europe. In addition, farmers also understand the formation and not every peasant was the sicz. Zaporozhian Cossacks to the elite, the rest of the army consisted of registered Cossacks, who have betrayed and peasants. You think that the peasants did not take part in the uprising?


PS: it will be possible to set the settings trucks/rolling stock (tabory) in a defensive position?

[Mhaedros]

Swedish Kingdom
Faction lider - Karl IX - 69 years old, King
12 provinces from the start: Stogholm (Capital), Evle, Falun, Karlstad, Kalmar,
Abo, Helsingfors, Revel, Narva, Vyborg, Korela, Noteborg

Make that Åbo

[komatozz911]

i'm not shure if it possible... tabory its mounts and they have mount formation...

[atheniandp]

Well, there are wagon forts in Medieval 2 so perhaps they can be implemented as a fort model for the Cossacks?

How's progress coming along guys?

[komatozz911]

I meant wagon forts its mounts and cant be something else...

progress dont stop)) we complete turks units and began persians..