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    Update:

    Paul Ryan wins out.

    (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's selection of Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate could dramatically shift the race for the White House into a debate between two sharply contrasting views of government spending and debt and its role in the daily lives of Americans.

    In choosing Ryan - a budget hawk whose provocative plan to reduce government spending has won him fans in the conservative Tea Party movement and made him a target for Democrats - the typically cautious Romney on Saturday took the biggest gamble of his year-long candidacy.

    Romney also essentially acknowledged that the core argument for his campaign - that Democratic President Barack Obama's stewardship of the economy has failed - may not be enough to push Romney to victory in the November 6 election.

    So he has embarked on a high-risk, high-reward strategy of aligning himself with Ryan, whose budget plan would cut taxes and restructure Medicare, the popular government-backed health insurance program, and other safety-net social programs to try to inspire investment and rein in runaway government spending.
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    Sometime soon, probably after August 1st, but before the Republican Party convention starts on August 27th, Mitt Romney will choose a running mate. Who do you think is most likely to be chosen? Who do you think would do the most to help Romney win the presidency? Who would you choose if it were up to you?

    I'll list up the contenders here, but feel free to suggest anyone I might have missed.

    Bobby Jindal: Solid credentials as a social and fiscal conservative that would help to pull in voters on the right who have their doubts about Romney. Jindal also has plenty of executive experience.

    Rob Portman: Might help in Ohio, which is an important swing state. Apparently a skilled political operator, and fundraiser, he's already working closely with the Romney campaign. He also has loads of experinece in the executive branch (served in cabinet twice) and the legislative (12 years in Congress, now in the Senate). On the downside he is really boring.

    Pat Toomey: Solid credentials as a social and fiscal conservative and he might help to win Pennsylvania. Only two years in the Senate and six years in Congress before that.

    Bob McDonnell: Successful governor of Virginia, would play well with conservatives, but has some history that might play badly on the campaign trail.

    Chris Christie: Solid record on economic issues in New Jersey, and sure to perform well in debates and on the campaign trail. On the downside he is another east coast, blue state Republican like Romney who will do little to reassure conservatives, and there is little chance that he would swing New Jersey for Romney. Christie says he doesn't want the job, but looks like he is auditioning for it, and has suggested that he could be persuaded to change his mind.

    Tim Pawlenty: Successful conservative in a generally liberal state, but he performed poorly on the national campaign trail.

    Condoleezza Rice: Lots of foreign policy experince, would probably campaign well, and checks two boxes on the diversity form, but probably too closely associated with the Bush administration. Rice is very popular with Republicans but says she definitely doesn't want the job.

    Marco Rubio: Looks good, sounds good, would probably bring Florida and a slice of the hispanic vote, but doesn't have much in the way of experience.

    Paul Ryan: Knows budget issues inside out, and would be a draw for fiscal conservatives, but otherwise wouldn't add much to the ticket.

    Kelly Ayotte: Solid social conservative credentials, she served as a prosecutor in New Hampshire for five years, and Attorney General for seven years, before being elected to the Senate in 2010.
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    Jeb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
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    I wouldn't rule Jeb out as a future contender, but there is no way that Romney will pick him this time around. That would be too much of a gift to Obama who would love to run against the Bush record.

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    Bobby Jindal has absolutely no federal political career available for him. He performed so exceptionally horrible in his GOP response to Obama's SOTU in '09 that I doubt he has any real debate or campaign skills.

    Everyone who would be good has no interest in running. Despite all the people practically offering to perform fellatio, Chris Christie won't run. Mitch Daniels won't run. Tim Pawlenty won't achieve anything. Condo has no interest in public life anymore. Currently Rubio is the ambiguous favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Filmmaker View Post
    Bobby Jindal has absolutely no federal political career available for him. He performed so exceptionally horrible in his GOP response to Obama's SOTU in '09 that I doubt he has any real debate or campaign skills.
    He was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to coached, however, since then, he has perfectly educated his "views" on education and budget reform in his state. As I am a resident of said state, he publicly said that he would fulfill his second term completely.

    The notion that he also supported Rick Perry also shows me that he isn't ready for Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celsius View Post
    He was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to coached, however, since then, he has perfectly educated his "views" on education and budget reform in his state. As I am a resident of said state, he publicly said that he would fulfill his second term completely.

    The notion that he also supported Rick Perry also shows me that he isn't ready for Washington.
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    herman cain

    he ran a pretty sucessfull company, and has a way wit women so i hear

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    Herman Cain and Mitt Romney would be the ultimate corporate boot licking ticket. Wall street would be pleased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    herman cain

    he ran a pretty sucessfull company, and has a way wit women so i hear
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaric View Post
    Herman Cain and Mitt Romney would be the ultimate corporate boot licking ticket. Wall street would be pleased.
    It's not unusual for the nominee to pick the guy who ran second in the primaries, often because that person plays well to some other faction within the party. But I don't see it happening this time. A series of anyone-but-Romney candidates rose up, but they all flamed out. None of them really caught on. Santorum was probably the most plausible representative of the social conservative wing, but he still wouldn't be that big a draw. If Romney wants to pull in social sonservatives he would be better off with someone like Jindal.

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    Ron Paul?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Ron Paul?
    There is no chance that he would be asked or that he would accept. He would have to campaign for Romney's policies, and I don't see him being willing to do that. Rand Paul has a slim outside chance, but would probably refuse for much the same reason.

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    Too bad, I actually think his policies are quite fun.

    Anyway, who is Obama's partner? I think it is way too soon to conclude who would be Republican's vice president candidate without knowing Democrat's first.
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    Biden, the current VP, is not going anywhere.

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    this guy



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    Thank you, they're appreciated.

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    I'm hoping for Christie, Condie Rice (has she indicated any interest in returning to DC?), or Mario Rubio.

    If Christie is offered and accepts, it's a good bet he'll be in serious contention for the next Presidency win or lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcorps View Post
    I'm hoping for Christie, Condie Rice (has she indicated any interest in returning to DC?), or Mario Rubio.

    If Christie is offered and accepts, it's a good bet he'll be in serious contention for the next Presidency win or lose.
    Both Condie and Christie have gone on the record at least a dozen times denying any interest in pursuing a federal political career at this time. Condie even more so since she's going back to private sector stuff.
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    You cant have two people from the same region, then you lose support in the other ones.

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    what's wrong with dick cheney?

    isn't he for what most republicans are for anyhow?

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    Depends on whether the candidate would consider the VP slot as either the pinnacle of his political career or a suicide pact. A lot would like to position themselves for a 2016 run; Jeb's problem is that the Bush clan lacks the Kennedy romance or charm.
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