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    Syria shot down a Turkish jet on June 22, an official told the Hürriyet Daily News, adding that Damascus expressed sorrow over the incident and was cooperating with Ankara in search and rescue efforts for two Turkish pilots in Syrian territorial waters.

    The information, however, was not confirmed by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan late June 22 who said “I cannot say that it was shot down. I can’t say it before obtaining concrete information,” in a press conference he held just before a high level security summit. He also could not confirm whether Syria expressed sorrow or apologized for the incident, saying “I cannot confirm whether they have apologized of on what grounds they did so if they apologized.” Despite reports that two Turkish pilots ejected from the plane and they were safe, Erdoğan said “there was no information on the state of the pilots.” But he denied reports that Turkish pilots were taken hostage by Syrian forces. In his separate dialogue with journalists travelling with him, Erdoğan “If this is true, then there would be a great problem.”

    The incident could potentially add more tension to the already-tense relations between Turkey and Syria over Bashar al-Assad’s oppression against his own people.

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    It was not clear exactly how or where the incident occurred, but the military’s earlier statement said the connection with the Turkish F-4 aircraft was lost at 11:58 a.m., over the sea just off the southwest of the Hatay province, bordering Syria. The plane had taken off from the Erhaç airbase in Malatya, Central Anatolia at 10:00 a.m. It was also not clear what purpose the Turkish jet was serving in that region, but there are unconfirmed reports that it was carrying out a reconnaissance flight. It is not known whether the plane was shot down by a Syrian jet or by a surface to air missile.

    The NTV private news channel reported that the plane had crashed in Syrian territorial waters, but that there had been no violation of the Syrian border, citing unnamed military sources.

    According to information the Daily News gathered from official sources, the Turkish military launched a broad search and rescue operation to find the plane and the two pilots who ejected themselves and fell in the water.

    Sources said Syria had dispatched three guard boats to contribute to Turkish efforts, as the search was taking place in Syrian territorial waters. The first news that Syria shot the Turkish jet down came from local sources in Lebanon and Syria. Erdoğan said alongside with Turkey’s four guard boats Syria joined efforts with own vessels.

    A local witness has told RT Arabic that the plane crashed on Syrian territory and that the two pilots were captured.

    The craft was shot down as the Syrian air defense opened fire, according to Lebanon-based pan-Arab Al-Mayadeen TV. These reports are yet to be confirmed.

    Turkey has joined nations such as the United States in saying that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad should step down because of the uprising in his country that has killed thousands of people.

    Turkey also has set up refugee camps on its border for more than 32,000 Syrians who have fled the fighting.
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    This is an alarming development. It is not yet confirmed whether the fighter was shot down but Turkey certainly lost contact with it. If it was indeed shot, this raises some very serious questions. Was the Turkish aircraft inside the Syrian national airspace and if yes, what was it doing there?
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    Or if it wasn't shot down at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkLordSeth View Post
    Or if it wasn't shot down at all...
    I was in a rush to post this, I edited my post.
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    Oh good now we can invade Syria :p well to be serious, if that plane is shot by Syria, things can get nasty. There are already many supporting a war against Syria and this will only support their cause. lets see whats going to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevisenturk View Post
    Oh good now we can invade Syria :p well to be serious, if that plane is shot by Syria, things can get nasty. There are already many supporting a war against Syria and this will only support their cause. lets see whats going to happen
    I fear this might lead to escalation. Let's wait for more information.
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    Flash news from Turish TVs; from PM's office: Syria shot down the Turkish plane.
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    Yep it's confirmed by RTE. http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25360774

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    This could be very serious, especially if anything's happened to the pilots. Still missing at the moment, but if they are alive and confirm they were shot down - or if they're dead - Turkey could be pressed into action.

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    The Empire strikes back ? Or not ?
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    I hope we can solve this problem peacefully. I don't want any Turkish soldiers to die for nothing.

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    Offically final nail to Assads coffin after this day wont be surprise for me if we see FSA members with G3s and MG3s.
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    It is official now, Turkish jet was sot down by Syria, so PM's office informs after a critical two hours meeting with several ministers and general staff.

    Also, the office says there is no information about the pilots. And Turkey will act after all information gathered.

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    There have been various reports, none of them confirmed about the pilots either having been recovered in good health by Turkey or having been caught by Syria.
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    Erdogan says that boats are looking for the missing pilots but some say they have been taken prisoners by syria. either way they havent been found yet

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    Will Erdogan crush Asad en route to achieving his ultimate objective of liberating the West Bank (and maybe Egypt as well)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsunegari View Post
    Will Erdogan crush Asad en route to achieving his ultimate objective of liberating the West Bank (and maybe Egypt as well)?
    I sometimes fear that he got such crazy desires.

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    Long live the Osmanlı İmparatorluğu!

    To Assyria and Beyond!

    Better slaves of the Caliph-President than victims of Assad...
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    10 e-dollars that nothing happens.
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    Turkish test of Syrian air defences... defences pass with flying colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrotatos View Post
    10 e-dollars that nothing happens.
    Are you certain that you can afford that bet?

    Anti-greek joke aside, I do think this will lead to some serious response. However the circumstances are still unclear. Either way Assad is playing on a knifes edge now! The next few days are going to be tense!

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