Considering Buying...

[CaptainBirdseye]

Hi guys/gals

I am considering buyin Shogun 2. However, I have absolutely no knowledge on the time period or anything about Japan. Is it a good game anyway? What century is this set in? What is the arnament like? Is it a deep game?

Thanks.

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sengoku_period

[Alkaline Earth]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sengoku_period

My teacher always said Wikipedia should never be a reference .

Looks like you failed.

[universalmind]

My teacher always said Wikipedia should never be a reference .

Looks like you failed.

You can possibly reference Wikipedia's references though!

[vinh834]

My teacher always said Wikipedia should never be a reference .

Looks like you failed.

Anything online could be edited by anyone and may or may not contain errors. Not everything is checked thoroughly and you could only trust what you think, if you can trust yourself that is.

[Noif de Bodemloze]

If you like this era, where katanas, bows and some matchlocks.... carried by scary demon armor japanese. Then buy it! You'll not be disappointed.

[AgentGB]

If you buy Shogun 2, it should be dirt cheap, especially if you check amazon and want a hard copy, and well worth it, campaign and multiplayer are fantastic, and you can play agasint people with FOTS, in multiplayer, also there the Vs/Co op campaign you can do with friend. Well worth £8 of amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shogun-Total.../dp/B003PJ6C96

Shogun2 - Is a medieval japan, with the use of the first firearms of the period making appearance.

Or if you talking about FOTS, watch this trailer to the game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5BeJ7j1Fj4

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Total-War-Sa...gy_vg_h__img_b
Japans own version of the "civil war" but the new vs the old ways
again a great game, and for multiplayer too

[CaptainBirdseye]

Fall of the Samurai looks very good... Is it a completely seperate game from Shogun 2? 'm sorry, i'm clueless!

[Akaie]

Hi guys/gals

I am considering buyin Shogun 2. However, I have absolutely no knowledge on the time period or anything about Japan. Is it a good game anyway? What century is this set in? What is the arnament like? Is it a deep game?

Thanks.

Fall of the Samurai looks very good... Is it a completely seperate game from Shogun 2? 'm sorry, i'm clueless!

I don't think there's any need for anyone's opinion apart from your own. I figure the best way to get you the conclusions you're looking for is by noting a few things and subsequently asking you a few questions .

The title "Shogun 2" has become a more broad title for three single player campaigns.

First, you have the original campaign - it is awkwardly referred to as "shogun 2" in the game - which is based on the aforementioned sengoku period*.

You then have "Rise of the Samurai" which is a fairly cheap** representation of the Gempei War. A new scenario, some nice period-appropriate modelling, a significant amount of rehashing from the original campaign, given the price, and some content which was... outright dumped without repackaging . Where the original campaign would give you various cannons and guns, your ranged units are limited to bowmen in this campaign.

Then you have the more beefy "Fall of the Samurai", which is completely independent from the original Shogun 2 campaign*** based on the Boshin War. It makes quite a lot of stretches****, though I can't comment too much about it as I haven't gotten much gameplay out of it. Contrasting with Rise of the Samurai, melee is less significant at the start of the game, and arguably gets less appealing over time.

So, one thing that might help you decide is whether you like the idea of:
-melee-centric combat with only bowmen for ranged units,
-melee-centric combat with some gun and artillery-based units,
-arguably gun-centric combat (fairly similar to the Empire or Napoleon TWs), with that option to maintain a traditional melee-centered army.

Perhaps you could have a quick look at each of these periods and note what you like and dislike so myself and others can help you out some more .

*I had a look at the content and am satisfied that it is to a sufficient standard of quality.
**Though equally limited in scope.
***I'm not sure if you can buy Rise of the Samurai after buying Fall of the Samurai, though.
****For example, flattening out the pockets of fighting across the entirety of Japan.

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Oh. I reiterate this:

You should check out the demo on steam, see if you like it.

[DukeofBrunswick]

All I did, was pointing out that what you wrote was definition of ignorance

The actual definition of ignorance is :

the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.

Which is quite different from what you are accusing Humble of saying

Who?

I do not know about you, but what Humble wrote and what the deifition of ignorance actually is, are quite different.

[BullGod]

The actual definition of ignorance is :

Which is quite different from what you are accusing Humble of saying



I do not know about you, but what Humble wrote and what the deifition of ignorance actually is, are quite different.

"who?" was not all he wrote and all this I consider to be definition of ignorance in his rendition is in my first post in this thread.
And you do realize that I didn't mean that he wrote encyclopaedic definition of it? Although I believe it could be used as an example next to it.

[AgentGB]

If your on a budget, get FOTS, especially if you plan on playing multiplayer, you get the best of two worlds, good melee troops or ranged. But Shogun 2 is good if you want a more slack and hash warfare, but FOTS has it all, and is worth getting before shogun 2 imo, just get shogun 2 at a later date, when a steam sale happens, both good games, but FOTS just seems to have a bit more, and yeah, its standalone

btw here is the actual trailer, was just pulling yur leg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3-VkbRSKQ

[nameless]

DON'T.

They say that if you do. You lose your soul!

In any case buy FOTS. It's got both Samurai AND guns in it. Shogun 2 just has the samurai and useless muskets.

[deathmarch]

how can people not know about Samurai's and ninjas? I have one name for you Akira Kurosawa

[Humble Warrior]

how can people not know about Samurai's and ninjas? I have one name for you Akira Kurosawa

Who?

The world is a big place (especially on the net). Not everyone knows what everyone thinks everyone should know.

[BullGod]

I have one name for you Akira Kurosawa

Who?

The world is a big place (especially on the net). Not everyone knows what everyone thinks everyone should know.

A definition of ignorance.

[universalmind]

A definition of ignorance.

not really

[BullGod]

not really

Yes, really.
Ignorance (or witlessness) is a state of being uninformed (lack of knowledge).

Sure there is too much knowledge nowdays to fully ebrace it for an average human being (it was much easier for Da Vinci to be a polymath than it is today for us). But it doesn't mean you should make excuses. This is the worst kind of ignorance: Not knowing and proud of it.

[Erwin Rommel]

A definition of ignorance.

Finally. Somebody has seen through the "humble"/ultimate purveyor of whats atmospheric/historical or not, who appears to not even now BASIC jidaigeki.

[bbad89]

Depends on if you can deal with terrible graphics and bugs long enough to get to the fun bit. I swear since FotS, the base Shogun 2 game has gone downhill.