My units are retarded?

[Korak_Karnar]

That or my dwarfs came to the battle drunk.

For some reason, I keep having this odd thing happening where my units simply don't do what I tell them. For instance, sometimes I'll have mortars, click to tell them to attack, and the mortar teams will turn around a couple times and then just stop. I've lost a couple sieges to this as I really need that mortar fire, and my crews just aren't cooperating.
Happened again just now when I was playing a random skirmish. I had 4 units of thunderers versus a buncha night goblins. For some reason while the first line of thunderers was meatshielding, on the second row only a couple units would intermittently fire, the third row refused to fire at all, and the fourth unit straight up turned around the other way, putting their backs to the enemy, and also refused to fire.

Has anyone else encountered this? Is it me? Is it a graphical glitch? Computer problems? Are my units drunk?

I'd love to know.

[Reiksfart]

Line of sight issues is what is causing these problems. The coding for some artillery and missile units is not optimal, so even if they appear to have line of site and should be able to fire, the game engine will not because of the way they have been coded for the mod.

[Korak_Karnar]

Is there any way to fix that or just sort of trial and error find the right ways to place units so they don't spaz out?

[Reiksfart]

Yes there is a way to fix it all in the descr_projectiles file, you need to find the right velocities and angles. My submod improves it all significantly, but still unreleased.

[zax]

Yes there is a way to fix it all in the descr_projectiles file, you need to find the right velocities and angles. My submod improves it all significantly, but still unreleased.

I bet hunred of cookies that u will never release it.

[Reiksfart]

I bet hunred of cookies that u will never release it.

I'll take up that bet. Legally binding bet where you will have to send me several boxes of quality cookies.

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Handgunners for me now are no doubt the best all round missile units in every situation. Always take 3 or 4 when fighting as the Empire or Dwarves.

[SinerAthin]

Mortars aren't half as bad as Handgunners... dear god >.<

When they actually do fire, they're GREAT! ... but most of the time, they shuffle mindlessly around, walk into each other, or just stare into empty air doing nothing.
And then often just a few of them fire, while the rest of them just stand around like muppets.

I swear, those guys are some of the most fearless dudes I've ever seen.

When a giant horde of nobz comes charging down against them, what happens?
Soldier: "Sir, shouldn't we open fire?"
Officer: "No, we need to wait for Jimmy first."
*10 seconds later, Jimmy comes legging behind and finds his position in the line.*
Jimmy: "Ready, sir!"
Officer: "Good, now say, shall we start turning towards the general direction of the enemy?"
Soldier: "Where?" *Turns around looking*
Officer: "There." *Points ahead of them*
Soldier: "Here? I don't see them." *Turns around looking sideways and behind*
*15 seconds and 120 casualties later, they finally manage to shuffle into position*
Soldier: "Oh, now I see them!"
Officer: "Exactly, so, now Toby will be the first to fire!"
Concerned Soldier: "But shouldn't we all fire at the same time for our salvo to be effective?"
Officer: "Shush, such nonsense. In this core we take turns to fire, no grubby itching trigger fingers to steal all the kills. Now, Toby, you fire first!"
Toby: "Yay." *Fires off shot in general direction and misses the incoming green horde.
Officer: "Alright, now Daniels, it's your turn to,-"
*WROOOM*
*Gets ploughed down by the green horde.*

[Korak_Karnar]

You had me rofl'ing at that little scripted exchange. That's almost verbatim what happens to me.

I've also had catapults push their siege engines into the enemy forces like some perverse battering ram. I think at that point I was just kind of sitting in my chair staring dumbly at my screen in shock. Then again, it was a Screaming Skull Catapult, so fearless and not too bright are probably to be expected.

[cenkiss]

Gunners may not fire when there are other friendly units just in front of them.That is not an error.

[SinerAthin]

Gunners may not fire when there are other friendly units just in front of them.That is not an error.

I know, I'm not complaining about that

I'm more annoyed by when I place them behind or next to the enemy battleline, and with a clear line of sight into the enemy positions, they mindless continue to shufftle, gawk and stupid around ...

[smoesville]

I think that's actually a vanilla problem, they always used to screw around then. Gunners were always a bit hit and miss (or miss and miss and then die horribly).

[Lord Baal]

That or my dwarfs came to the battle drunk.

Is there another way to go to battle?

[Korak_Karnar]

Is there another way to go to battle?

Not for dwarfs. :p

[SinerAthin]

It's "Dwarf" and "Dwarves", people!

Repeat after me:

"A Dwarf walked to a bar, and met some other Dwarves, and they had a great time. And one of the Dwarves got into a fight with an Elf, and the Dwarf beat him senseless and soon all the Elves joined in, and then a great brawl between the Dwarves and the Elves ensued!"

[Marcus Tullius Cicero]

Actually it is either, and GW uses Dwarfs - so that is what I will use

[smoesville]

"Dwarves" were created by tolkien to differentiate from RL dwarfs though i prefer it when referring to any fantasy dwarven race.

[SinerAthin]

"Dwarfs" just sounds too anti-grammar, so I think I'll stick to Dwarves either way, as they sound much more fluent and doesn't force me to bend any rules

[cenkiss]

Actually dwarfs was the correct one and widely used.

[The Holy Pilgrim]

Hey hey, remember what the Elder Beards said?

Be you Dwarf or Dwarf, we do not fight amongst our brethren unlike those pansy elves!

Now, let's go kill us some Greenskins, eh?