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    well, nice idea. where was the button placed? did the uniform differ in colour from the regular tommie uniform?
    i´ll make a "irish division" unit, limited of course and only recruitable in ireland itself.
    how many of them where in service(needed for unit limit)?
    did they have a high morale (i dont think so cuz of the easter rising)?
    tell me everything that could be important for campaign or battle depiction of this unit

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    Connaught
    The Connaught Rangers had a harp as their cap badge.They were stationed Ferzeopre, India and Galway, Ireland at the start of the war, but fought in Gallipoli, France, Flanders, Mesopotamia, Palestine, and they fought against Irish rebels during and after the Easter Rising.2500 Connaught Rangers were killed during WW1.Their marching song "It's A Long Way To Tipperary" became famous. On 28th June 1920 five men from C company of the 1st Battlaion at Wellington Barracks Jalandhar, Punjab,India against the Martial Law in Ireland, the protesters were soon joined by more Connaught Rangers(not all Irish)declaring they would not return to duty until British forces left Ireland.A group of men stormed the armoury but were held back by the loyal guard who killed two of the men.Within days the men who rebelled surrendered to loyal troops.One man was sentenced to death,18 were sentenced to life,and 59 were sentenced to 15 years.Two men were killed during the uprising, one was executed and one (a Englishman)died in prison. The last soldier to be be executed for mutiny in the British Army(Private James Daly) was from the Connaught Rangers.The Connaught Rangers were disbanded in 1922 when Ireland became a Free State.
    Connaught Cap Badge

    10th(Irish)Division
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    10th Cap Badge
    The 10th(Irish)Division was one of the first Kitchener's New Army K1 Army Group divisions formed, formedon the 21st of August 1914.They wore the standard British Army uniform but with a harp cap badge and a green rectangle shoulder patch.The 10th Division was sent to Gallipoli, in 1915 they were sent to Salonika where they stayed for two years.In September 1917 the division moved to Eygpt and fought in the Third Battle of Gaza.After the German Spring Offensive 10 divisions were moved to France the remainder spent the rest of the war in Palestine.Due to heavy losses many of the men in the 10th were not Irish.Widespread malaria and heavy casualties caused the 10th Division to be declared unfit for action and it was disbanded in 1919. 9363 men from the 10th(Irish) Division were killed, wounded or went missing.

    16th(Irish)Divison
    Division Insignia
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    The 16th(Irish)Division was voluntary division initially raised in September 1914.In December 1915, the division moved to France, joining the British Expenditionary Force, and spent most of the First World War on the Western Front.Following heavy losses in Somme, Ypres,Passchendaele and being practically wiped during the German Spring Offensive and a retreat during Operation Michael.The Conscription Crisis of 1918 in Ireland meant fewer Irish recruits could be raised and by the end of the war the 16th contained 5 English Battalions, 2 Scottish Battalions,and 1 Welsh Battalions.The only remaining orignal Battalion left was the 5th Royal Irish Fusiliers.The 16th(Irish) suffered 28,398 casualties.The 16th(Irish)wore the standard British uniform with a shamrock shoulder patch and a harp cap badge.

    36th(Ulster)Division
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    The 36th(Ulster)Division was mostly made up of Ulster Volunteer Force(a militia formed to block Home Rule Ireland)made up of 16 Battalions.It served on the Western Front.The 36th fought at the Battle of Cambrai, Battle of Messines, Battle of the Somme(1916),Battle of Ypres(1917),Battle of Ypres(1918),and Battle of Courtrai(1918).The 36th(Ulster) suffered 32,186 casualties.The 36th wore the standard British uniform with a Red Hand of Ulster insignia and a harp cap badge.The 36th(Ulster)was disbanded in 1919 but some of the battalions are now apart of the Royal Irish Regiment.

    Ireland during WW1
    During the 1st World War 200,600 Irishman fought in the war in all theaters. Both Catholics and Protestants, Unionists and Nationalists,all voluenteers fought. Just under 30,000 Irishmen died.A small radical group of nationalists took the war as an opportunity of the war to launch a armed rebellion against British rule(Easter Rising).But were defeated by the British Army(including Irish Divisions).Originanly the public were hostile to the rebels(in certain areas rebels had physical confrontations with civilians who tried to retake buildings) due to the great deal of death and destruction caused by the rebellion.After the surrender the rebels were hissed at, pelleted with rubbish, and called "murders" and "stravers of the poor" and in some cases rebels were saved from angry civilians by British soldiers.But the British descision to execute the leaders caused a large amount of the population to change public opinion of the rebels.

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    I wonder if in that case, there should be a unit for the Black and Tans as well.... kinda out of place to portray as they werent a military unit persay... but still....

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    Black and Tans were used from 1920 to 1921.

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    did they have a high morale (i dont think so cuz of the easter rising)?
    I don't think so, because their comrades were murdered by the brits(except the loyalists from ulster)


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    .I think the the 36th(Ulster) should have really high morale.
    .The Connaught Rangers should have low morale since they were involved in a mutiny ,even though they had no problem fighting against rebels during the Easter Rising.
    .The 10th(Irish) should have low morale since by the end of the war they were declared unfit for action.
    .The 16th(Irish) should have low since by the end of the war there was only one Irish battalion left.

    I don't think the Easter Rising effected the morale of the Irish divisions very much because it was only after the Easter Rising that the rebels became martyrs when their leaders were executed, and alot of the men who fought men were from Irish Divisions.

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    great work!
    it seems that i´ve to make 4 new units...
    the shoulder patches convinced me

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    Why you need to make 4 new units?

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    Thanks here's some pictures to help you.

    A officer from Connaught Rangers.

    Connaught Rangers in India


    10th(Irish) Band

    A medic from the 16th (shamrock shoulder patch)

    Found in personal items of Pvt James Cotter (survivors of the 6th Battalion Royal Irish after Battle of Ginchy)

    Men from 36th(Ulster)
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    A soldier from 10th(Irish)

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    Default Re: NEW UNITS SUGGESTION Thread!

    4 units:
    .The 36th(Ulster) should have really high morale.
    .The Connaught Rangers should have low morale since they were involved in a mutiny ,even though they had no problem fighting against rebels during the Easter Rising.
    .The 10th(Irish) should have low morale since by the end of the war they were declared unfit for action.
    .The 16th(Irish) should have low since by the end of the war there was only one Irish battalion left.

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    Actually you dont need them anyways, you just need a generic unit named "Royal Irish". These are divisions which is up to the player if they will be anything worthwhile in the game. It wouldnt make any sense making independant divisions or smaller units, when at the moment you create units based on entire corps and army groups.

    To make it simple: You train 5-6 units of Sepoys. Now which one is gonna get decorated is up to the player, not some historical account. Ergo, you only need to make a royal Irish unit with limit and thats it.

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    well, the cheap opinion...
    so wild priest, if we did so, what branches and hat decoration would you suggest as most universial for irish regiments?

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    Probably a harp cap badge and a shamrock shoulder patch.

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    Also some of Irish divisions wore a blue diamond on the back of their helmet and veterans of Gallipolli had a red triangle shoulder patch like this:

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    Default Re: NEW UNITS SUGGESTION Thread!

    i think a shamrock and a cap badge is enough...
    why did they wear blue diamonds?

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    Well only one battalion (Royal Dublin Fusiliers) wore the blue diamond on the back of their helmet and that was they could be easily identified from other British battalions since all British uniforms were the same each British battalion had a different mark so they could be identified.

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    ah, so only shamrock and cap badge! the late troops(brodie helmet) will only have the shamrock

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    http://aur.home.xs4all.nl/layout/fra...chuniforms.htm
    Some Dutch Uniforms, might help ya finding the right colours etc.

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