Spartans EDU stats

**mdibatti** · June 27, 2006, 07:44 AM

I was messing around with the EDU file and noticed that Spartans have a primary weapon stat of "blade" instead of "simple". Why the change? Just trying to understand....thanks!

**DARTH VADER** · July 04, 2006, 11:36 AM

Blade = an attribute that makes a weapon more powerful and effective.
Try using this to arrows and shoot some elephants...they will die in secs!

**mdibatti** · July 06, 2006, 10:46 AM

Cool. Thanks for answering Darth.

**jw1089** · July 06, 2006, 01:18 PM

would adding the blade attribute to all archers be more realistic, because i notice that when i use archers to attack enemy infantry units in their front, after many volleys, only 3 or 4 have died

**CrazedClown** · July 06, 2006, 01:29 PM

people are going to dissagree with me of course,
but...

arrows shouldn't be crazy effective because at the time they didnt do the bulk of the killing. Archers a very bad for morale and they do suck losing guys with no chance of fighting back but they didnt slaughter by the thousands at one time.

**jw1089** · July 06, 2006, 05:26 PM

well, not for melee, but just for the arrow attack

**DARTH VADER** · July 07, 2006, 11:40 AM

Should not be used by archers at all, only in fantasy mods maybe (For elven super units with few men maybe)
The archers are just fine in DM...in few mods archers are balanced so well.

**jw1089** · July 07, 2006, 08:52 PM

alright then. its just frustrating when you fire volley after volley of arroes ot an infantry unit and so few die

**Xiaodun** · July 08, 2006, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by jw1089

alright then. its just frustrating when you fire volley after volley of arroes ot an infantry unit and so few die

You sure you aren't shooting at a phalanx from the front? Just shoot their rear or flanks (or from a great height) and you'll see them fall by the dozens.

**joorik** · July 08, 2006, 08:13 AM

Depends on archers and targets. 4 groups of +3 attack and nice exp archers can do quite some damage to slow moving phalanxes. Remember playing as Egyptians in RTW 1.0 or so... I used only chariot archers in the desert to defend agains romans in the desert and a few cavalary units to run down fleeing enemy. Usually fights ended with 0 enemy survivors and me losing 0 men. Ofcourse those were mounted archers which meant that infantry couldnt hurt them but they still managed to shoot everyone down using simply bows.

**jw1089** · July 08, 2006, 10:58 AM

thats what i was doing. it just seems like more ppl should die when u shoot them from the front

**Vladie37** · July 16, 2006, 08:36 AM

In terms of gameplay balance, the archers are just about right.

It's a little annoying when you launch massive volleys against enemies with limited kills,but overall balance has to be kept in mind.

The archers in the incarnation of RTR I played a while back were so effective,it altered the entire gameplay balance.Horse archers would decimate anything,foot archers in bulk would own any field.

I recall one of my first encounters against RTR archers. I was playing as the Germanics, and sent some shirtless maniacs charging towards the enemy. 1 volley of arrows killed enough of my charging horde to start a mass route.

Realistic? Maybe. Balanced and fun? Not so much.
Archers can be very effective in DarthMod,but thier not universial meat grinders. They're great on walls,against light infantry and horse, and they chew up slingers and peltasts at range easily. They're also very effective when not shooting at the enemy head on.

**nightwar** · July 16, 2006, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Vladie37

In terms of gameplay balance, the archers are just about right.

It's a little annoying when you launch massive volleys against enemies with limited kills,but overall balance has to be kept in mind.

The archers in the incarnation of RTR I played a while back were so effective,it altered the entire gameplay balance.Horse archers would decimate anything,foot archers in bulk would own any field.

I recall one of my first encounters against RTR archers. I was playing as the Germanics, and sent some shirtless maniacs charging towards the enemy. 1 volley of arrows killed enough of my charging horde to start a mass route.

Realistic? Maybe. Balanced and fun? Not so much.
Archers can be very effective in DarthMod,but thier not universial meat grinders. They're great on walls,against light infantry and horse, and they chew up slingers and peltasts at range easily. They're also very effective when not shooting at the enemy head on.

Well the latest Version of RTR archer's were nerfed good. so now there as effective as Darth's

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