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    I just found this interesting blog post from video game designer and writer John Scalzi. Here's his concept, if life in America (and the Western world) was a video game, then being a straight white male would be considered "super easy mode." His point is that despite decades of legislation to level the playing field, white males still enjoy significant privileges over every other race. Sure, wealth, hard work, intelligence and talent all play a role. But if you compare two people of similar socio-economic backgrounds, the straight white male will have an edge. He won't be paid less for doing the same exact work like he would if he were a white woman, he's less likely to be bullied or physically attacked for being gay, and he doesn't have to worry about being unfairly targeted by police like he would playing a poor Black character.


    PLEASE NOTE - I'm not saying I believe everything in this article. I just found the concept fascinating.

    From the post:

    http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/1...ting-there-is/


    I’ve been thinking of a way to explain to straight white men how life works for them, without invoking the dreaded word “privilege,” to which they react like vampires being fed a garlic tart at high noon. It’s not that the word “privilege” is incorrect, it’s that it’s not their word. When confronted with “privilege,” they fiddle with the word itself, and haul out the dictionaries and find every possible way to talk about the word but not any of the things the word signifies.

    So, the challenge: how to get across the ideas bound up in the word “privilege,” in a way that your average straight white man will get, without freaking out about it?

    Being a white guy who likes women, here’s how I would do it:

    Dudes. Imagine life here in the US — or indeed, pretty much anywhere in the Western world — is a massive role playing game, like World of Warcraft except appallingly mundane, where most quests involve the acquisition of money, cell phones and donuts, although not always at the same time. Let’s call it The Real World. You have installed The Real World on your computer and are about to start playing, but first you go to the settings tab to bind your keys, fiddle with your defaults, and choose the difficulty setting for the game. Got it?

    Okay: In the role playing game known as The Real World, “Straight White Male” is the lowest difficulty setting there is.

    This means that the default behaviors for almost all the non-player characters in the game are easier on you than they would be otherwise. The default barriers for completions of quests are lower. Your leveling-up thresholds come more quickly. You automatically gain entry to some parts of the map that others have to work for. The game is easier to play, automatically, and when you need help, by default it’s easier to get.

    Now, once you’ve selected the “Straight White Male” difficulty setting, you still have to create a character, and how many points you get to start — and how they are apportioned — will make a difference. Initially the computer will tell you how many points you get and how they are divided up. If you start with 25 points, and your dump stat is wealth, well, then you may be kind of screwed. If you start with 250 points and your dump stat is charisma, well, then you’re probably fine. Be aware the computer makes it difficult to start with more than 30 points; people on higher difficulty settings generally start with even fewer than that.

    As the game progresses, your goal is to gain points, apportion them wisely, and level up. If you start with fewer points and fewer of them in critical stat categories, or choose poorly regarding the skills you decide to level up on, then the game will still be difficult for you. But because you’re playing on the “Straight White Male” setting, gaining points and leveling up will still by default be easier, all other things being equal, than for another player using a higher difficulty setting.

    Likewise, it’s certainly possible someone playing at a higher difficulty setting is progressing more quickly than you are, because they had more points initially given to them by the computer and/or their highest stats are wealth, intelligence and constitution and/or simply because they play the game better than you do. It doesn’t change the fact you are still playing on the lowest difficulty setting.

    You can lose playing on the lowest difficulty setting. The lowest difficulty setting is still the easiest setting to win on. The player who plays on the “Gay Minority Female” setting? Hardcore.
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    What a crock of .

    This is where statistics and interpretation of statistics into blase statements gets offensive. If I was a youth worker I wonder how I'd explain this to a young white glasweigan male who comes from a welfare dependant heroin addicted family, he has about as much chance at success as any black male. In fact I suspect substantially less than most. I would imagine I could find similar american examples.

    If anything in this day and age one constant we can find is that rich and educated leads to more educated in the right places which equals more wealth again and that is true regardless of race.

    I find to much crappy generalisation without enough substantive pointmaking to remotely enjoy this article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    What a crock of .

    This is where statistics and interpretation of statistics into blase statements gets offensive. If I was a youth worker I wonder how I'd explain this to a young white glasweigan male who comes from a welfare dependant heroin addicted family, he has about as much chance at success as any black male. In fact I suspect substantially less than most. I would imagine I could find similar american examples.

    If anything in this day and age one constant we can find is that rich and educated leads to more educated in the right places which equals more wealth again and that is true regardless of race.

    I find to much crappy generalisation without enough substantive pointmaking to remotely enjoy this article.
    Yep. Leave it to the left to continually spit in the face of judging a man based on character not race. Hey everyone, lets be accepting and push racism to the past...but white people get it easy. The ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    What a crock of .
    Aye.

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    Default Re: If life were a game, straight white male would be easy mode

    Yes...Because there are no straight white men who live on the streets at all.
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    Default Re: If life were a game, straight white male would be easy mode

    Denny, btw I'm not saying I support everything in the article. But let's take a look at drug use in America for example. The percentage of drug users who are white and black are about the same, yet there is a far larger percentage of nonviolent black drug offenders in prison than whites. The life of the white "meth baby" and the black "crack baby" are both probably going to suck, but the white guy still has a slight advantage to avoid prison and get drug treatment instead, statistically speaking.

    I'd also say that some of the government research I've been reading about pay inequality among the sexes makes me think that unequal pay for women is real and cannot be simply explained away by differences in kinds of occupation, time taken off to raise children, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count of Montesano View Post
    Denny, btw I'm not saying I support everything in the article. But let's take a look at drug use in America for example. The percentage of drug users who are white and black are about the same, yet there is a far larger percentage of nonviolent black drug offenders in prison than whites. The life of the white "meth baby" and the black "crack baby" are both probably going to suck, but the white guy still has a slight advantage to avoid prison and get drug treatment instead, statistically speaking.

    I'd also say that some of the government research I've been reading about pay inequality among the sexes makes me think that unequal pay for women is real and cannot be simply explained away by differences in kinds of occupation, time taken off to raise children, etc.

    http://www.shfwire.com/node/4856
    You know it is more pronounced for the USA but you said the whole western world, now go look at Scotland and tell me it is the case. Now talking stats would the same be true state to state? No of course not since there are quite a lot of states where there aren't as many black people in a big way. So to the poor whites in those areas do you think these stats matter a damn?

    In fact just find one white person that has had a real crappy time of it like the example I mentioned (real common in glasgow it wouldn't be hard to find) and ask him if these stats matter a damn. They don't. The whole thing about saying its better to be white might actually mean something but on such a level as to be meaningless. It is poverty and education (in some cases racism) that matters. Address poverty, address education and in Americas case address racism (well on the way to being done I'd say) address the war on drugs and it all goes away.

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    Women ought to be paid less and men more because men have a cultural role of paying for things women want.

    Shouldn't we balance the situation out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    Women ought to be paid less and men more because men have a cultural role of paying for things women want.
    LOL, that is funny and while I still support bridging the pay gap, you got a chuckle out of me.

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    I thinks that what it is. He may have a point in certain geographically specific areas, there may well be a genuine valid discussion in there somewhere but it is buried deep within horrible intellectual laziness that it would seem almost insulting to start such a serious discussion with such a mess.

    Not getting at you, I know you are a good guy but this is a crappy start to a topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    I thinks that what it is. He may have a point in certain geographically specific areas, there may well be a genuine valid discussion in there somewhere but it is buried deep within horrible intellectual laziness that it would seem almost insulting to start such a serious discussion with such a mess.

    Not getting at you, I know you are a good guy but this is a crappy start to a topic.
    No offense taken at all Denny. I've added a caveat at the top to say that I have reservations about the article, even if I find some of the concepts fascinating. I'll also say that I first saw this on another gaming forum where the main attitude is if you disagree with the writer, then you're just blind to your own white privilege. I don't know what it's like to be gay/lesbian, or Black, or a woman. I do know that I don't have to worry so much about being beaten or raped, or being called a racial slur. It would be helpful of course to know how often racial incidents still happen, but I have to imagine they're not entirely infrequent.

    So, as you can see I'm in a tough situation. I don't want to appear insensitive to the real travails of women, the LGBT community and minorities, but on the other hand I'm wondering if this is a case where anyone who says the emperor has no clothes is going to be called a Holocaust denier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count of Montesano View Post
    No offense taken at all Denny. I've added a caveat at the top to say that I have reservations about the article, even if I find some of the concepts fascinating. I'll also say that I first saw this on another gaming forum where the main attitude is if you disagree with the writer, then you're just blind to your own white privilege.
    Wow that is some crazy reactionary stereotyping. I wonder if they realise that this attitude is basically part of the problem that lies at the root of many of the problems that underpin the more serious aspects of this topic. Unable to handle criticism and resorting to its because of a race thing...isn't that basically what happens to black people in a court of law kind of thing?

    I don't know what it's like to be gay/lesbian, or Black, or a woman. I do know that I don't have to worry so much about being beaten or raped, or being called a racial slur. It would be helpful of course to know how often racial incidents still happen, but I have to imagine they're not entirely infrequent.
    Well homophobia isn't something limited by race or geography or even unfortunately education or privilege. If anything in some ways it is easier to be gay in poverty without ambition than to be successful and gay and run into huge glass walls and glass ceilings. I can't even imagine being in serious danger of becoming a British King or Queen and trying to come out, can you?

    Racism is definitely an issue still, more so in the USA than here but I mean up where I live and probably everywhere in a more northern place there is very little in the way of a black population and the asian populations around Newcastle are rather wealthy. The people who will attack you and be attacked are more likely to be white in both cases and so are the poverty stricken, welfare dependants and drug addicts.

    The common theme that does run through it is poverty and education and inclination to take opportunities related to that and accessibility. If there are poor minorities developing it is because of immigration and it is just a fact that immigrants are less likely to integrate, be aware of aid available and raise children that will have all the opportunities. That isn't because of their race its because its a troubled reality with asylum seeking, it throws a whole ton of road blocks in your path and you are going to stumble over some of them no matter how much the governments try to help.


    So, as you can see I'm in a tough situation. I don't want to appear insensitive to the real travails of women, the LGBT community and minorities, but on the other hand I'm wondering if this is a case where anyone who says the emperor has no clothes is going to be called a Holocaust denier.
    Not at all of course these problems exist. BUT and this is a big but, arguments that use statistics incorrectly (99% of them) and focus on generalisations goes nowhere. There is a homophobia problem, a racism problem, a poverty problem, a minority problem and quite a few others if there is a sharp focus on these within an appropriate context then I think people are very receptive.

    Rushed this response off a little. Missus has demanded I get off the PC I'm afraid. Back later.

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    I would say the opposite.

    Being white mean that I am more likely to start in "easy mode" (rich parents etc). But due to affirmative action it is much easier for an immigrant to "win" IF they are born in a beneficial socio-economic group.

    And I won't even get into the whole female debate. Right now I am just going to seal that kind of worms with a short description of my life right now. "My wifes dream is to buy a nice house in the country side, my dream is to be able to afford a nice house in the country side".

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    The game developer is also a racist because he is either claiming Asians are inherently superior or he's forgetting about them completely. Because right now they seem to beat white males in America when it comes to success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adar View Post
    I would say the opposite.

    Being white mean that I am more likely to start in "easy mode" (rich parents etc). But due to affirmative action it is much easier for an immigrant to "win" IF they are born in a beneficial socio-economic group.

    And I won't even get into the whole female debate. Right now I am just going to seal that kind of worms with a short description of my life right now. "My wifes dream is to buy a nice house in the country side, my dream is to be able to afford a nice house in the country side".

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    The game developer is also a racist because he is either claiming Asians are inherently superior or he's forgetting about them completely. Because right now they seem to beat white males in America when it comes to success.
    My impression is white males still have easier than asia male. 10% less grind for the same amount of experience/credit!

    Plenty other link, but as usual wiki is the easiest
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_..._United_States
    Part of the explanation for asians’ higher wages is their greater-than-average educational attainment: in the 1990s, 23.3 percent of the total U.S. male population had at least a college degree, while 48.7 percent of Asian Indian men, 41.6 percent of Filipino men, and 35 percent of Chinese men had at least a college degree.[4] The higher educational attainment of asians masks the fact that a wage gap exists between asians and whites of the same occupations. Whites earn more than asians in almost all occupational categories when other factors are controlled.[4] However, the gap is decreasing, as asians are gaining more income from their education status and now have wages that are 92 percent of those of whites in comparable jobs.[4]

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    Default Re: If life were a game, straight white male would be easy mode

    I'm not going to comment on the message, but the concept of using a video-game is brilliant. It's something our generation can instantly relate to. Metaphors such as video-games need to be much more exploited.

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    This is why I always play as Redguard in Skyrim.
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    It's funny, this thread reminded me of a video from some nutjob I saw a couple months ago, which takes the opposite view. I managed to dig it up again...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ongalrKdJWg&t=1m19s

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    That’s ridiculous. A straight white male, while he may happen to be richer more often, does not have any inherent advantages under the law. You’re pointing out correlations with race, sex, and sexual orientation and saying that because they exist, racism, sexism, and sexual orientation discrimination are so prevalent in the law that it actively pushes groups of people down.

    Apparently these ideas have never occurred to you:
    Black people are poor due to the after-effects of sharecropping and slavery, in which they couldn’t raise their incomes and the intelligent or active slaves were probably killed for making mischief and whatnot.
    Most other ethnicities showed up to the USA poor, allowing the somewhat richer white people in America already to make cash off them as they did the Irish.
    Women often work in the home (pushing down the average wage, because housewives’ wages are zero, essentially), and in general women are new to the workforce, meaning lower pay.
    Gay men being particularly poor? Surely you jest.
    And lesbians? Pretty much no one really hates lesbians, ever notice that? Homos are always guys for some reason.

    That doesn’t mean you get magic treatment because you are a straight white male.

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    There are heaps of poor white people in the US. There are no special college places designated for poor white people. There is no affirmative action program for white people born in a trailer park. People go on abour whites having all the power and the wealth, and in the US especially the south go see the white folks living in trailers and ask them to tell you much power they have as the 'white ruling class'. Power is politically based or econonically based, its not race based. Otherwise Obama would not be President and Colin Powell wouldnt have been chairman of the joint chiefs and defence secretary.
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    In my opinion, affirmative action should just apply to people under a certain income.

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