Building a Monarch Computer from Scratch

[Ahiga]

Though I have the gist of what I want to be aiming for, I'm pretty much in the blank as to the details of this:

I know that I want a Dual-core processor, but I don't know if this can be done on an AMD system. I'm assuming AMD 64 X2 is the equvilanet of a dual core Intel, but I may be wrong. I also don't know the specific AMD I want, but It does need to be top of the line.

I know I need at least 2 gigs, but not what company-developed gig, and if I should go for 3 or 4 (I think I should, just because going for 2 gigs when games were not even requiring 256 megabyte ram back in 2003 was a smart move).

I know I need a dual-system of Geforce, but not what card it should be, or if it should be AGP, PCI, or something else

In short, this would be a system that is top of the line today and tomorrow, and should be able to run game's exceptionally well for at least a year or two, especially in preparation for the big names comming out, such as Age of Conan, that sequel to a shooter whose name i forget but will be set with us, north korea, and aliens..I want a system that is ultra-high for as long as possible, to ward off the need of upgrading. Something to let me run oblivion on max, MTWII on max, and other up and comming games on max. The price range would be 2000 to the low 4000s.


All in all, the real issues before I go onto the cooling system (I Might go and get a liquid coolant) are with Motherboard and CPU, RAM and Videocard, and potentially also hard drive. There are a few other issues (Regarding the case and the cooling), but it's those which have caught me up the most, especially which of these custom rigs to base mine on: The Monarch Furia 2 (socket AM2) Custom desktop, or the Monarch Furia (939 64/FX/X2) custom desktop. Which of these two is the better option for gaming, and for the future?

This week I'll be putting together systems on Monarch's site: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Code=allcustom and be comming back to recieve opinions on the system, but I could use some advice before I go at it. What's the top of the line videocard, cpu, motherboard, ram, and so on, and what will have me cruising for at least a year, better if it's two.

[Locky]

Though I have the gist of what I want to be aiming for, I'm pretty much in the blank as to the details of this:

I know that I want a Dual-core processor, but I don't know if this can be done on an AMD system. I'm assuming AMD 64 X2 is the equvilanet of a dual core Intel, but I may be wrong. I also don't know the specific AMD I want, but It does need to be top of the line.

I know I need at least 2 gigs, but not what company-developed gig, and if I should go for 3 or 4 (I think I should, just because going for 2 gigs when games were not even requiring 256 megabyte ram back in 2003 was a smart move).

I know I need a dual-system of Geforce, but not what card it should be, or if it should be AGP, PCI, or something else

In short, this would be a system that is top of the line today and tomorrow, and should be able to run game's exceptionally well for at least a year or two, especially in preparation for the big names comming out, such as Age of Conan, that sequel to a shooter whose name i forget but will be set with us, north korea, and aliens..I want a system that is ultra-high for as long as possible, to ward off the need of upgrading. Something to let me run oblivion on max, MTWII on max, and other up and comming games on max. The price range would be 2000 to the low 4000s.


All in all, the real issues before I go onto the cooling system (I Might go and get a liquid coolant) are with Motherboard and CPU, RAM and Videocard, and potentially also hard drive. There are a few other issues (Regarding the case and the cooling), but it's those which have caught me up the most, especially which of these custom rigs to base mine on: The Monarch Furia 2 (socket AM2) Custom desktop, or the Monarch Furia (939 64/FX/X2) custom desktop.

This week I'll be putting together systems on Monarch's site: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Code=allcustom and be comming back to recieve opinions on the system, but I could use some advice before I go at it. What's the top of the line videocard, cpu, motherboard, ram, and so on, and what will have me cruising for at least a year, better if it's two.

AMD FX 64's are dual core i believe, they're the fastest processor. I think the X2's are too. Also make sure the L2 cache is at least 1 mb, aswell. Assuming you want dual video cards, GT 7800's, will probably do fine, PCI-E is what you'll need. As for ram DDR-2 is the best, but i think they're realesing DDR-3 soon. And i wouldn't bother with liquid cooling unless you intend to overclock.

[Ahiga]

What do you mean by l2 Cache? And I went PCI-E with SLI. I also chose a videocard that said superclocked, but I could choose another if that is not a good idea.

As well, what is the difference between PCI-E with SLI and a Crossfire? Thanks for the help so far.

[Locky]

What do you mean by l2 Cache? And I went PCI-E with SLI. I also chose a videocard that said superclocked, but I could choose another if that is not a good idea.

As well, what is the difference between PCI-E with SLI and a Crossfire? Thanks for the help so far.

L2 cache is on the CPU, the higher the better, you want at least 1mb. PCI-E, is the latest port for graphics cards, it replaces AGP x8, and is faster. SLI allows you to run dual video cards, that support SLI. Crossfire has two PCI-E ports. So it's either SLI or crossfire, but i think crossfire would be faster, don't quote me on that though, i'm abit rusty with recent hardware. Crossfire is some feature on ATI graphics card, supposedly makes it faster, for dual cards. Like SLI, i think.

EDIT: My bad. Crossfire is the chipset on a ATI motherbaord, it works with the CPU, or something to make gaming faster, lol. My bad.

[Incinerate_IV]

You do know that theres a sticky in this forum that answers most of your questions, right?

Anyways, like Locky said, watercooling is not necessery unless you want to overclock, which I'm pretty sure you are not going to do. As for the motherboard and processor, get an AM2 motherboard and processor, since thats AMDs newest socket and it's very future proof. You should consider a FX-62 for the processor and 2 Geforce 7900GTX for the graphics card, as those are the top of the line right now. You can also choose 2 Radeon X1900XTX instead of 2 7900GTX if you want, they performs about the same, just made by different company.

Oh yea, SLI and Crossfire is the same thing, SLI is just for Geforce cards (like the Geforce 7900GTX) while Crossfire is for ATI cards (like the Radeon X1900XTX).

[PyrrhusIV]

Well, if he actually wants such an extreme computer... He could buy 1 7950GX2 and then wait for the newest driver release and buy another , than he would have the absolute top of the line.... still say it is all overkill though. Also, he'll want DDR2 RAM, and as you've said incinerate, a Dual-Core AM2 processor...

Not saying the X2's are bad, they are just not being updated. Hell, I could put my 4800 vs the FX-60 and their was no difference. Put it against the FX-62 i couldnt imagine much more difference unless you added the new DDR2 Ram which runs at 1066mhz ...

[Sir Robin]

Before going with Monarch you also might want to check this review.

Of course you may have no problems but it is something you might want to be aware of.

[Ahiga]

DX10 is Vista only, so I don't really see a point. I'll probably go with XP, right?

You do know that theres a sticky in this forum that answers most of your questions, right?

Anyways, like Locky said, watercooling is not necessery unless you want to overclock, which I'm pretty sure you are not going to do. As for the motherboard and processor, get an AM2 motherboard and processor, since thats AMDs newest socket and it's very future proof. You should consider a FX-62 for the processor and 2 Geforce 7900GTX for the graphics card, as those are the top of the line right now. You can also choose 2 Radeon X1900XTX instead of 2 7900GTX if you want, they performs about the same, just made by different company.

Oh yea, SLI and Crossfire is the same thing, SLI is just for Geforce cards (like the Geforce 7900GTX) while Crossfire is for ATI cards (like the Radeon X1900XTX).

Yeah, I apologize for making a new post despite that, but I wasn't sure whether posting in the existing topic would recieve as much answers as a nwe topic did.

I'm looking at the custom desktop systems I can work with and it does not seem that Crossfire will be possible in a AM2 socket system according to their options. I'm also noticing that at the moment I cannot get a double Geforce 7950 GX2 1 gig Videocard. As someone said, I would have to wait for the driver to arrive to allow that.

Well, if he actually wants such an extreme computer... He could buy 1 7950GX2 and then wait for the newest driver release and buy another , than he would have the absolute top of the line.... still say it is all overkill though. Also, he'll want DDR2 RAM, and as you've said incinerate, a Dual-Core AM2 processor...

Not saying the X2's are bad, they are just not being updated. Hell, I could put my 4800 vs the FX-60 and their was no difference. Put it against the FX-62 i couldnt imagine much more difference unless you added the new DDR2 Ram which runs at 1066mhz ...

The reason I'd do overkill with a 7950 GX2 is because I want this system to try and last as long as it can with a bare minimum of upgrades (I feel like every time I upgraded in the past, I'd make a new error). Thus, I'm thinking it would be smarter to go with the Geforce 7950 GX2 because it is the best out there as a single card, and so long as there is a potential for upgrading (Does it have to be the exact same card? Or can it be another, like a Geforce 7900GTX?), I will not have to worry about it becomming out of date.

Would two geforce 7900 GTX's outdo a 7950 GX2? Could the 7950 run oblivion maxed out and potentially/assumably run MTWII and other up and comming FPS's at max? My thought is that the 7900 GTX might be stronger right now because it's two ultra-high videocards, but that in the future by being able to upgrade to a second 7950 GX2, i'd be far better off. Thats why I'd ask you guys if you think it would be better to get 2 Geforce 7900 GTX, or whether it would be better to get a Geforce 7950 GX2 and to then upgrade to a second one once I feel it's necessary.


Here's the essentials I am looking at right now:

Motherboard:

Either the http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ct_Code=110829 or the http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ct_Code=110816

I'm not sure which to go with. It seems like the latter has more expansion slots (2+2+3 vs 2+1+1+2), only one more though. For a newbie, what would those expansion slots be used for? I assume video and sound card, not hard drive or RAM, unless I'm mistaken?

Processor: AMD Athlon FX-62 Dual-core 1MB per core 90 nm (Socket AM2) (OEM)

Memory: I have no real idea what company to buy my RAM from, all I know is that my friends praised Corsair. Here are the options of companies: Buffalo, Corsair, Patriot. I believe I will go for 4 gigs of RAM. DDR2 of course. What it remarks on the Memory Information is as follows: Athlon 64/FX/Sempron (Socket AM2):
The Socket AM2 platform supports dual channel DDR2 memory. Like previous Athlon 64 platforms (754 and 939), this platform has an integrated memory controller. This translates into faster performance. Socket AM2 chipsets support DDR2 400/533/667/800 unbuffered memory speeds. When selecting an Athlon 64 or Sempron processor, keep in mind that AMD will only support up to DDR2 667 where FX and X2 processors support up to DDR2 800. My system is an AMD, but the only DDR2 800 RAM is a paltry 512 Mb one, so that is not an issue, unless I am mistaken?

Either way, I could use some opinions on which of those memory I should go with, unless you would like me to cease this topic and ask the quesitons in the hardware pinned thread. :original: In the future after this purchase, I will do so.

Hard Drive: I use Western Digital and like Western digital, but you all may have heard or experienced better with Seagate. I also wonder which of the types of hard drive I should go for. IDE, SATA, SATA3G, or SCSI. I'll probably go with 2-3 hard drives, of an amount unknown at the moment (maybe a small 120 one for the OS, a large 200-300 one for games and a large one for music and video.

CD-ROM and DVD: will likely be a Lite on, unless you think I should go Asus?

Video Card: The big Tamale. Based on what you guy's have given me advice on, the ones I'm down to are either:

2 EVGA GeForce 7900 GTX EGS 512 MB DDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-OUT/Dual-DVI-DL
EVGA GeForce 7950 GX2 1 GB GDDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-DL
MSI Geforce 7950 GX2 1 GB GDDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-DL
BFG Geforce 7950 GX2 1 GB DDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-DL
Asus Geforce 7950 GX2 1 GB DDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-DL
2 Asus Geforce 7900 GTX 512 MB DDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-Dl

As I said to PyrrhusIV, I am leaning towards a 7950 GX2 1 Gig, but I do not want to get this if it is far weaker than a dual 7900 GTX. Here's kind of what I want to know:

1. What will be the approximate length before I can run a dual system of two 7950 GX2s?
2. Will two 7950 GX2s be stronger than two 7900 GTX's?
3. Will one 7950 GX2 be able to max oblivion and other soon to arrive games (NWN2 and MTWII being ones that come to mind), because a single 7900 GTX can run oblivion according to Imperator of rome - but at what graphics quality? Do you have AA on and a reasonably good resolution (Over 1200x700 and preferrably over the 1200x1000 area).
4. Would I notice a drastic difference if I ran two systems, one with the 2 7900 GTX and one with a solitary 7950 GX2?

That's the essentials. Once they are down I'll come back for Case fan, power supply, case (not aesthicisaly, but in terms of choosing a good one that is large enough for addons) and so on. Thanks guys, I'd be up ***** creek without a paddle if not for this.

[Imperator of Rome]

DX10 is Vista only, so I don't really see a point. I'll probably go with XP, right?



Yeah, I apologize for making a new post despite that, but I wasn't sure whether posting in the existing topic would recieve as much answers as a nwe topic did.

I'm looking at the custom desktop systems I can work with and it does not seem that Crossfire will be possible in a AM2 socket system according to their options. I'm also noticing that at the moment I cannot get a double Geforce 7950 GX2 1 gig Videocard. As someone said, I would have to wait for the driver to arrive to allow that.




The reason I'd do overkill with a 7950 GX2 is because I want this system to try and last as long as it can with a bare minimum of upgrades (I feel like every time I upgraded in the past, I'd make a new error). Thus, I'm thinking it would be smarter to go with the Geforce 7950 GX2 because it is the best out there as a single card, and so long as there is a potential for upgrading (Does it have to be the exact same card? Or can it be another, like a Geforce 7900GTX?), I will not have to worry about it becomming out of date.

Would two geforce 7900 GTX's outdo a 7950 GX2? Could the 7950 run oblivion maxed out and potentially/assumably run MTWII and other up and comming FPS's at max? My thought is that the 7900 GTX might be stronger right now because it's two ultra-high videocards, but that in the future by being able to upgrade to a second 7950 GX2, i'd be far better off. Thats why I'd ask you guys if you think it would be better to get 2 Geforce 7900 GTX, or whether it would be better to get a Geforce 7950 GX2 and to then upgrade to a second one once I feel it's necessary.


Here's the essentials I am looking at right now:

Motherboard:

Either the http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ct_Code=110829 or the http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ct_Code=110816

I'm not sure which to go with. It seems like the latter has more expansion slots (2+2+3 vs 2+1+1+2), only one more though. For a newbie, what would those expansion slots be used for? I assume video and sound card, not hard drive or RAM, unless I'm mistaken?

Processor: AMD Athlon FX-62 Dual-core 1MB per core 90 nm (Socket AM2) (OEM)

Memory: I have no real idea what company to buy my RAM from, all I know is that my friends praised Corsair. Here are the options of companies: Buffalo, Corsair, Patriot. I believe I will go for 4 gigs of RAM. DDR2 of course. What it remarks on the Memory Information is as follows: Athlon 64/FX/Sempron (Socket AM2):
The Socket AM2 platform supports dual channel DDR2 memory. Like previous Athlon 64 platforms (754 and 939), this platform has an integrated memory controller. This translates into faster performance. Socket AM2 chipsets support DDR2 400/533/667/800 unbuffered memory speeds. When selecting an Athlon 64 or Sempron processor, keep in mind that AMD will only support up to DDR2 667 where FX and X2 processors support up to DDR2 800. My system is an AMD, but the only DDR2 800 RAM is a paltry 512 Mb one, so that is not an issue, unless I am mistaken?

Either way, I could use some opinions on which of those memory I should go with, unless you would like me to cease this topic and ask the quesitons in the hardware pinned thread. :original: In the future after this purchase, I will do so.

Hard Drive: I use Western Digital and like Western digital, but you all may have heard or experienced better with Seagate. I also wonder which of the types of hard drive I should go for. IDE, SATA, SATA3G, or SCSI. I'll probably go with 2-3 hard drives, of an amount unknown at the moment (maybe a small 120 one for the OS, a large 200-300 one for games and a large one for music and video.

CD-ROM and DVD: will likely be a Lite on, unless you think I should go Asus?

Video Card: The big Tamale. Based on what you guy's have given me advice on, the ones I'm down to are either:

2 EVGA GeForce 7900 GTX EGS 512 MB DDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-OUT/Dual-DVI-DL
EVGA GeForce 7950 GX2 1 GB GDDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-DL
MSI Geforce 7950 GX2 1 GB GDDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-DL
BFG Geforce 7950 GX2 1 GB DDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-DL
Asus Geforce 7950 GX2 1 GB DDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-DL
2 Asus Geforce 7900 GTX 512 MB DDR3/PCI-E/HDTV-Out/Dual-DVI-Dl

As I said to PyrrhusIV, I am leaning towards a 7950 GX2 1 Gig, but I do not want to get this if it is far weaker than a dual 7900 GTX. Here's kind of what I want to know:

1. What will be the approximate length before I can run a dual system of two 7950 GX2s?
2. Will two 7950 GX2s be stronger than two 7900 GTX's?
3. Will one 7950 GX2 be able to max oblivion and other soon to arrive games (NWN2 and MTWII being ones that come to mind), because a single 7900 GTX can run oblivion according to Imperator of rome - but at what graphics quality? Do you have AA on and a reasonably good resolution (Over 1200x700 and preferrably over the 1200x1000 area).
4. Would I notice a drastic difference if I ran two systems, one with the 2 7900 GTX and one with a solitary 7950 GX2?

That's the essentials. Once they are down I'll come back for Case fan, power supply, case (not aesthicisaly, but in terms of choosing a good one that is large enough for addons) and so on. Thanks guys, I'd be up ***** creek without a paddle if not for this.

Of course a geforce 7900 can run oblivion over 1200by700 maxed it,easily I think at higher then 50fps.I have checked the 7800's benchmarks and they are superb so I expect the 7900 to be better.The recommended specs for oblivion is a 6800 which can run oblivion with pretty good looking visuals at good resolutions.

[Shaun]

Of course a geforce 7900 can run oblivion over 1200by700 maxed it,easily I think at higher then 50fps.I have checked the 7800's benchmarks and they are superb so I expect the 7900 to be better.The recommended specs for oblivion is a 6800 which can run oblivion with pretty good looking visuals at good resolutions.

But the 6800 wont last very long, better going with something like a 7900 at least. Or get a X1900XT, as that is currently the fastest card on the market. If you can afford it, get 2 in a crossfire system.

[Imperator of Rome]

Though I have the gist of what I want to be aiming for, I'm pretty much in the blank as to the details of this:

I know that I want a Dual-core processor, but I don't know if this can be done on an AMD system. I'm assuming AMD 64 X2 is the equvilanet of a dual core Intel, but I may be wrong. I also don't know the specific AMD I want, but It does need to be top of the line.

I know I need at least 2 gigs, but not what company-developed gig, and if I should go for 3 or 4 (I think I should, just because going for 2 gigs when games were not even requiring 256 megabyte ram back in 2003 was a smart move).

I know I need a dual-system of Geforce, but not what card it should be, or if it should be AGP, PCI, or something else

In short, this would be a system that is top of the line today and tomorrow, and should be able to run game's exceptionally well for at least a year or two, especially in preparation for the big names comming out, such as Age of Conan, that sequel to a shooter whose name i forget but will be set with us, north korea, and aliens..I want a system that is ultra-high for as long as possible, to ward off the need of upgrading. Something to let me run oblivion on max, MTWII on max, and other up and comming games on max. The price range would be 2000 to the low 4000s.


All in all, the real issues before I go onto the cooling system (I Might go and get a liquid coolant) are with Motherboard and CPU, RAM and Videocard, and potentially also hard drive. There are a few other issues (Regarding the case and the cooling), but it's those which have caught me up the most, especially which of these custom rigs to base mine on: The Monarch Furia 2 (socket AM2) Custom desktop, or the Monarch Furia (939 64/FX/X2) custom desktop. Which of these two is the better option for gaming, and for the future?

This week I'll be putting together systems on Monarch's site: http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Code=allcustom and be comming back to recieve opinions on the system, but I could use some advice before I go at it. What's the top of the line videocard, cpu, motherboard, ram, and so on, and what will have me cruising for at least a year, better if it's two.

I'm never one for overspending on a pc but,you would want to get DDR2 Ram,939 or Am2 and the FX-62.As video cards go get the 7900's,ack even one card can run oblivion on a acceptable frame rate (over 20 for me).Get pci express it's the future and will allow you to use two video cards.

[RaniK]

Wait for DX10.

[Ahiga]

I would, but the crossfire system, at least on monarch, does not work with their AM2 Socket system. That's why I am considering going with the 7950 GX2 1 GIB card, and running two of them once the driver to allow that comes out = better to be less powerful than the 2-7900 for a little bit and then be able to be far more powerful than it (And hopefully more powerful than 2 X1900XT).

Is the 7950 better than the 7900 (I assume so) and better than the X1900XT?

[Shaun]

Is the 7950 better than the 7900 (I assume so) and better than the X1900XT?

Yes, the 7950 GX2 is currently the best card out there, due to the dual core design. But the X1900XT is still the fastest, and is better for overclocking IMO. What makes the 7950 GX2 blow everything else out the water is its design, its dual core, so far no other cards are. And this allows an astonishing 1GB memory, thats more than I have RAM

Well, as you are saying that an ATI card wont work with your AM2 motherboard(It does on mine) Go for the 7950 GX2.

But the trouble with getting an SLI setup is that you need 2 of the exact same cards, and I mean EXACT! In reality, you are only going to find 2 of the exact same cards if you buy them together, which considering the 7950 GX2s price, is highy unlikely unless you have saved up or are rich

Crossfire, on the other hand, only requires that one card is a crossfire edition, you can even run an X1900 and an X1800! But you dont want to do this, as the fastes card can only run as fast as the slowest card.

[Spork Wielding Spartans]

But the trouble with getting an SLI setup is that you need 2 of the exact same cards, and I mean EXACT! In reality, you are only going to find 2 of the exact same cards if you buy them together, which considering the 7950 GX2s price, is highy unlikely unless you have saved up or are rich

I don't know what you mean by exact, but Nvidia's drivers now support any SLI capable graphics cards of the same versoin running in SLI. So you would need another 7950GX2, unlike Crossfire, but it doesn't need to be exactly the same card (manufacturer, clock speed, etc.) anymore. Also as others have pointed out, one of any of the graphics cards you mentioned should have no problem at all with playing anything out today or the near future on max settings.

[PyrrhusIV]

Is the 7950 better than the 7900 (I assume so) and better than the X1900XT?

Yes, it is the best card on the market.

Yes, the 7950 GX2 is dual core in one card, thats where the 'X2' part in the name comes from.

No, it is two cards which are connected and use one PCI-Express Video slot. That is why Quad-SLI should be available in august, mid august.

[Ahiga]

Actually, I would buy two 7950 GX2s but they are not part of the feature of the desktop/workshop custom design on the site. I think I'll email them in regards to that to see if I can purchase it from them. But the dual core design of it is used in a single card, if I understand you correctly? Seeing as I won't be taking advantage of overclocking it does seem my best bet instead of the X1900XT.

When I try and do a custom desktop with Crossfire, the only options for motherboard is called ATX 64. For CPU, I lose the ability to do an FX-62. Instead, I get more options of AMD Opteron 185 Dual-core 2.6 GHz 1MB (per core) 64/32-bit (939). Strangely, it's $929, compared to the AMD athlon 64 FX-60 dual core (939). What's up with that? :original:

[Shaun]

Actually, I would buy two 7950 GX2s but they are not part of the feature of the desktop/workshop custom design on the site. I think I'll email them in regards to that to see if I can purchase it from them. But the dual core design of it is used in a single card, if I understand you correctly? Seeing as I won't be taking advantage of overclocking it does seem my best bet instead of the X1900XT.

When I try and do a custom desktop with Crossfire, the only options for motherboard is called ATX 64. For CPU, I lose the ability to do an FX-62. Instead, I get more options of AMD Opteron 185 Dual-core 2.6 GHz 1MB (per core) 64/32-bit (939). Strangely, it's $929, compared to the AMD athlon 64 FX-60 dual core (939). What's up with that? :original:

Yes, the 7950 GX2 is dual core in one card, thats where the 'X2' part in the name comes from.

And for a motherboard to run a crossfire system, you need an ATI motherboard, but they do come in AM2, and you should make sure you get AM2. But since you dont want to overclock, then just stick with the nVidia card.

[Ahiga]

Damn double post.

[Imperator of Rome]

Question,will a A8n32 deluxe be able to use crossfire?