[Hotseat] A Kingdom of Ice (Joffrey Open)

[Pinkie Pie]

1: So I should be the kind of admin that instead goes with the 33%?

2: My point was that you want this changed so you can attack a particular faction. It is the same as Greyjoys wanting the rules changed so they can successfully sail to the Vale and attack there.

3: Both the example and your complaint are about how certain rules can make it unfair on certain factions.

4: Exactly, it is what you WANT to do. If the only possible option whatsoever was you attacking Joffrey on your own I would accept it but it is not. It does not matter how many reason you state why you should go after him over another faction because you have yet to dispute the fact that there are other options.

[Mithridate]

1: So I should be the kind of admin that instead goes with the 33%?

You should not make a public pull but an unofficial one where not everyone can vote, i strongly advise against making un-neccesaryly complicated solutions to simple problems.

Simply state that lannister cannot attack the forces around Riverrun and the problem is solved without the need to employ forced peace for all when things start off in a state of total civil war where certain factions rely heavily on the initial drive.

2: My point was that you want this changed so you can attack a particular faction. It is the same as Greyjoys wanting the rules changed so they can successfully sail to the Vale and attack there.

Not at all, i can still attack him i merely cannot do so on free terms, nor can i use this as leverage. I have to wait for him to prepare while running into debt and increasing disadvantage for an invented artificial reason

3: Both the example and your complaint are about how certain rules can make it unfair on certain factions.

How this rule for certain makes it unfair for a minority for one factions problem that could easily be solved with a very minor restriction not really affecting overall gameplay.

4: Exactly, it is what you WANT to do. If the only possible option whatsoever was you attacking Joffrey on your own I would accept it but it is not. It does not matter how many reason you state why you should go after him over another faction because you have yet to dispute the fact that there are other options.

So me saying that its more strategically sound, makes more sense out of a lore based view and its associated points was not disputing that?

Ive never said that its my only options, ive even pointed out that it is indeed not my only one but the best one imho while even stating why.

[Pinkie Pie]

As long as the Greyjoys get their turn

[Pinkie Pie]

1: If you want we can make a new unoficial poll but if it comes out with the same result then what is to stop you complaining again?

2: I am unsure why you think this is to do with the Tully situation.

3: it does however go against a majority vote.

4: Lorewise Stannis never landed in the Crownlands so you can't use that as a defence and you still refuse the possibility of allies helping you. 3 turns can get you an allied sttack within the Crownlands which will infact give you an advantage.

[Mithridate]

1: If you want we can make a new unoficial poll but if it comes out with the same result then what is to stop

We seem to agree to disagree, so id give up if that is done and gives the same outcome or worse.
Since we have a new arryn i think that would be fair as his vote is crucial in accordance with the current poll?

2: I am unsure why you think this is to do with the Tully situation.

From what ive seen its the one and only reason provided you do not accept tyrell to attack renly immidiately. Arguably letting him escape, as they n tully are placed exposed by default with the previous player able to take advantage.

3: it does however go against a majority vote.

Indeed, most unfortunate

4: Lorewise Stannis never landed in the Crownlands so you can't use that as a defence and you still refuse the possibility of allies helping you. 3 turns can get you an allied sttack within the Crownlands which will infact give you an advantage.

Lorewise stannis wants to claim the iron throne, and hold it against all who would oppose him.
If he had the ability he would surely strike there first, due to game mechanics he now has that ability.

Assuming i have allies is a big leap, i start out alone and most around me seem to already have pledged their alliances so i either join up against my will or fight relying on my own forces only. Even if i do manage to get an ally AND have him attack Joffrey it would mean a win for the alliance, not my faction in itself as otherwise would be. I would very much expect the one closing in on the crownlands with me becoming an enemy.

[Dr Mac]

Greyjoy

[vozd]

Next!

[Mithridate]

Well, will there be a new pull?

This one is still most unsatisfied

[Pinkie Pie]

No.

[Mithridate]

Hmpff...

This one is leaving this hotseat, ill play to the best of my ability untill a replacement is found

[Pinkie Pie]

Unfortunate, good luck with finding another hotseat

[Mithridate]

What happened with renly?

His faction, i can take instead^^
Took possesion, to keep things rolling

I am no less against this rule but Renly is not badly affected by it at least.

[Monty501]

House Tully up. My hand hurt from writing so many messages.

[Monty501]

Sorry here is he save. Took me a minute to figure out how to upload it.

[Pinkie Pie]

Where is the save?

[Dux]

I can take Stannis.

[Pinkie Pie]

Yay

[Merriman]

I need roughly 4-5 hours, as I am work now

[Merriman]

Stannnis, your go:

[Dux]

Martell: