Clash between Kosovo Serbs and Kosovo force in northern Kosovo, again

[hellheaven1987]

Does this have something to do with new Serbian Nationalist president?

Four Serbs and two K-For soldiers have been injured in a clash in northern Kosovo during an attempt by peacekeepers to clear roadblocks.

The Nato-led force said its soldiers had fired rubber bullets and tear gas after Serbs threw stones at a roadblock near the town of Zvecan.

The soldiers were shot, reportedly hit by pistol fire from the crowd.

Serbs set up roadblocks last year after Kosovo and the EU tried to take control of the disputed border with Serbia.

The border has been the scene of recurrent violence between K-For and ethnic Serbs who make up the majority in northern Kosovo.

Serbia's new nationalist President, Tomislav Nikolic, was sworn in on Thursday.

Earlier this week, Mr Nikolic said he would "never" recognise Kosovo as an independent state, even if it meant sacrificing the chance of EU membership.

The K-For action to remove barricades is being seen by some Serb analysts as a warning to the new Serbian president to respect EU-mediated agreements reached by his predecessor, Boris Tadic, earlier this year, the BBC's Nick Thorpe reports.

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Now, I kindly wonder how those Serbs govern themselves; are those areas semi-governing now? Do those areas cut off all communication with Kosovo government? Does Serbia help those areas? Why Kosovo does not just let those Serb area go to Serbia?

[Tiberios]

The majority Serb areas in Northern Kosovo should be returned to Serbia. There is absolutely no reason why these areas should remain part of Kosovo.

[Inconsistent]

They won't accept northern Kosovo as part of Serbia, because to them, it already is, and they'd be acknowledging that the rest isn't.

[Kanaric]

Maybe Kosovo needs to accept that that part of the country needs to be serbia?

[alien_t]

Maybe Kosovo needs to accept that that part of the country needs to be serbia?

Looking at the Kosovo situation, It would make more sense for the northern Serb part to be detached and intergrated into Serbia proper?

It wont happen because of the huge coal ledges in North Kosovo. They're simply sitting atop the 5th largest lignite coal reserves on the planet. The powers that inspired and backed up Kosovo's independence simply wont allow it.

[4th Regiment]

It wont happen because of the huge coal ledges in North Kosovo. They're simply sitting atop the 5th largest lignite coal reserves on the planet. The powers that inspired and backed up Kosovo's independence simply wont allow it.

Only one of the reasons...speaking about natural resources - huge reserves of Pb and Ag (I think, still biggest in Europe) and many other rare metals...

1.Much more more important STRATEGIC reasons - since early XIX c , British politics of containing Russia (taken by US in modern times) which always seen Serbs are little Russians , and POTENTIAL allies of Russia in Europe no matter what , and as such must be shrinked and disabled in any possible way- Even encouraging Albanian clans to commit worse crimes of genocide and etnic cleansing in Old Serbia back since Crimean War (explained in detailed by The Noble Lord, as he did his thesis on this) . And this was constant no matter how much Serbian "elites" licked their asses (like in late Obrenovic's dynasty period, or in last 12 years..) To put simple - A , will remain in eyes of rasist no matter how hard he try to be white.

2. Other reason is making and controlling crises and instabillity in Europe (plus having biggest Euro base at Bonstil )

3. Showing islamic world, example that they are actually helping Muslims, when they are "really" in danger (no meter Albnains cleansed, not only Serbs, but all other Muslims from Kosovo (Turks, slav Muslims, Gypsies) and baying credits to S Arabia and satelites who are puring loads of $$$ in region finansing islamic schools, mosques and dangerous vahabi sect in Balkans

4. Keeping Alabanians as loving puppies, preventing so called white Al-Kaida which is much harder to stop (just for example, Albanians have show them few times, once even in USA with caught terrorist , what can be done, if they do not remain loving puppies )

5. Keeping whole Balkans totally pupetisied

6. Using Pristina airport and Albanian mafia (which owns 90% of Euro heroin trade) as a way of controling heroin $$$$ for black CIA and other black funds - For morons who can not make 1+1 = 2, there is excelent Italian RAI 1 documentary about this Afgan - Kosovo connection..


So, killing few fllies with one strike



And some clarifications for people who do not know much

1. "Kosovo" - first borders of Kosovo and Metohija, as authonomus province were established in 1944 by Tito, while geographic region of Kosovo plain, made 20-25% of that new province. So, it is totally artificial, even in therms of name and borders

2. "Norther Kosovo" - was not region of "serbian majority", but region with no single Albanian village, north of Ibar river, added to province of "Kosovo" in 1954. by Tito again

3. "Just" etnic borders solution of giving this N Kosovo to Serbia - what about those 250 000 non Albanians cleansed south of Ibar river? "Return of refugees" was so "good", that now we have less Serbs there, than in 1999 after the war. Will Albanians will be maybe forced by their US big papa, to give land for those 250 000 to settle down and join Serbia? (no single Serb live in big cities south of Ibar)

[alien_t]

Only one of the reasons...speaking about natural resources - huge reserves of Pb and Ag (I think, still biggest in Europe) and many other rare metals...

1.Much more more important STRATEGIC reasons - since early XIX c , British politics of containing Russia (taken by US in modern times) which always seen Serbs are little Russians , and POTENTIAL allies of Russia in Europe no matter what...

Yep, We suffered the same policy 134 years ago. I suspect the Balkans will be further fragmented...

2. Other reason is making and controlling crises and instabillity in Europe (plus having biggest Euro base at Bonstil )

Very strong motive indeed - US/EU Economic rivalry(plus the Turkey is not any more the US ally it use to be).

5. Keeping whole Balkans totally pupetisied

Unfortunately true again.

[il padrino]

The Nato-led force said its soldiers had fired rubber bullets and tear gas after Serbs threw stones at a roadblock near the town of Zvecan.

Hah,bloody hypocrites.












Didn't know that rubber bullets can cause that kind of damage.Anyway I passed at that exact spot 2 weeks ago,and there were roadblocks.But now,after Nikolic became the president of Serbia,somehow KFOR decided to make unilateral moves that threaten the stability of the region.Hmm...

[Exarch]

balkanise the balkans, they said; it'll be better for peace, they said.

[il padrino]

Like I've said,this KFOR aggressive move was in order to put pressure on the new Serbian president.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics...2&nav_id=80563

EU waiting to hear Nikolić's stance on Kosovo, rep says

Source: Tanjug BELGRADE -- The EU is waiting to see what stance the new Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić, will take on Kosovo, Head of EU Delegation to Serbia Vincent Degert has said.

Vincent Degert (Beta, file)

Degert expressed the hope that the dialogue between Belgrade and Priština would be resumed as soon as the new government was formed.
Degert told daily Danas that the EU also wanted to see the implementation of the agreements reached so far, adding progress had been made when it came to civil registries and cadastres, mutual recognition of diplomas and so on.

“Finding solutions to problems concerning daily lives of people and their full implementation is of crucial importance in the negotiation process,” stressed Degert.

He said that he expected that the priorities of the new government would include the continuation of judicial reform, fight against corruption, implementation of a set of media laws, and a strategy to ensure macroeconomic stability.

They don't even bother to hide their agenda...

[IrishHitman]

Like I've said,this KFOR aggressive move was in order to put pressure on the new Serbian president.

They don't even bother to hide their agenda...

Why would they hide their agenda?

If they recognise Kosovo as a sovereign state, why would they hide the fact that they support its continued existence without threat of annihilation?

[Wallachian]

Well this dosen't surprise me. I mean how do they expect these Serbians that live in a Serbian majority area to just accept that they are now part of another state. I can't even imagine how it would feel to suddenly become a foreigner in a place which used to be your own country. By all means the EU should accept these Northern territories must be reattached to Serbia.

And indeed this KFOR intervention seems to coincide a bit too conviniently with the new Serbian president being sworn in.

[Princess Cadance]

Why does Kosovo feel the need to retain such a unstable region,one with an obvious Serb majority and why is the U.N. and E.U. not pressuring there return? The coincidence of it coinciding with the swearing in of a new president of the Republic of Serbia is very...convenient. Political maneuvering anyone? Or opportunism?

[frozenprince]

Oh good, another Balkans thread, because all of these always go so swimmingly.

Just ceed Northern Kosovo back to Serbia, problem solved.

[Princess Cadance]

Nationalism doesn't allow that. Pride keeps the flame of war alive.

[Fluttershy]

give these Northern serb majority parts to Serbia and have Serbia recognize the rest of kosovo... as kosovo.

problem solved

but this is the balkans... so they will continue to hate each other and fight over retarded things as the rest of europe watches and shakes their heads in disgust.

The Balkans is pretty much the "Africa" of europe

[Demetrius of Serbia]

give these Northern serb majority parts to Serbia and have Serbia recognize the rest of kosovo... as kosovo.

problem solved

but this is the balkans... so they will continue to hate each other and fight over retarded things as the rest of europe watches and shakes their heads in disgust.

The Balkans is pretty much the "Africa" of europe

Long time guest, first time member? Might as well make this my first post. Anyway i agree with the Africa of Europe part and have thought of it as such for quite some time now. Partly because of all the wars, partly because of the tribal mentality. But it's also kind of unfair to think of it just as Africa, I also like The Playground of Superpowers title, although i guess you could pretty much say the same about actual Africa. The almost constant interfering of other countries made the tribal mentality so much worse. Which really is a shame because a lot of talented people were born in the Balkans. If so many wars weren't fought over the centuries who knows how the Balkans would look like today, alas...
As for the giving the northern part back to Serbia, it would be a fair compromise that should satisfy everyone. But that's not how it works here . Not only would we be pissed off that we didn't get all of it back, but the Albanians would also get pissed that they only got half.
That was lengthy. Time to go check the rest of the forums out.

[Princess Cadance]

@Fluttershy Sadly true. When you look at it the Balkans are the most backwards and least developed part of Europe and they kind of always have been. Again sadly it's highly possible that they'll always be.

[Wallachian]

@Fluttershy Sadly true. When you look at it the Balkans are the most backwards and least developed part of Europe and they kind of always have been. Again sadly it's highly possible that they'll always be.

You are probably right that they may never catch up with the rest of Europe. But this has not always been the case. In the late dark ages and early middle ages the Bulgarian Empire which spanned the whole of the Balkans was one of the most developed and rich states in Europe rivaling both the Eastern Roman Empire and the Frankish Empire.

Saying that the people there are fighting for retarded things is kind of ignorant (you only have to look at the conflict in Northern Ireland or in the Basque Country to see that simillar issues exist in Western Europe aswell).

[Ketnix]

Its easier said to simply give North Kosovo back to Serbia than done. What about the rest of the Serbs spotted around Kosovo? They arn't going to like that much.