"Bath salts" drug behind cannibal attack?

[Kitsunegari]

Wow, anyone heard of this stuff?

Rudy Eugene, 31, the so-called "cannibal" Miami man who was fatally shot as he chewed on another man's face in a gruesome attack over the weekend, is suspected to have been high on a drug known as "bath salts."
Armando Aguilar, president of the Miami Fraternal Order of Police announced his theory, adding that the drug “causes them to go completely insane and become very violent."
The dangerous drug, which is banned in many states, but so far has no specific federal ban (though there is a ban on the three main chemicals used to make the drug), is available on the street and also at many tobacco and drug paraphernalia shops under names like White China, Lady Bubbles, Dynamite, Vanilla Sky, Ivory Wave and Cloud 9.
Bath salts, the drug's benign name, belies its actual makeup -- a toxic cocktail of the stimulants Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV), mephedrone, and pyrovalerone. The Drug Enforcement Agency groups bath salts with mescaline and ephedrine, while dealers market the drug as a replacement for cocaine or a synthetic form of the hallucinogen LSD, according to CNN.
The drug can cause severe agitation, rapid heart rate, high blood pressure, paranoia and symptoms of psychosis, including hallucinations and delusions. The drug can also lead to overheating of the body, which is why so many users remove their clothing.

It was described as a zombie attack in the original story, are we dealing with an actual Resident Evil scenario?

[GreyFox]

Its one of those 'legal high' type drugs that have been around for a few years. After they figured out what was going on the government here in Ireland went and banned them, but they are still available in the US and other countries. The legal loopholes are apparently that the items are described as "not recommended for human consumption", or that they are "bath salts".

[Kitsunegari]

Yeah it sounded like PCP, but damn, it's spreading fast compared to that.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Why would you take a drug that makes you go insane? I just dont get it.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

Why would you take a drug that makes you go insane? I just dont get it.

is there a drug that doesn't?

[Morbius Sire]

Imagine a militarised version of that drug?
Probably as worse as nerve agents like VX gas...

Why would you take a drug that makes you go insane? I just dont get it.

Better thrill for addicts?

it isn't like they can think logically when they have an addiction urge

[The Dude]

Why would you take a drug that makes you go insane? I just dont get it.

Some new drug in Russia literally causes the flesh to melt off your body, so I guess all sorts of crazy exists that people take for one reason or another.

[Ulyaoth]

Because people are sad pathetic creatures looking to anything that might make their wretched lives different.

[alexanderswift]

Sure sounds like too much PCP, that drug has a long list of horrific stories surrounding it. I have no idea why anybody would take it.

[saxdude]

It scales to that, its not like your average joe says "hey I feel like drinking a poison that makes me go insane today".

[Krieglord]

This is the first time ive ever heard of this drug

crazy

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/dange...152600047.html

[Nutsack]

This is the first time ive ever heard of this drug

crazy

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/dange...152600047.html

It's not a drug, in fact the amount of drugs sold as "bath salts" are probably over 50-100 types of chemicals. I've owned over 250 grams of a bath salt drug called 4-methylethylcathinone at one point and it was actually very good to do business with. Eventually it got a hold of me and I suffered a downward spiral because of the substance.

These designer drugs have been on the market since about 2001, and they only recently started getting media attention, first in Europe, then in America. And yes, most of these drugs are extremely potent and cheap, for example, I would get a gram of 4-MEC for $6. That would be enough for about 4 people to have fun one night for about 3 hours.

The clips shown on the video above are extremely over the top. They do not realistically portray the effects these drugs have on the human body at all. They are probably extreme cases and while yes, if you do use these drugs in excess you will have a psychosis but the fact is most users never have these types of issues.

These stimulant drugs which have effects related to amphetamine, cocaine and mephedrone are dangerous. They are extremely addictive, I found 4-MEC to be far more addictive than amphetamine and any other drug I've ever tried (that includes opiates). But for the sake of accuracy, please take the news report with a huge grain of salt. They are trying to create a moral panic on purpose, and the video portrays a very ignorant view of the subject.

The fact is that most people take these stimulant drugs when going out to night clubs or having fun on a weekend. At events where they feel that they could use some extra energy and self-esteem (these drugs drastically increase your self-esteem to the point where you feel that you are the most beautiful creature on the planet). These drugs also lets you speak about interesting things with anyone for however long you wish to keep talking for - and you still somehow manage to keep their interest. In essence, these stimulant drugs make you a social god. The drug 4-MEC also had slight empathogenic qualities which means that it heightenes your empathy, and ability to relate to other peoples feelings. It also increases your sense of love. It basically makes you a superman, and not some crazy psychopath like portrayed in the media coverage. It does make you psycho if you keep on doing it in excess for months on end, day to day.

If I had used a small amount of the drug 4-MEC for example, and walked down the street at a Friday night, I would have catched almost all the womens attention by just walkign past them. It works in mysterious ways, but somehow the drug makes you think you're beautiful, and therefore makes you look beautiful in return. And it gives you a strong urge to speak to people. It's fantastic but that only means it's also more dangerous.

[alexanderswift]

A major factor is these drugs generally won't cause such adverse reactions. However if an unstable person does too much or mixes with other substances there's really no telling what will happen. A lot of people are careless or just don't know what they're getting into, and a lot of people just aren't the kind of people who can deal with an extreme bad trip (to be fair few people are but some people just shouldn't be doing drugs to begin with). It requires a very specific set of circumstances to cause these extreme reactions. Which is why there aren't more cases like this everyday.

It really comes down to the person, some people just shouldn't be doing at all drugs due to mental or physical conditions and some are resilient to the effects. Nutsack summed it up very well.

[Sphere]

Indeed.

All this incident shows is that zombies should not do drugs. If you are not a zombie, go ahead.

[Angrychris]

Same crap storys came out when pcp users were getting shot by cops to scare others out of doing it.

[Krieglord]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/conservativ...135601828.html

[Nutsack]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/conservativ...135601828.html

I'm very surprised by this article, since I know that the substance MDPV that apparently was used in the face-eating attack has been banned in Europe for years already. MDPV caused a sensation not only in public here in Sweden, but also on the internet because it is known to have the worst side-effects of any legal drug on these markets (bath salt). Out of all the different types of chemicals sold as bath salts, MDPV is known to be the most dangerous, a lot of people has died mixing it with other drugs or just on it's own.

[Kitsunegari]

Now i have an excuse to visit my relatives in Fort Lauderdale

It won’t be everyone’s idea of entertainment.
Less than a week after Miami’s horrific cannibal attack, a tourism group has announced it will add the gruesome site to its “Crime Coach” bus tour.
The bizarre face-eating incident, one of the most grisly crimes in recent memory, took place on May 26 on a ramp off Miami’s MacArthur Causeway.
Rudy Eugene, 31, who police believe was high on either LSD or the synthetic drug 'bath salts,' was shot and killed by cops after he was spotted eating the face of homeless drifter Ronald Poppo, 65, who is still in a hospital in critical condition.
The site will soon be included in the “Mystery, Mayhem and Vice Crime Bus” tour, part of Miami's HistoryMiami sightseeing program.


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