Karzai thanks Obama for American tax money - thank you America!!

[hellheaven1987]

Funny enough Americans call themselves are innocent civilians that should not be targeted by enemies when they are actively funding their own war machine and foreign plots.

Looking to a day when "the Afghan war as we understand it is over," President Barack Obama met Sunday with Afghan President Hamid Karzai to discuss NATO's withdrawal from that strife-torn country by the end of 2014.

Obama, who has put the draw-down of combat troops at the heart of his foreign policy, declared that "the world is behind the strategy" of giving Afghans control over their own security, but stressed that "now it's our task to implement if effectively."

Karzai, who aims to secure billions of dollars in long-term aid for his country's military and economy, said he looked forward to a day when "Afghanistan is no longer a burden on the shoulders of of our friends in the international community, on the shoulders of the United States and our other allies."

"I'm bringing to you and to the people of the United States the gratitude of the Afghan people for the support that your taxpayers' money has provided Afghanistan over the past decade and for the difference that it has made to the well-being of the Afghan people," Karzai told Obama.

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Joking aside, this thread is more about NATO's discussion of leaving Afghanistan.

US President Barack Obama has warned of "hard days ahead" at a Nato summit in Chicago dominated by the issue of withdrawal from Afghanistan.

France's new President Francois Hollande has again said he will pull French troops out by the end of 2012, nearly two years ahead of schedule.

Nato is preparing to hand over security to Afghan forces by the end of 2014.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said his country was fully aware of its responsibilities.

Some Nato members have pledged aid to help Afghan forces tackle the Taliban insurgency on their own.

The BBC's defence correspondent Caroline Wyatt says the summit is seeking to reconcile two different messages.

It is telling the public in Nato countries that the fighting in Afghanistan is coming to an end for their troops, while reassuring the Afghans that the alliance will not abandon them after 2014, our correspondent says.

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It is known that the new French government already told Obama the French troops would pull out in the end of 2012 no matter what, and it is expected most NATO members would push such plan regardless what the situation of Afghanistan is. However, President Hollande also states that French government would probably sign a special military treaty with Afghanistan government - mainly the military cooperation between Afghanistan and France would continue and French troops may still redeploy into Afghanistan if the situation demands. In short, the hole French left may be a good test for ANA to learn how to operate independently in next two years to prepare the eventually NATO pull out in 2014.

[Enemy of the State]

Funny enough Americans call themselves are innocent civilians that should not be targeted by enemies when they are actively funding their own war machine and foreign plots.

Is the victim of a robbery responsible for a murder that was commited using a gun purchased with the money stolen from him?

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

That was promised to him by George W. Bush. (you forgot that part - by accident, of course)

[Gatsby]

I reallt don't know where I stand on the issue of withdrawal. I want NATO troops out as quickly as possible and I really do not consider Afghanistan worth the effort and expenses, yet I don't want reckless withdrawal and overreliance on the frankly unreliable ANA leading to all previous efforts going to waste.

[Kanaric]

That was promised to him by George W. Bush. (you forgot that part - by accident, of course)

Its hilarious how the right want to erase bush from history.

[Menelik_I]

My Pasthoun is bad, but Karzai words translate as ''Thank you for da money Suckers!"

[hellheaven1987]

My Pasthoun is bad, but Karzai words translate as ''Thank you for da money Suckers!"

You bet it.

Is the victim of a robbery responsible for a murder that was commited using a gun purchased with the money stolen from him?

Are you suggesting US government rob their own civilians for cash?

[Rolling Thunder]

Are you suggesting US government rob their own civilians for cash?

TAXATION IS THEFT!

[Psychonaut]

Are you suggesting US government rob their own civilians for cash?

It's not theft, it's just the American government forcing us (teh civilians) to hand over a large percentage of our income, under the threat of a jail sentence if we don't. See? Not theft at all!

[Fernandez_1492]

I hear the lithium mining and poppy harvesting is great in Afghanistan.
I might just invest in the companies that are profiting.

[Stavroforos]

I would like to use this opportunity to thank the United States and its taxpayers for the money they gave Greece during the Marshall Plan and Truman Doctrine.

[Heinz Guderian]

I would like to use this opportunity to thank the United States and its taxpayers for the money they gave Greece during the Marshall Plan and Truman Doctrine.

which also led to US demanded/forced electoral/governmental change which led to authoritarianism and economically stagnant rule for many years from 1951. But at least you guys didnt turn communist.

edit: iirc the Marshall Plan didnt actually involve any cash transfers between the US and receivor states. its been a few years since i read about it.

[Stavroforos]

which also led to US demanded/forced electoral/governmental change which led to authoritarianism and economically stagnant rule for many years from 1951. But at least you guys didnt turn communist.

Indeed, at least we didn't turn red. Too bad America didn't make us into a state though, would've been better for us.

[Fernandez_1492]

which also led to US demanded/forced electoral/governmental change which led to authoritarianism and economically stagnant rule for many years from 1951. But at least you guys didnt turn communist.

Not yet

[gastovski]

I would like to use this opportunity to thank the United States and its taxpayers for the money they gave Turkey during the Marshall Plan and Truman Doctrine.

Let me add.

[Armenum]

and I'm sure the Afghan people agree that the US taxpayer money is really worth it in improving their country.....really the taxpayer money would be best spent on paying for the exit of NATO combat forces.

[brandbll]

We've dropped a half a trillion or so on Afghanistan and it's still the same sandy hole filled with the same crazy ass holes as it was before we got there.

[mrmouth]

Karzai is either going to end up dead, or in exile - so I don't know what he is gloating about. He's burnt every bridge he ever had. The man is delusional. And if we were the Russians, we'd have done it ourselves long ago.

[Condottiere 40K]

I'm working on a theory of foreign policy goals achieved by co-opting local interests and incentivsing them through performance based pay-offs.

[s.rwitt]

Its hilarious how the right want to erase bush from history.

That was promised to him by George W. Bush. (you forgot that part - by accident, of course)

Since when is Hellheaven part of "the right"?