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    Very interesting. Well sourced too - I guess that means pretty much what we have been expecting: the US has entered a phase of irreversible economic decadence and China will become the new dominant superpower.



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    47 Signs That China Is Absolutely Destroying America On The Global Economic Stage

    Have you ever watched a football game or a basketball game where one team dominates the other team so badly that calling it a "blowout" would be a huge understatement? Well, that is what China is doing to the United States. China is absolutely destroying America on the global economic stage. Once upon a time, the Chinese economy was a joke and the U.S. economy was the most powerful the world had ever seen. But over the past couple of decades the U.S. economy has decayed and declined while the Chinese economy has skyrocketed. Today, China makes more steel, more automobiles, more beer, more cotton, more coal and more solar panels than we do. China has the fastest train in the world, the fastest computer in the world and they export twice as much high-tech equipment as we do. In 2011, our trade deficit with China was the largest trade deficit that one nation has had with another nation in the history of the world, and China has now accumulated more than 3 trillion dollars in foreign currency reserves. Every single day, we lose more jobs, more businesses and more of our national wealth to China. In technical economic terms, China has "taken us out behind the woodshed" and has beaten the living daylights out of us. Unfortunately, most Americans are so addicted to entertainment that they don't even realize what is happening.

    If you do not believe that China is wiping the floor with America in front of the rest of the world, just keep reading. The following are 47 signs that China is absolutely destroying America on the global economic stage....

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    #1 Back in 1998, the United States had 25 percent of the world’s high-tech export market and China had just 10 percent. Today, China's high-tech exports are more than twice the size of U.S. high-tech exports.

    #2 America has lost more than a quarter of all of its high-tech manufacturing jobs over the past ten years.

    #3 The Chinese economy has grown 7 times faster than the U.S. economy has over the past decade.

    #4 In 2010, China produced more than twice as many automobiles as the United States did.

    #5 In 2010, China produced 627 million metric tons of steel. The United States only produced 80 million metric tons of steel.

    #6 In 2010, China produced 7.3 million metric tons of cotton. The United States only produced 3.4 million metric tons of cotton.

    #7 China produced 19.8 percent of all the goods consumed in the world during 2010. The United States only produced 19.4 percent.

    #8 During 2010, we spent $365 billion on goods and services from China while they only spent $92 billion on goods and services from us.

    #9 In 1985, the U.S. trade deficit with China was 6 million dollars for the entire year. The final U.S. trade deficit with China for 2011 will be very close to 300 billion dollars. That will be the largest trade deficit that one nation has had with another nation in the history of the world.

    #10 The U.S. trade deficit with China is now 28 times larger than it was back in 1990.

    #11 Since China entered the WTO in 2001, the U.S. trade deficit with China has grown by an average of 18% per year.

    #12 According to the New York Times, a Jeep Grand Cherokee that costs $27,490 in the United States costs about $85,000 in China.

    #13 According to the Economic Policy Institute, America is losing half a million jobs to China every single year.

    #14 The United States has lost a staggering 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.

    #15 The United States had been the leading consumer of energy on the globe for about 100 years, but during the summer of 2010 China took over the number one spot.

    #16 15 years ago, China was 14th in the world in published scientific research articles. But now, China is expected to pass the United States and become number one very shortly.

    #17 China is also expected to soon become the global leader in patent filings.

    #18 In 2009, the United States ranked dead last of the 40 nations examined by the Information Technology & Innovation Foundation when it came to "change" in "global innovation-based competitiveness" over the previous ten years.

    #19 China now awards more doctoral degrees in engineering each year than the United States does.

    #20 China now possesses the fastest supercomputer on the entire planet.

    #21 China now has the world's fastest train and the world's most extensive high-speed rail network.

    #22 The construction of the new $200 million African Union headquarters was funded by China.

    #23 Today, China produces nearly twice as much beer as the United States does.

    #24 85 percent of all artificial Christmas trees are made in China.

    #25 Amazingly, China now consumes 53 percent of the world's cement.

    #26 There are more pigs in China than in the next 43 pork producing nations combined.

    #27 China is now the number one producer of wind and solar power on the entire globe.

    #28 Chinese solar panel production was about 50 times larger in 2010 than it was in 2005.

    #29 Right now, China is producing more than three times as much coal as the United States does.

    #30 China controls over 90 percent of the total global supply of rare earth elements.

    #31 China is now the number one supplier of components that are critical to the operation of U.S. defense systems.

    #32 According to author Clyde Prestowitz, China's number one export to the U.S. is computer equipment. According to an article in U.S. News & World Report, during 2010 the number one U.S. export to China was "scrap and trash".

    #33 The United States has lost an average of 50,000 manufacturing jobs a month since China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001.

    #34 Back in the year 2000, more than 20 percent of all jobs in America were manufacturing jobs. Today, only about 5 percent of all jobs in America are manufacturing jobs.

    #35 Between December 2000 and December 2010, 38 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Ohio were lost, 42 percent of the manufacturing jobs in North Carolina were lost and 48 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Michigan were lost.

    #36 The average household debt load in the United States is 136% of average household income. In China, the average household debt load is 17% of average household income.

    #37 The new World Trade Center tower is going to be made with imported glass from China.

    #38 The new MLK memorial on the National Mall was made in China.

    #39 A Washington Post/ABC News poll conducted a while back found that 61 percent of all Americans consider China to be a threat to our jobs and economic security.

    #40 According to U.S. Representative Betty Sutton, an average of 23 manufacturing facilities a day closed down in the United States during 2010.

    #41 Overall, more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities in the United States have shut down since 2001.

    #42 According to Professor Alan Blinder of Princeton University, 40 million more U.S. jobs could be sent out of the country over the next two decades.

    #43 Over the past several decades, China has been able to accumulate approximately 3 trillion dollars in foreign currency reserves, and the U.S. government now owes China close to 1.5 trillion dollars.

    #44 According to the IMF, China will pass the United States and will become the largest economy in the world in 2016.

    #45 According to one prominent economist, the Chinese economy already has roughly the same amount of purchasing power as the U.S. economy does.

    #46 According to Stanford University economics professor Ed Lazear, if the U.S. economy and the Chinese economy continue to grow at current rates, the average Chinese citizen will be wealthier than the average American citizen in just 30 years.

    #47 Nobel economist Robert W. Fogel of the University of Chicago is projecting that the Chinese economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy by the year 2040 if current trends continue.

    If the global economy was a game, America would be losing very badly and China would have all the momentum.

    Unfortunately, the global economy is not a game. Very real businesses and very real jobs are affected by this every single day.

    Barack Obama keeps talking about how "the economy is improving", but the reality is that we have never even gotten close to where we were back before the financial crisis of 2008.

    The following chart (which I pulled off a Fed website today) shows the average duration of unemployment in America. Does this look like an economic recovery to you?....



    The Obama administration tells us that the official unemployment rate is only 8.5 percent, but that is a joke. Even the Congressional Budget Office admits that the official unemployment rate should actually be somewhere up around 10 percent.

    But the real story is the number of long-term unemployed workers we have in America today.

    According to the Hamilton Project, approximately 53 percent of all unemployed workers in the state of Florida were out of work for more than six months during 2011.

    But Barack Obama seems absolutely amazed that there are still so many unemployed people out there during his "economic recovery". Just check out the following interaction that took place between Obama and one concerned wife during a recent appearance by Obama on Google+....

    "Can I ask you what kind of engineer your husband is?," Obama said to the wife of the unemployed engineer.

    "He's a semiconductor engineer," she responded.

    "It is interesting to me -- and I meant what I said if your send me your husband's resume, I'd be interested in finding out exactly what's happening right there because the word that we're getting is that somebody in that type of high-tech field, that kind of engineer, should be able to find something right away."

    Obama does not realize that it is not so simple to "find something right away" in this economy.

    We have been shipping high-tech jobs overseas at a blistering pace. The jobs simply are not there anymore.

    In Europe, unemployment is even worse. Just check out this chart which shows what has been happening to youth unemployment in Europe recently.

    In both the United States and Europe, a great disconnect has taken place. Just because big corporations in the U.S. and in Europe are doing well, that does not mean that they are going to provide good jobs for workers in the U.S. and in Europe.

    These days, it is way too easy for big corporations to ship jobs over to places like China where it is perfectly legal to pay workers slave labor wages.

    So unless something changes, that means that from now on there will be chronic structural unemployment problems in the United States.

    That also means that the number of Americans dependent on the government is going to continue to increase.

    And unfortunately, there are signs that the economy is about to experience another downturn. Consumer confidence in the U.S. is falling once again. The Baltic Dry Index, which is often used as a measure of the health of the world economy, has fallen more than 60 percent since October.

    Perhaps most importantly of all, Europe is heading into a recession and several European nations are already experiencing depression-like conditions.

    Considering the fact that half of all global trade involves Europe in some manner, that is not a good thing for us.

    So if you have a job right now, you might want to hold on to it tightly. Jobs are precious commodities at the moment, and they are going to become even more scarce in the years ahead.
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    How does China plan on countering the inevitable 4-2-1 problem? Why are we trusting the list inofitself when we know things like the volume of Chinese research papers are often predicated upon fabrications? Citing a raw number of papers is misleading. Additionally, the list cites an explosion in Chinese energy demands as a good thing on its self, but this carries with it the additional onus of a world that is fast realizing that fossil fuels are not a sustainable model and what alternative energy is going to supply China's mammoth need? Convieniently excluded from the list is one of the great strengths of the United States most often forgotten or neglected, agriculture. As the Chinese middle class and even rural poor become more and more affluent we have seen a corresponding rise in caloric demands, particularly for meat and dairy products. Huge amounts of that comes from the United States

    Is China on the rise? Most certainly, and will continue to be so for the forseeable future. I sincerely doubt that the US is anywhere near the doom and gloom projection this blog seeks to push.
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    One thing though: Much of the Chinese economy is reliant on having fat Westerners (mainly the US) importing bulk-produced products. They're symbiotic

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Philp View Post
    One thing though: Much of the Chinese economy is reliant on having fat Westerners (mainly the US) importing bulk-produced products. They're symbiotic
    With the decline in the value of the dollar also comes a decline in the reliance of it, China will simply sell its goods to nations whose currency increases as the dollar decreases. Don't fool yourself into thinking they need the US, it is the other way around. Maybe 20 years ago you could have made that argument. Mary Shelley warned you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevins View Post
    How does China plan on countering the inevitable 4-2-1 problem? Why are we trusting the list inofitself when we know things like the volume of Chinese research papers are often predicated upon fabrications? Citing a raw number of papers is misleading. .
    academic fraud is a problem worldwide, not just in China alone. Plagiarism is as much a problem in the 'publish or perish' environment in most Univerisites today, as much as it is a Chinese problem.

    Regardless, it's not like China's scientific establishment doesn't come up with breakthroughs of its own, especially given the number of patents filed by Chinese research groups.

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    China is 2nd world country and it will stay so for the next 30 years

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    #22 The construction of the new $200 million African Union headquarters was funded by China.
    Of course, the lack of American Pork financing of the blood sucking African Union, founded in part by Democrat Muhamar Al-Gaddafi, is a sign of decline. The USA should fund more overpaid dictator meetings places.

    That is a damn long list, but in a gist it is overreaction because :

    1- China is going to grow more than the US for some time because not long ago, China sucked so much it was an over-sized Burkina Faso. Just building up improvements to catch up with Taiwan or France will generate a hell lot of growth.

    2- A lot of the loss of jobs in manufacturing is due to productivity, and also to Unions and other political factors. can't blame china for that.

    3- China dominate a good share (by volume) of international goods consumed because they target the low end market, like $1 plastic slippers I see in streets of African cities, cheap Huawei phones, and other cheap consumer goods. I don't think that the US really want to pay people $100 a month to produce these, and the investment in machinery to rival with this cheap labor would be just too great ... but if the US do it, I am sure the 2 billions poorest people on the world who buy these goods won't mind as long as it is as cheap as today.

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    How does China plan on countering the inevitable 4-2-1 problem?
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    Consider China has three times more population than US it is understandable it would become larger economical body than US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Consider China has three times more population than US it is understandable it would become larger economical body than US.
    The most simple of facts often makes the most sense.

    Still...

    Quote Originally Posted by Glista View Post
    China is 2nd world country and it will stay so for the next 30 years
    Has to be said.

    In fact, China will remain 2nd world if it wants to remain a manufacturing powerhouse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Scott
    If I remember correctly, the rate of upper class Chinese immigration to the US has increased something like 500% in the last 3-4 years. The government in China is trying to curb this emigration of money and brains. But the issue is that they're leaving, not necessarily because there's not enough money in China, but because the American suburbias and cities are cleaner, safer, and have more opportunities for education for their kids. But it's a well known fact that the US has a massive net gain in immigration from China.
    I have read similar figures.

    Why is this happening? Because once people reach a certain level of education/economic success they start rabble rousing for rights and freedoms and other things Bejing finds distateful because it is "un-Chinese". With peaceful opposition to the irongrip of the Chinese security apparatus being pointless, it's easier to just move. Often, the Chinese government has no choice but to let these minds (people that would be upstanding, desireable citizens in, say...the US) leave, with the high-profile case of Chen Guangcheng being only an example.

    This ties in with Glista's point. Being truly a first-world country is pretty hard without being a Democracy.
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    #26 There are more pigs in China than in the next 43 pork producing nations combined.
    We're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post

    #26 There are more pigs in China than in the next 43 pork producing nations combined.
    We're doomed.
    Don't fear Citizen of the world, Iran is going to save us from this Haram Porcine threat !
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    Wow more artificial Christmas trees....... You guys are certainly frakked then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by priam11 View Post
    Wow more artificial Christmas trees....... You guys are certainly frakked then.
    Well then if china won't deliver the trees, Canada will get invaded instead. Who needs fake ones when you can get REAL Christmas trees.

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    Thats why the U.S. is moving its military big time to the Asia region.

    The old medieval tactic. When you owe your money lender to much Kill Him.

    Its a known fact that China has weapons of mass destruction and we know what that leads to! he he.

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    when was this list published?
    #20 China now possesses the fastest supercomputer on the entire planet.
    was* tianhe-1 had the top slot for about 6 months before the japanese came out with a faster supercomputer. Still, this demonstrates that the Chinese are taking supercomputing seriously, especially with a couple more supercomputers due to come online later this yr as well as the next.

    finally, so what?
    so what if China is 'absolutely destroying America' in terms of economic and technological prowess? Are the Chinese going to turn their technology against the US? ie war?
    no.
    so quit worrying over something that aint going to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie View Post
    Thats why the U.S. is moving its military big time to the Asia region.

    The old medieval tactic. When you owe your money lender to much Kill Him.

    Its a known fact that China has weapons of mass destruction and we know what that leads to! he he.
    Do you ever make posts that are the results of actual analysis of the real world, or is it just easier to regurgitate Amerophobic conspiracy nonsense?


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    y'know, i never really understood why most US newspapers/media had increased the frequency of anti China reporting and virulence these past 20 months and now i'm starting to get an idea why they're behaving this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevins View Post
    Replacement flashpoint bogeyman after the fall of the USSR. Old school guys in the pentagon who still want their shiny toys need their enemy.
    True, and tragic.

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    *Reads OP*
    *sighs*

    1st Video begins the process of destroying the OP around the 4 min mark. Skip to around 7:35 for the real kicker.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevins View Post
    Replacement flashpoint bogeyman after the fall of the USSR. Old school guys in the pentagon who still want their shiny toys need their enemy.
    or they still remember Korea or Malaysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by selder View Post
    or they still remember Korea or Malaysia
    What, they remember Maoist China? China isn't exactly an open society now but to suggest that they are still ready to fling their screaming hordes across the border is rather silly. What happened (as outlined by Barnett in one of his book, the guy doing the presentation in the youtube clips above) is that following the collapse of the USSR enormous sections of the US defense industry lost their reason to exist. You don't need large fleets of nuke subs and F-22s to do humanitarian work in Somalia, which seemed to be the future of US operations. Recognizing this, they turned to the up and coming power in the world, China, exxagerated their capabilities and what we would need to counter that and the checks kept coming. This is why we spend the entirety of the 90s building a high tech whiz bang military and then using it to fight large scale insurgencies and the public was left wondering why we had all the wrong tools.
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