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    Default Canada... We Hold All The Cards Now

    You hear that world... we Canadians can kill 50% of your species if we want... oh and apparently were going to

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canad...172311637.html




    A prominent NASA scientist penned a provocative column in the New York Times Thursday, suggesting the end of civilization could be nigh, thanks to Alberta's 'tar sands.' "Global warming isn't a prediction. It is happening. That is why I was so troubled to read a recent interview with President Obama in Rolling Stone in which he said that Canada would exploit the oil in its vast tar sands reserves 'regardless of what we do,'" climatologist James Hanson wrote.
    "If we were to fully exploit this new oil source, and continue to burn our conventional oil, gas and coal supplies...twenty to 50 percent of the planet's species would be driven to extinction. Civilization would be at risk."
    Hansen, who has directed the NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies for nearly three decades, has published numerous articles on the subject of climate change.
    In recent year's he's become an activist, once getting arrested at a White House protest against mountaintop coal mining.
    His solution to stop Canada's 'exploitation' of the oil sands is for the U.S. government to introduce a different kind of cap and trade system.
    "We should impose a gradually rising carbon fee, collected from fossil fuel companies, then distribute 100 percent of the collections to all Americans on a per-capita basis every month. The government would not get a penny," he wrote.
    "Most Americans, except the heaviest energy users, would get more back than they paid in increased prices. Not only that, the reduction in oil use resulting from the carbon price would be nearly six times as great as the oil supply from the proposed pipeline from Canada, rendering the [Keystone] pipeline superfluous, according to economic models driven by a slowly rising carbon price."
    This isn't the first time Hansen has weighed-in on the oil sands, but his musings comes on the heels of a parliamentary report suggesting Canada won't meet its emission targets - a report, which made it on to the New York Times website, on Tuesday.



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    Why are we sending our oil to these people?
    Last edited by Blaze86420; May 11, 2012 at 08:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze86420 View Post
    We are we sending our oil to these people?
    If you mean Canada, then the answer is no. They have enough oil from their Tar Sands to fuel their entire populace and send the leftovers to us.
    Worst part of trying to express a point is when someone says what you said better and gets praised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Zhang Ku View Post
    If you mean Canada, then the answer is no. They have enough oil from their Tar Sands to fuel their entire populace and send the leftovers to us.
    The plan is to build a pipeline from Alberta to Texas but we also are planning a pipeline that goes to the west coast in British Colombia where oil will be loaded onto tankers and sent to Asia...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Zhang Ku View Post
    If you mean Canada, then the answer is no. They have enough oil from their Tar Sands to fuel their entire populace and send the leftovers to us.
    I mean the US, I'm not American.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreiglord View Post
    The plan is to build a pipeline from Alberta to Texas but we also are planning a pipeline that goes to the west coast in British Colombia where oil will be loaded onto tankers and sent to Asia...
    Yeah, and American environmentalist groups have been lobbying against the project from the moment of its conception and now it's been postponed. It's a waste of time and money that could have been spent on the four refineries that were cancelled a couple of years ago.
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    Oil is the best thing to ever come out of Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    Oil is the best thing to ever come out of Canada.
    Poutine and Billy Talent came out of Canada, those top oil any day.



    However I'm still torn on the oil sands, while it's good for Canada I still really don't like oil as a whole as there are much better energy alternatives that just aren't being looked into. Either way as said above this isn't exactly news (though it might be in America but even then I doubt it) as it has been in and out of the headlines for some time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    Oil is the best thing to ever come out of Canada.
    How about Alanis morissete?

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    Can we just invade canada and get it over with?

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    We culturally and economically invaded Canada decades ago. No military action was even needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    We culturally and economically invaded Canada decades ago. No military action was even needed.
    Justin Bieber, your argument is invalid. We can start a nation-wide female teen riot at the snap of a finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze86420 View Post
    Justin Bieber, your argument is invalid. We can start a nation-wide female teen riot at the snap of a finger.
    Who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    Who?
    All the better, you'll never see it coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze86420 View Post
    All the better, you'll never see it coming.
    What do you know, Canadian? WHERE ARE THE SLEEPER CELLS?!?!

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    Consider Canada is second largest oil-reserve country it probably means US would need to do something about Canada one day.
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    I love how nobody ever predicts new species evolving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    I love how nobody ever predicts new species evolving.
    That usually takes longer than it's hypothesised that global warming will be killing them.

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    Hansen is a wack job of sorts, so this is not an expected thing for him to get all frothy about.
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    New York Times: Not a reliable news source. Rolling Stones: Not a reliable news source.

    That's what I wipe my ass with when I read Sports Illustrated leisurely on the toilet...

    Bad science is bad science. Col. Tartleton scoffs at alarmist leftist NASA climatologists trying to get more funding...
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    The debate of whether develop the oil sand of Canada has been continuing for several decades, so you don't need New York Times to point that out.
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