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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...KFU_story.html

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...gh-school.html

    So Romney bullied a kid in high school. His apology was pathetic, to say the least, he could have been more honest and a little bit more contrite about being a bully.

    I know people do stupid stuff in high school, but bullies at that age can often stay bullies for a lifetime. While it might not say much about his character now, it certainly says a lot with the way he responded now. Especially given the many instances of bullying of gay kids who are coming out in increasing numbers, he could've really said something a bit stronger against bullying, regardless of his thoughts on homosexuality.

    Also, it's one thing to do "stupid stuff" in high school, like do drugs or drink alcohol in excess or take stupid risks in general, but it's another to do mean spirited things to hurt others for your own enjoyment. I think one is pretty usual, the other is despicable and much more harmful.

    If Romney had done any sort of actual apology that showed he understood the impact of his actions, I wouldn't care, but it shows he has no idea still, that he is clueless.

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    Survival of the fittest. Get over it, it is the evolutionary process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb View Post
    Survival of the fittest. Get over it, it is the evolutionary process.
    Might does not make right. It only proves who in that moment was stronger. Just because you can have your way with other people does not mean it can be justified in any sort of actual moral setting.

    Saying that "all the kids do it," or that "we all did it before," does not justify reprehensible behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb View Post
    Survival of the fittest. Get over it, it is the evolutionary process.
    Didn't Republicans deny the existence of Evolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb View Post
    Survival of the fittest. Get over it, it is the evolutionary process.
    You're a creationist, I thought you believed in good-will towards men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb View Post
    Survival of the fittest. Get over it, it is the evolutionary process.
    Denies evolution fervently.

    Has no problem invoking social darwinism.

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    If I was an American I wouldn't really care who Romeny bullied in highschool, I'd be worrying about the middle and lower classes he wants to beat into submission.

    Survival of the fittest? Nice, especially coming from a Christian who's supposed to be against Social Darwinism.

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    If I was an American I wouldn't really care who Romeny bullied in highschool, I'd be worrying about the middle and lower classes he wants to beat into submission.
    Americans might draw the connection.

    Survival of the fittest? Nice, especially coming from a Christian who's supposed to be against Social Darwinism.
    Exactly. Though it's more like survival of the most hateful and ignorant in this instance. Fitness has nothing to do with it.

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    Exactly. Though it's more like survival of the most hateful and ignorant in this instance. Fitness has nothing to do with it.
    Does the alpha wolf get the ladies and rule the pack by being a kind hearted pup who gives out free meat to his underlings? No. No the alpha wolf does not.

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    Does the alpha wolf get the ladies and rule the pack by being a kind hearted pup who gives out free meat to his underlings? No. No the alpha wolf does not.
    Our society, thankfully, isn't built on a wolf pack mentality. We have been able to develop much more complex and sophisticated societies than wolves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthias View Post
    Our society, thankfully, isn't built on a wolf pack mentality. We have been able to develop much more complex and sophisticated societies than wolves.
    Obviously not. Still dog eat dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb View Post
    Obviously not. Still dog eat dog.
    Well, you definitely got us there chief!

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    Does the alpha wolf get the ladies and rule the pack by being a kind hearted pup who gives out free meat to his underlings? No. No the alpha wolf does not.
    Wolves are highly social pack animals. Lone wolves ostracised from a pack generally starve to death.

    So I guess your metaphor is appropriate. Bullies in our societies are cowards, ostracised by their peers and left to fail in life. Hill billy bravado will only get you so far.

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    Yeah, now I'm really confused ,why are you comparing humans to animals?

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    Because humans are animals...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb View Post
    Because humans are animals...?
    Human psychology is far different than those of other animals, except for their closest relatives, the apes. If we were the same as a cow why do we eat them and they don't eat us? We are the same in a biological sense, in that we are all made up of cells and have similar body structures and originate from the same ancestor. But to say that we can also say that we are the same as a tree, or a rock, as everything on Earth were originally made from some supernova. We can do virtually anything, given time. But technically a chicken can as well but that is simply not acceptible as they will have to undergo very extreme mutations during the evolution of a gazillion years to have brains nearly as advanced as ours. If we are the same as elephants. why is it that we can hunt them and use their tusks as ivory? Can't they do anything on their own? No they can't. They stomp us, we shoot them. In the end the brain is the ultimate weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb View Post
    Because humans are animals...?
    Humans don't even practice natural selection. Did you skip high school biology?

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    Team Obama is getting desesperate if this is the kind of things they want to attack Romney on ... what about the Economy, Gas Prices and Iran ? Maybe we talk about pipelines ?

    Romney is going to win because Romney Is Not Obama or RINO for short.

    Funny that this is coming from the people who didn't wanted to ask for Obama college transcripts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    Team Obama is getting desesperate if this is the kind of things they want to attack Romney on ... what about the Economy, Gas Prices and Iran ? Maybe we talk about pipelines
    No evidence that Obama's team did this. The media loves stories like these in general, so blame the profit motive, heh, capitalism is hurting Romney That or a third party that supports Obama and is trying to tear down Romney through this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb View Post
    Because humans are animals...?
    Lol, so not only are a Social Darwinist but also an evolutionist, you Republicans are full of surprises. Yeah, we did evolve from animals, emphasis on the word evolve, as in we no longer do fun things like cannibalism, run around nude, incest etc. A Christian making this comparison is funny, I thought God gave mankind intelligence and morals making them distinct from the rest of his creatures? Or does that change when it's convenient?

    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    Team Obama is getting desesperate if this is the kind of things they want to attack Romney on ... what about the Economy, Gas Prices and Iran ? Maybe we talk about pipelines ?
    Yeah, I don't think it's in Romney's best interest for the Obama admin to start talking about Romney's policies; those are his real disasters not this petty high school story.

    Romney is going to win because Romney Is Not Obama or RINO for short.
    Can I quote you on this?
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