Loot after battles

[steelwarrior7]

Hi,

I would love to gain a good portion of loot after battles - depending on size of armies and their quality - this would help especially early on and small factions and would be a great motivation boost for fighting many battles ;-)

[ur-Lord Tedric]

Hi,

I would love to gain a good portion of loot after battles - depending on size of armies and their quality - this would help especially early on and small factions and would be a great motivation boost for fighting many battles ;-)

There is no such mechanism - and there is more than enough money anyway.

[steelwarrior7]

I thought there is a submod or so for RTW where one gets money for battles - I do not remember exactly where - it is more a motivation I believe then needing more money - except for very small factions there it could help - also defenses with high losses would be more motivating like for Rome the greek city ;-)

[dvk901]

There is a 'Looting' bonus given with the trait 'Despoiler' in RS2, but it is only given to Barbarians and Nomads, and it is only gained by enslaving or exterminating populations. There is, as far as I know, no other way to directly award money for a regular battle just out in the open. It would make sense, mind you...it's just that RTW offers no mechanism, as was mentioned.

[Primo]

Senate gifts? but that would involve creating a faction only for this..

Impossible, even with a senate faction.

There is, as far as I know, no other way to directly award money for a regular battle just out in the open. It would make sense, mind you...it's just that RTW offers no mechanism, as was mentioned.

Well, you could award certain amounts of money if a faction wins a battle - the amount depending on the odds; it would have to be linked to the trait system, with a faction leader trait activating the money script.

However, you can get 1:2 odds in a big battle with over 10000 men; or your generals bodyguards against a small rebel brigande. Using this method would give the same award for winning one of these two battles - highly unrealistic.

Thats as close as it can get with RTW engine.

[Ferdiad]

There is a 'Looting' bonus given with the trait 'Despoiler' in RS2, but it is only given to Barbarians and Nomads, and it is only gained by enslaving or exterminating populations. There is, as far as I know, no other way to directly award money for a regular battle just out in the open. It would make sense, mind you...it's just that RTW offers no mechanism, as was mentioned.

You could implement a looting script. Here is one from SS. No idea if the RTW engine can do it.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

;============ G5 LOOTING SCRIPT COMPACT =================
declare_counter small_army
declare_counter medium_army
declare_counter large_army
declare_counter battle_no
set_counter small_army 0
set_counter medium_army 0
set_counter large_army 0
set_counter battle_no 0

monitor_event BattleConflictPhaseCommenced FactionIsLocal

	if I_BattleEnemyArmyNumberOfUnits < 9
	and I_BattleEnemyArmyNumberOfUnits > 2
		set_counter small_army 1
	end_if

	if I_BattleEnemyArmyNumberOfUnits > 8
	and I_BattleEnemyArmyNumberOfUnits < 15
		set_counter medium_army 1
	end_if

	if I_BattleEnemyArmyNumberOfUnits > 14
		set_counter large_army 1
	end_if

	set_counter battle_no 1
end_monitor

monitor_event PostBattle FactionIsLocal
	and WonBattle
	and not I_ConflictType Naval
	and I_CompareCounter battle_no = 1

	if I_CompareCounter small_army = 1
	and RandomPercent > 25
		console_command add_money 50
	end_if

	if I_CompareCounter medium_army = 1
	and RandomPercent > 25
		console_command add_money 100
	end_if

	if I_CompareCounter large_army = 1
	and RandomPercent > 25
		console_command add_money 200
	end_if

;		historic_event sack_ai

	set_counter battle_no 0
end_monitor

monitor_event PostBattle FactionIsLocal
	and not WonBattle
	and not I_ConflictType Naval
	and I_CompareCounter battle_no = 1

	if RandomPercent > 90
		console_command add_money -100
	end_if

	if RandomPercent > 55
		console_command add_money -100
	end_if

	console_command add_money -100

;	historic_event sack_player

	set_counter battle_no 0
end_monitor

[LoGaL]

Senate gifts? but that would involve creating a faction only for this..

[Anthropoid]

It is a shame it is not a possibility in the engine, cause going all the way back to the Iliad and the Odyssey if not before, taking the other guys gear has always been part of the deal after you kill 'em. Plus baggage trains . . . phew the amount of pillage that has been taken by victorious armies in the fields over the centuries. I wouldn't be surprised if it was astronomical.

Course, another way to rationalize it not being in the game engine is this: your troops take it. Letting the troops keep spoils seems to have been a pretty regular thing and a way to motivate them to particularly terrible tasks.

[dvk901]

Interesting. I have no idea if it would work, but I'll have a look at it and see if there are comparable events that would make it work in RTW.
Most of it looks like it would.

[TheDarkKnight]

I never noticed a looting script in SS...Is it always activated?

It definitely makes sense...who would leave all that expensive armor/weapons behind unless they absolutely had to?

[Ferdiad]

I never noticed a looting script in SS...Is it always activated?

It definitely makes sense...who would leave all that expensive armor/weapons behind unless they absolutely had to?

Open the console after a battle. The amount varrys depending on the size of the battle.

[steelwarrior7]

I always get extra cash after battles in SS 6.4 - just check your money before and after a battle...

[Guga]

There is a mod for Eb that works quiet fine and can be adapted to RS:
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...ory-for-EB-1-1

[Smerka]

There is a mod for Eb that works quiet fine and can be adapted to RS:
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...ory-for-EB-1-1

I guess this means it's possible for RS? Whats the the odds that this will be included in RS 2.6?

[GRANTO]

it is in eb alexander ....messages pop up saying that your troops raided the enemy camp and the likes

[dvk901]

If someone would like to try something for me, they could add this to the script in their campaign under the 'Test' section at the end of the script:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

;============ RS2 LOOTING SCRIPT =================
declare_counter horse_army
declare_counter infantry_army
declare_counter settlement_army
declare_counter battle_no
set_counter horse_army 0
set_counter infantry_army 0
set_counter settlement_army 0
set_counter battle_no 0

monitor_event BattleConflictPhaseCommenced FactionIsLocal

	if I_BattleEnemyArmyPercentageOfUnitCategory cavalry > 50.0
	set_counter horse_army 1
	end_if

	if I_BattleEnemyArmyPercentageOfUnitCategory infantry > 50.0
	set_counter infantry_army 1
	end_if

	if I_BattleAiDefendingSettlement
	set_counter settlement_army 1
	end_if

	set_counter battle_no 1
end_monitor

monitor_event PostBattle FactionIsLocal
	and WonBattle
	and not I_ConflictType Naval
	and I_CompareCounter battle_no = 1

	if I_CompareCounter horse_army = 1
	and RandomPercent > 25
		console_command add_money 200
	end_if

	if I_CompareCounter infantry_army = 1
	and RandomPercent > 25
		console_command add_money 100
	end_if

	if I_CompareCounter settlement_army = 1
	and RandomPercent > 25
		console_command add_money 300
	end_if

	set_counter battle_no 0
end_monitor

monitor_event PostBattle FactionIsLocal
	and not WonBattle
	and not I_ConflictType Naval
	and I_CompareCounter battle_no = 1

	if RandomPercent > 90
		console_command add_money -100
	end_if

	if RandomPercent > 55
		console_command add_money -100
	end_if

	console_command add_money -100

	set_counter battle_no 0
end_monitor

This is a very rudimentary version of the idea, because RTW doesn't support a way to identify the size of units. So instead, I've chosen to identify the type of arny your fought. It checks out with no errors, so it should work.

[Primo]

If someone would like to try something for me, they could add this to the script in their campaign under the 'Test' section at the end of the script:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

;============ RS2 LOOTING SCRIPT =================
declare_counter horse_army
declare_counter infantry_army
declare_counter settlement_army
declare_counter battle_no
set_counter horse_army 0
set_counter infantry_army 0
set_counter settlement_army 0
set_counter battle_no 0

monitor_event BattleConflictPhaseCommenced FactionIsLocal

    if I_BattleEnemyArmyPercentageOfUnitCategory cavalry > 50.0
    set_counter horse_army 1
    end_if

    if I_BattleEnemyArmyPercentageOfUnitCategory infantry > 50.0
    set_counter infantry_army 1
    end_if

    if I_BattleAiDefendingSettlement
    set_counter settlement_army 1
    end_if

    set_counter battle_no 1
end_monitor

monitor_event PostBattle FactionIsLocal
    and WonBattle
    and not I_ConflictType Naval
    and I_CompareCounter battle_no = 1

    if I_CompareCounter horse_army = 1
    and RandomPercent > 25
        console_command add_money 200
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter infantry_army = 1
    and RandomPercent > 25
        console_command add_money 100
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter settlement_army = 1
    and RandomPercent > 25
        console_command add_money 300
    end_if

    set_counter battle_no 0
end_monitor

monitor_event PostBattle FactionIsLocal
    and not WonBattle
    and not I_ConflictType Naval
    and I_CompareCounter battle_no = 1

    if RandomPercent > 90
        console_command add_money -100
    end_if

    if RandomPercent > 55
        console_command add_money -100
    end_if

    console_command add_money -100

    set_counter battle_no 0
end_monitor

This is a very rudimentary version of the idea, because RTW doesn't support a way to identify the size of units. So instead, I've chosen to identify the type of arny your fought. It checks out with no errors, so it should work.

I´ll do it. Do I have to restart the campaign?

[dvk901]

I´ll do it. Do I have to restart the campaign?

I'm not sure, TBH. I don't have that much experience with scripting.

[Visarion]

I'm not sure, TBH. I don't have that much experience with scripting.

[steelwarrior7]

Hey guys great thanks - yes it was EB now I remember ;-)