
Originally Posted by
Matthias
I think being black in America generally means being much more aware of race, because you get a lot more crap for it as a result. No doubt that the black power radio excerpt was just idiocy, and there are bigots everywhere. African Americans are generally more bigoted towards homosexuals than whites, for example, and a lot of it is cultural and historical as things go.
It's not just poor white voters in the south, it's all over in general, and it's also working class white voters. For the poor black voters who do vote, they are voting for their interests, while many poor white voters seem to be voting out of spite. The secret they don't want to reveal is that their economic interests are the same as those who are poor black voters. I think that's what scares many of them to contemplate. So it is better to delude themselves into thinking the US is some sort of God's land, and they are God's people. The funny thing is, poor black people are generally very religious as well, so religion only explains part of it. I just find it funny how anyone knows they are voting for God, or what party God wants to win.
I think the difference in the videos is pretty obvious enough (besides being a snapshot of stereotypes). The poor white people are idealistic to a T. They really believe America is the best place on Earth, and that it can do no wrong, etc. etc. The poor black people in the video are extremely cynical. They have no vested interest in America and don't think America wants them to be part of it regardless, so they just don't care. Not really surprising given history and even present circumstances. One side thinks the system is stacked against them, the other thinks degenerates (sometimes in racial/cultural tones) are corrupting the perfect, immaculate system. It's cynicism vs wide-eyed idealism.
I think it's pretty obvious who has it right, IMHO. There are quite a few facts and figures that show the US is no meritocracy and that it has lower economic mobility than those crazy Euro socialists. If you are born poor, you will very likely stay poor, etc. etc. Being black only stacks the odds higher. And cynicism at least requires some critical thinking, whereas the faith-based sort of blind idealism on the other hand only requires a suspension of critical thinking and not looking at facts and evidence.
It's much easier to be idealistic when you are white and poor rather than black and poor in that sense, and there is a sort of religion to American patriotism on the right that comforts and feeds the ego of people who would otherwise be quite cynical themselves. Their image of themselves and their country is shiny, if not unrealistic.
Pelosi does the usual lazy false equivalencies I'm so used to, and Bill, to his credit, does try to tease out some of the differences and the reasons they exist.