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    Only two of the people in the photo, far in the back, are clearly African-American, far below their 13 percent of the national population, and their 33-percent representation in Chicago.
    “Were I the general counsel of an employer in Chicago with the workforce in the picture … I would be concerned,” said Charles Shanor, a law professor at Emory University and the former general counsel at the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission.
    “The workforce is overwhelmingly made up of young white males [and is] a demographic profile that could raise red flags under both Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Age Discrimination in Employment Act,” he told TheDC.
    If asked by managers, “‘Do we run a risk of legal liability?’ I would say ‘Sure,’” if a company’s picture showed only two African-Americans in a staff of 100, said Northeastern University’s Roger Abrams, a left-of-center law professor and former dean of the Rutgers School of Law.
    Skewed hiring happens, Abrams told TheDC, because “people are simply not aware of what they’re doing … [or that] the racism, the sexism, the discrimination on the basis of other grounds, are just a way of life.”

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    Oh God who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Oh God who cares.
    You know, I'd have had that sentiment if not for listening to black power radio on Sirius. One stupid ass radio host actually suggested boycotting the town of Sanford over the Trayvon Martin issue and then later suggested that the new Sanford police chief, who apparently is from somewhere in Colorado, doesn't have enough experience with black folks being from a predominantly white state. Cause you know... black people have to be handled with care apart from every other ing human being in the USA. There is a large segment of the black population in the US where race is their life.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    There is a large segment of the black population in the US where race is their life.
    I don't know if that is true. I mean it is always present, but not in the forefront even in the worst neighborhoods in this country. Many of which are here in Chicago.

    I think it is more of an issue in who they see as continuing their ability to leech off of welfare. Which most of the time isn't terribly accurate. Obama hasn't done anything to increase that any more than Bush did - which was basically nothing.

    So you have poor white voters in the South continuing to vote for Republicans who do not have their best interests at heart - and poor black voters all over who continue to vote for the Democrats because they feel they do a better job addressing their needs, when there is very little tangible evidence of that happening over Republicans.


    Relevant part starts at 4:40



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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    You know, I'd have had that sentiment if not for listening to black power radio on Sirius. One stupid ass radio host actually suggested boycotting the town of Sanford over the Trayvon Martin issue and then later suggested that the new Sanford police chief, who apparently is from somewhere in Colorado, doesn't have enough experience with black folks being from a predominantly white state. Cause you know... black people have to be handled with care apart from every other ing human being in the USA. There is a large segment of the black population in the US where race is their life.
    I think being black in America generally means being much more aware of race, because you get a lot more crap for it as a result. No doubt that the black power radio excerpt was just idiocy, and there are bigots everywhere. African Americans are generally more bigoted towards homosexuals than whites, for example, and a lot of it is cultural and historical as things go.

    So you have poor white voters in the South continuing to vote for Republicans who do not have their best interests at heart - and poor black voters all over who continue to vote for the Democrats because they feel they do a better job addressing their needs, when there is very little tangible evidence of that happening over Republicans.
    It's not just poor white voters in the south, it's all over in general, and it's also working class white voters. For the poor black voters who do vote, they are voting for their interests, while many poor white voters seem to be voting out of spite. The secret they don't want to reveal is that their economic interests are the same as those who are poor black voters. I think that's what scares many of them to contemplate. So it is better to delude themselves into thinking the US is some sort of God's land, and they are God's people. The funny thing is, poor black people are generally very religious as well, so religion only explains part of it. I just find it funny how anyone knows they are voting for God, or what party God wants to win.

    I think the difference in the videos is pretty obvious enough (besides being a snapshot of stereotypes). The poor white people are idealistic to a T. They really believe America is the best place on Earth, and that it can do no wrong, etc. etc. The poor black people in the video are extremely cynical. They have no vested interest in America and don't think America wants them to be part of it regardless, so they just don't care. Not really surprising given history and even present circumstances. One side thinks the system is stacked against them, the other thinks degenerates (sometimes in racial/cultural tones) are corrupting the perfect, immaculate system. It's cynicism vs wide-eyed idealism.

    I think it's pretty obvious who has it right, IMHO. There are quite a few facts and figures that show the US is no meritocracy and that it has lower economic mobility than those crazy Euro socialists. If you are born poor, you will very likely stay poor, etc. etc. Being black only stacks the odds higher. And cynicism at least requires some critical thinking, whereas the faith-based sort of blind idealism on the other hand only requires a suspension of critical thinking and not looking at facts and evidence.

    It's much easier to be idealistic when you are white and poor rather than black and poor in that sense, and there is a sort of religion to American patriotism on the right that comforts and feeds the ego of people who would otherwise be quite cynical themselves. Their image of themselves and their country is shiny, if not unrealistic.

    Pelosi does the usual lazy false equivalencies I'm so used to, and Bill, to his credit, does try to tease out some of the differences and the reasons they exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthias View Post
    I think being black in America generally means being much more aware of race, because you get a lot more crap for it as a result. No doubt that the black power radio excerpt was just idiocy, and there are bigots everywhere. African Americans are generally more bigoted towards homosexuals than whites, for example, and a lot of it is cultural and historical as things go.



    It's not just poor white voters in the south, it's all over in general, and it's also working class white voters. For the poor black voters who do vote, they are voting for their interests, while many poor white voters seem to be voting out of spite. The secret they don't want to reveal is that their economic interests are the same as those who are poor black voters. I think that's what scares many of them to contemplate. So it is better to delude themselves into thinking the US is some sort of God's land, and they are God's people. The funny thing is, poor black people are generally very religious as well, so religion only explains part of it. I just find it funny how anyone knows they are voting for God, or what party God wants to win.

    I think the difference in the videos is pretty obvious enough (besides being a snapshot of stereotypes). The poor white people are idealistic to a T. They really believe America is the best place on Earth, and that it can do no wrong, etc. etc. The poor black people in the video are extremely cynical. They have no vested interest in America and don't think America wants them to be part of it regardless, so they just don't care. Not really surprising given history and even present circumstances. One side thinks the system is stacked against them, the other thinks degenerates (sometimes in racial/cultural tones) are corrupting the perfect, immaculate system. It's cynicism vs wide-eyed idealism.

    I think it's pretty obvious who has it right, IMHO. There are quite a few facts and figures that show the US is no meritocracy and that it has lower economic mobility than those crazy Euro socialists. If you are born poor, you will very likely stay poor, etc. etc. Being black only stacks the odds higher. And cynicism at least requires some critical thinking, whereas the faith-based sort of blind idealism on the other hand only requires a suspension of critical thinking and not looking at facts and evidence.

    It's much easier to be idealistic when you are white and poor rather than black and poor in that sense, and there is a sort of religion to American patriotism on the right that comforts and feeds the ego of people who would otherwise be quite cynical themselves. Their image of themselves and their country is shiny, if not unrealistic.

    Pelosi does the usual lazy false equivalencies I'm so used to, and Bill, to his credit, does try to tease out some of the differences and the reasons they exist.

    If you furiously punched it onto your keyboard, then it must be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayle View Post
    If you furiously punched it onto your keyboard, then it must be true.
    I love the idea that people think they know how much harder it is to be black than anything else. There are just so many factors that go into the ability to succeed that singling out race as a significant one is simply laughable. But then, these are usually the same people that will tell you everyone, including you, is racist. Even if it's subconscious. But not them, they've got it all figured out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayle View Post
    If you furiously punched it onto your keyboard, then it must be true.
    I didn't furiously punch it into my keyboard, I lightly tapped it in, merrily even! What does that mean? Seriously, not sure where you're seeing anger?

    I guess we'd hafta understand bells critical race theory. Whatver the f that is.
    No, it would mean you would have to use critical thinking and look at the context of the quote. Hard work, I know...

    Now, go get the context of the quote, come back here, and post the meaning of it. If you don't, well, I'll know why, it's because it doesn't fit your narrative you want to push.

    I love the idea that people think they know how much harder it is to be black than anything else. There are just so many factors that go into the ability to succeed that singling out race as a significant one is simply laughable. But then, these are usually the same people that will tell you everyone, including you, is racist. Even if it's subconscious. But not them, they've got it all figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    You know, I'd have had that sentiment if not for listening to black power radio on Sirius. One stupid ass radio host actually suggested boycotting the town of Sanford over the Trayvon Martin issue and then later suggested that the new Sanford police chief, who apparently is from somewhere in Colorado, doesn't have enough experience with black folks being from a predominantly white state. Cause you know... black people have to be handled with care apart from every other ing human being in the USA. There is a large segment of the black population in the US where race is their life.
    You got all that from an American shock jock? Or do fringe poorly produced American radio stations now represent the view of all marginalised Americans? And why tf are you listening to black power radio on Sirius?

    *get in car
    *turn to Black Power Radio
    *pull down cap over head and lean as much as you can to the right

    Talk me through how that happens.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    You got all that from an American shock jock? Or do fringe poorly produced American radio stations now represent the view of all marginalised Americans? And why tf are you listening to black power radio on Sirius?

    *get in car
    *turn to Black Power Radio
    *pull down cap over head and lean as much as you can to the right

    Talk me through how that happens.
    Your whiteness is appalling. Pull your hat down low? WTF? Should I pull a comb out and slick my hair back and roll up the short sleeves on my white t shirt?

    FYI you wear your hat high and brim flat.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsunegari View Post
    At least there is a 0.5 black man in the room when the boss visits.

    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Oh God who cares.
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    Today, President Barack Obama signed an Executive Order (EO) titled "Establishing a Coordinated Government-Wide Initiative to Promote Diversity and Inclusion in the Federal Workforce." It will promote the federal workplace as a model of equal employment opportunity, diversity, and inclusion
    To Obama's credit, diversity has more to do with the political destruction of Republicans than actual diversity.
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    The people that analyzed the picture like that are the racist ones. Seriously, who the cares...


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    Quote Originally Posted by mindOverdrive View Post
    The people that analyzed the picture like that are the racist ones. Seriously, who the cares...
    That. I saw the pic and saw a happy workforce. I didn't even THINK to look for color. All people seem the same to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindOverdrive View Post
    The people that analyzed the picture like that are the racist ones. Seriously, who the cares...
    For real. I will never understand people who look at EVERYTHING through a racial lense. I feel sorry for them.

    I don't like this president or his policies, but this is just stupid.
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    So Obama's campaign staff is made up of Hipsters?

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    This is retarded.

    Who cares what race the employees are? They should be hired because of their ability/performance, not because of their ethnicity/gender.

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    The black youth of Chicago have already had their political naivety crushed by the real world. Good to see some suburban, hipster, white and Asian youths will get to as well.

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    So it seems such madness has spread to the USA too then. People should be hired on meritocratic grounds, not racial or sexual....when will people learn...
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    It's been here for a long time already. Only it's usually pushed more by the left than anyone else. I guess the idea here is that there should be a sense of hypocrisy or irony. Whatever, it's retarded.
    Last edited by s.rwitt; May 07, 2012 at 12:55 PM.

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    Obama must be a remarkable president if this is the best his political opponents can come up with.

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