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    The AI really isn't THAT bad
    Yes, yes it is. The AI in CoH is terrible if you're actually good at the game and played against human opponents.

    If not the AI then what dictates the play style? Meta-gamers?
    Exactly. The people who are skilled at the game should, because those are the people who play it and understand it the best.

    I really don't understand your objection to base building in CoH. It's a tiny fraction of the overall game, and it essentially serves as nothing more than your tech tree.

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    Default Re: Company of Heroes 2 confirmed.

    CoH isn't a simulation. Base building serves as a tech tree first, production center second. Map control is what CoH was designed around, hence strategic points being a thing. You don't get resources from them, they simply connect resource-rich points to your hq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkArk View Post
    Yes, yes it is. The AI in CoH is terrible if you're actually good at the game and played against human opponents.
    Never did actually play online, I mostly just did the story mode and occasional skirmish battles.


    I really don't understand your objection to base building in CoH. It's a tiny fraction of the overall game, and it essentially serves as nothing more than your tech tree.
    I just don't like it and it seems unnecessary so I was just saying I hope it's toned down in number 2. Personal preference.
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    Default Re: Company of Heroes 2 confirmed.

    If you toned down base building in COH there would be no base to build

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    Precisely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexanderswift View Post
    Precisely.
    then go play Dawn of war 2, i like my base building. You would detest Supreme Commander 1/FA

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    Default Re: Company of Heroes 2 confirmed.

    Why are you guys breaking up posts into quotes and addressing individual points debate-style...over personal preference?
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    Company of Heroes is the only base building RTS games that i would actually play.
    Apart from Dawn of War 2 (and 1) when you had the skirmish battles or whatever.

    The 2 series' are the only ones that do it for me in that style. After playing Ground Control, base builders just started to do less and less for me until i found CoH and DoW.

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    I hope the first part of the campaign would be playing as the Germans invading Russia.

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    Default Re: Company of Heroes 2 confirmed.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexanderswift View Post
    The AI really isn't THAT bad, predictable yes. But not that bad. If not the AI then what dictates the play style? Meta-gamers?
    The AI is absolutely atrocious in CoH. It simply cannot handle the advanced mechanics introduced by CoH, such as flanking, directional weaponry and pressuring cut off points. OT: My least favorite part of DoW2 was the lack of cut off points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevins View Post
    The AI is absolutely atrocious in CoH. It simply cannot handle the advanced mechanics introduced by CoH, such as flanking, directional weaponry and pressuring cut off points. OT: My least favorite part of DoW2 was the lack of cut off points.
    When I played CoH single player I used to go against 3 hard opponents on a large map just to keep it interesting.

    I have to concur the AI was just awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    When I played CoH single player I used to go against 3 hard opponents on a large map just to keep it interesting.

    I have to concur the AI was just awful.

    I have to disagree the AI a lot of times kick my ass i have to watch over my team like always or they will get owned most of the time.


    I find artillery very useful set it up near bases and just fire at anything that poses a threat

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    ^That's because the AI cheats.
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    I've always found it to be pretty good tbh. Then again I mostly play the campaign which has a lot of scripted encounters.
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    Default Re: Company of Heroes 2 confirmed.

    The AI is incredibly easy to overcome, even with the recent AI boosting patches. The game was designed for multiplayer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toph View Post
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    That quote is a classic

    Oh yes, definitely, there are some amusing idle talk between squad members.

    I heard the British are carrying umbrellas to stop their snipers from killing them.
    They call this operation Market Garden; where do they come up with all these names?
    I heard this invasion is Montgomery's plan, I expect we should win a quick victory
    Don't get captured by the Canadians, they are savages.
    Do you have a cigarette? My oppa says they're bad for me, but I believe Tommy's bullets are worse.
    Panzergrenadier (idle)

    We're now in peak shape for ass kicking.
    Panzergrenadier achieving max veterancy

    You're paid to kill, not dig trenches with your face!
    Grenadiers recovering from suppression

    We've captured the point, but you know they're coming back!
    Grenadiers capturing a point after a prolonged engagement

    You get in, or you're walking back to Berlin, Müller.
    Grenadiers loading onto a halftrack:

    Nice to know you can just throw my life away for a little gas!
    Grenadiers capturing fuel point under heavy fire

    Listen up lads, the armchair general has some words of wisdom for us.
    British Lieutenant (annoyed)

    Although prepared for martyrdom, I'd prefer it to be postponed.
    British soldier (idle)
    here some more

    Schwimmwagen
    "Armor? We're a Schwimmwagen, not a 88's"
    VolksGrenadier
    We got mp40 try not to shoot each other...

    You think this is Kinderparty? Get a goddamn move on!

    You think you can get a tip for dropping us off in combat?!

    When it clicking like that, you have to reload...

    Take that building but no looting damn it!

    They must have raided the Hilfschule to find you replacements
    MG Gunners
    Pin those ****head down!

    HURRY PACK THE ING THING!

    MG, Getting our asses kicked!
    Grenadier

    Smell like Volk Grenadier Here.

    ARE YOU GONNA FIRE THAT PANZERFUAST OR ARE YOU GONNA PLAY WITH IT?

    Haha! American Panzer destroyed.

    Grenadier this is a real ****storm fall back!

    Hey new guy better not it up.

    I DON"T WANNA DIE IN FRRAAAANNNNCCCCEEEE!!!
    Stormtroopers

    We assault their base and pepper their asses.

    IT A WAR! IM ING BUSY!

    WHAT THE IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?!

    GET IT TOGETHER !

    YOU"RE STARTING TO PISS ME OFF!

    It an American tank. So small, No?

    Spray that position, I want them to be *****ing lead!

    Attack Halmut. Your pimples are tougher then these Yankees
    German officer
    We will have victory....I command it!

    Increase production now....Or I shoot you!

    War is a serious matter. YOU!

    THEY CANNOT KILL ME! I must remember that....

    ****ty American, I'll put them in a pot

    I AM STEEL! OH ***!

    Damn, they fight like gangster.

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    Well, the AI at least capped points tenaciously so it was actually better than many players, specially those who after 20 minutes become brain dead

    All you needed to do versus the AI was using machine guns and AT guns, and watch out for mortars. Since it didn´t flank, it was easy prey for those.

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    Voice acting in COH was always great, I loved that it was somewhat dynamic too. I clearly remember once when my Pershing got under fire from a Tiger, how the commander of the tank shouter "Pershing takings hits! It's a TIIIIIGER!"

    Some other fun ones:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    American Engineers:

    Yeah what the F- do you want?

    What. The. F- DO YOU WANT?!

    Damn, that was close, that was too friggin' close!
    British riflemen:

    WHAT. DO. YOU. WANT. SIR?!?!?!

    Now you've done it, we just got orders to move out...
    Bren Carrier:
    If I ever become a captain I'm gonna get myself a poodle...and I'll name it Sir-click-alot...
    (This one I hear after clicking on a Bren carrier for a long time...seems to be very rare, only heard it once).

    American Sniper:

    That's GOT to be worth a medal!
    Jeep:
    Sitting Duc- I, eeh, I mean light recon here!
    Sherman:
    ! That almost got us, status report!
    Pak:
    How is zis tiny shield going to protect us?

    Yah, we'll just hide zis giant gun...
    Volks:
    Volksgrenadiers here...for what it's worth...


    And the list goes on!

    Just found this:

    Some F-bombs in there.

    Some great ones there as well!

    "Jawohl. Attacking their armor, with my rifle..."

    "Get out! Fire at anything. FIRE AT EVERYTHING!!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Border Patrol View Post
    The AI is incredibly easy to overcome, even with the recent AI boosting patches. The game was designed for multiplayer.

    I disagree i think COH has been made more towards Single Player exclusively Skirmish Battles.

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    Default Re: Company of Heroes 2 confirmed.

    If a mouse so much as farts in this minefield I want his ass blown sky high!
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