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    A new low for democracy in this country

    Tue, 01/05/2012 - 11:50Attacks on the British National Party just before elections are nothing new, in fact in our quest to expose the level of corruption, treachery and criminal mismanagement of our political class, we have come to expect them.


    However, yesterday's orchestrated arrest of our Liverpool Mayoral candidate, Clr Mike Whitby, represented a dangerous escalation of the level of persecution directed not just against the BNP but at the British people themselves.


    The intimidation of people signing our nomination papers is also nothing new, it has been going on for years. You might have thought that with a BNP MEP elected in the North West of England with more than 132,000 votes in 2009, the idea that we would struggle to find thirty people to sign our papers was risible. That factual inconvenience hasn't stopped the Liverpool Echo though, as this letter shows, with this latest instalment of its vicious, politically motivated hate campaign against the BNP being part of a protracted campaign.

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    With the sentiments of the above in mind it doesn't take too much of an imagination to step into the minds and motivation of the people from this Mirror-owned newspaper as they confronted residents of Liverpool at their homes in order to interrogate and cross-question them over signing Mike's papers. Not that this treatment was for any other of the mayoral candidates, the harassment and bullying of those daring to facilitate the nomination of the BNP's candidate was a selective and singular privilege.

    Just what was asked of the people of that particular area of Liverpool by the Echo's representatives is unknown, but it is not hard to guess. In an atmosphere where you can quite literally lose your home, job or business for supporting the wrong political party, the Echomen's job will have been made more the easier. In fact when you consider Liverpool Labour Party and the Echo's recent track record, one might have good reason to equate their mission to subvert the democratic process in Liverpool as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    It is about this point when, having acquainted yourselves with the usual desecration of our electoral process you normally sign off feeling outrage at the act itself and sorry for the Nationalist victim. This time however, it is different, very different. The video you are about to see was shot yesterday by Mike Whitby himself graphically detailing the violation of his home in front of his family as the culmination of the organised campaign against him by the local newspaper, Merseyside Police (via North Wales Police) and the Liverpool Labour Party.

    What you are going to witness is not just an attack on Mike and the BNP, but an attack on the freedoms of those who signed his nomination papers and on the right of the people of Liverpool as a whole to have an electoral process that is free, uncontaminated and fair. In fact yesterday's totally unnecessary action against Mike and his family almost epitomises the shocking situation the British people now find themselves in. In what was once a free and happy nation we are now ruled by fear, bullying and deceit.

    If you are curious as just why there is such a determined effort to censor and suppress Mike Whitby and what he has to say to the people of Liverpool you might like to listen to his recent debate on Radio Merseyside that the BBC was compelled by law to broadcast last week.

    Further reading on the perilous state of democracy in Britain can be obtained here (Nick's Russian Article)



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    The Police in this country are getting more and more like their counterparts in Europe, I find it scary


    From this


    To this





    Looks like a madman doesn't he, I bet Peel is rolling in his grave
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    So... source is the BNP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    So... source is the BNP?
    It's been on the media, was arrested, then later released without charge.

    In the process he had two doors smashed in at his home, as you can see from the video, or what it's fake yea?

    The Police are turning into political thugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    So... source is the BNP?
    Sigh, your so pathetic with your arguements, its a home video, its as legit as anything coming from Labour, Con or LibDems which isnt very.
    All you have to do is to decide what to do with the time given to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamson View Post
    Sigh, your so pathetic with your arguements, its a home video, its as legit as anything coming from Labour, Con or LibDems which isnt very.
    Well... no it's not legitimate. It's a video filmed by a BNP member, and then interpreted by the BNP. It took members of this forum a matter of minutes to discover that the BNP was lying about the candidate being released without charge, and also that the police had been requesting that the candidate leave his house willingly for 30 minutes before hand, but was resisting arrest (i.e. breaking the law). So... if you think that's "legit"... well... good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Well... no it's not legitimate. It's a video filmed by a BNP member, and then interpreted by the BNP. It took members of this forum a matter of minutes to discover that the BNP was lying about the candidate being released without charge, and also that the police had been requesting that the candidate leave his house willingly for 30 minutes before hand, but was resisting arrest (i.e. breaking the law). So... if you think that's "legit"... well... good luck to you.
    There are those who say that UKIP and the BNP are alternate cheeks of the same buttocks.

    Nice to see what remaining BNP councillors there are wiped out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Nud View Post
    Would it be un-democratic to ban the BNP?

    *sigh*

    I guess it means we just have to live with a party of Xenophobic racists with no hope of ever having any influence.
    Unfortunately yes. If you ban them it also silences them and it makes it so that they can probably gain followers rather than allowing them to open their mouth and effectively ban themselves.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    In all seriousness they're allowed to dick around. It's England's safety valve. They show us how clownish little England fascism is.
    Yes and that is how you defeat bigotry. Its why hate speech laws are harmful, can you imagine if BNP people didn't have the constant specter of laws that would fine or jail them for inciting racial hatred? They would probably be caught so often using racial slurs alone that people would laugh them out of the public eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Well... no it's not legitimate. It's a video filmed by a BNP member, and then interpreted by the BNP. It took members of this forum a matter of minutes to discover that the BNP was lying about the candidate being released without charge, and also that the police had been requesting that the candidate leave his house willingly for 30 minutes before hand, but was resisting arrest (i.e. breaking the law). So... if you think that's "legit"... well... good luck to you.
    You questioned the situation as if they had people dressed up as the police and staged it, just as long as you arrest some scumbags please arrest the likes of Blair and Brown.

    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    There are those who say that UKIP and the BNP are alternate cheeks of the same buttocks.

    Nice to see what remaining BNP councillors there are wiped out.

    There are also those who say the three main parties are all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamson View Post
    You questioned the situation as if they had people dressed up as the police and staged it, just as long as you arrest some scumbags please arrest the likes of Blair and Brown.
    Well, that's neither here nor there. This BNP candidate is alleged to have committed fraud and the police believe that there is strong enough evidence to charge this man with that. Exactly what do you think is wrong about a man being charged with fraud, and arrested forcibly when he resisted arrest?

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    If it's been in the media can you provide a media source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    If it's been in the media can you provide a media source?
    Google is your friend.

    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/897801-b...lectoral-fraud

    http://www.wrexham.com/elections/loc...ions-6611.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe's Company View Post
    So someone getting arrested and then released on bail is a blow for democracy? If he were still being held, and he were demonstrably innocent, perhaps you would have a point, but people are arrested on suspicion of things all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jom View Post
    So someone getting arrested and then released without charge is a blow for democracy? If he were still being held, and he were demonstrably innocent, perhaps you would have a point, but people are arrested on suspicion of things all the time.
    Yes two days before he is stand for Mayor of Liverpool.

    And if you lived in Liverpool you would of seen the front page of the daily echo with it's front page

    BNP Mayoral Candidate Arrested.

    It is a political motivated attack on the party, it happens all the time, here in stoke we've had the same thing over the past two weeks, Mike Coleman got arrested for 'Racism' but hasn't been charged either, its just for headlines in the local press to demonise the party.

    It's pure propaganda by the state, it devalues democracy, we're getting more and more like East Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe's Company View Post
    Yes two days before he is stand for Mayor of Liverpool.

    And if you lived in Liverpool you would of seen the front page of the daily echo with it's front page

    BNP Mayoral Candidate Arrested.

    It is a political motivated attack on the party, it happens all the time, here in stoke we've had the same thing over the past two weeks, Mike Coleman got arrested for 'Racism' but hasn't been charged either, its just for headlines in the local press to demonise the party.

    It's pure propaganda by the state, it devalues democracy, we're getting more and more like East Germany.
    The local press aren't owned by the state...

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    Okay:

    1) Mike Whitby's door was only broken down when he refused to cooperate with police

    2) He was released yesterday on bail, not without charge.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-17904947

    So this seems like pretty standard law-enforcement to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Okay:

    1) Mike Whitby's door was only broken down when he refused to cooperate with police

    2) He was released yesterday on bail, not without charge.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-17904947

    So this seems like pretty standard law-enforcement to me.
    Oh if the BBC says so.

    Flag this thread back up in a couple of months then, we he answers his bail

    The man's been released without charge, bbc are full of it.
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    So....what...he thought they'd just go away if he didn't let them in?
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    Funnily enough the candidate won't see that headline, since he doesn't live in Liverpool and can only run because he rents a pigeon coop in the city.

    Anyway, the only propaganda here is the lie about him being released without charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Funnily enough the candidate won't see that headline, since he doesn't live in Liverpool and can only run because he rents a pigeon coop in the city.

    Anyway, the only propaganda here is the lie about him being released without charge.
    Mike is a Scouser, he just lives in Wrexham, a stones throw away

    Yea because the BBC always tells us the truth, what source do they have on it?

    Your always asking for a source, does the BBC have one?

    Nah, thought not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe's Company View Post
    Mike is a Scouser, he just lives in Wrexham, a stones throw away
    Wow, you can throw a stone 40.8 miles?!

    Yea because the BBC always tells us the truth, what source do they have on it?
    Det Supt Martin Andrew, of the police.

    Your always asking for a source, does the BBC have one?

    Nah, thought not.
    It's written in the damn article!

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