Page 1 of 5 12345 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 114

Thread: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Sir Pignans's Avatar The bringer of cheese.
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    6,107

    Default Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Netanyahu has legalized another three outposts in the west bank:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17824007
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...posts-1.426382

    Now this just seems ridiculous to me, Israel does make some steps attempting to remove settlers, but then it throws stuff like this. I personally think that should Israel continue with this behaviour more extremist Palestinian factions, such as the radical wing of Hamas (which recently won a victory in Gaza with the election of Haniyeh) and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the upcoming planned Palestinian elections.

    I just don't understand why Israel insists on the need to repeatedly shoot itself in the foot.
    90% of teens would die today if facebook was destroyed. if you are one of the 10% that would be laughing, copy and paste this to your signature.

    My Political Profile.

    Under the patronage of Gertrudius!

  2. #2
    Vanoi's Avatar Dux Limitis
    Civitate

    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, USA
    Posts
    17,003

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    Netanyahu has legalized another three outposts in the west bank:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17824007
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...posts-1.426382

    Now this just seems ridiculous to me, Israel does make some steps attempting to remove settlers, but then it throws stuff like this. I personally think that should Israel continue with this behaviour more extremist Palestinian factions, such as the radical wing of Hamas (which recently won a victory in Gaza with the election of Haniyeh) and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the upcoming planned Palestinian elections.

    I just don't understand why Israel insists on the need to repeatedly shoot itself in the foot.
    And Israel continues to violate the Fourth Geneva Conventions. Nothing new here.

  3. #3
    Grouchio's Avatar Vicarius
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Scarborough, Maine U.S.A
    Posts
    2,809

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    I really do wonder why most americans haven't looked past "It's okay for Isreal to be displacing others! They suffered the Holocaust!" Well let me tell you this:
    (As quoted from Bertrand Russell, 1967)

    "The development of the crisis in the Middle East is both dangerous and instructive. For over 20 years Israel has expanded by force of arms. After every stage in this expansion Israel has appealed to “reason” and has suggested “negotiations”. This is the traditional role of the imperial power, because it wishes to consolidate with the least difficulty what it has already taken by violence. Every new conquest becomes the new basis of the proposed negotiation from strength, which ignores the injustice of the previous aggression. The aggression committed by Israel must be condemned, not only because no state has the right to annexe foreign territory, but because every expansion is an experiment to discover how much more aggression the world will tolerate.

    The refugees who surround Palestine in their hundreds of thousands were described recently by the Washington journalist I.F. Stone as “the moral millstone around the neck of world Jewry.” Many of the refugees are now well into the third decade of their precarious existence in temporary settlements. The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign Power to another people for the creation of a new State. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their number have increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty? It is abundantly clear that the refugees have every right to the homeland from which they were driven, and the denial of this right is at the heart of the continuing conflict. No people anywhere in the world would accept being expelled en masse from their own country; how can anyone require the people of Palestine to accept a punishment which nobody else would tolerate? A permanent just settlement of the refugees in their homeland is an essential ingredient of any genuine settlement in the Middle East.

    We are frequently told that we must sympathize with Israel because of the suffering of the Jews in Europe at the hands of the Nazis. I see in this suggestion no reason to perpetuate any suffering. What Israel is doing today cannot be condoned, and to invoke the horrors of the past to justify those of the present is gross hypocrisy. Not only does Israel condemn a vast number. of refugees to misery; not only are many Arabs under occupation condemned to military rule; but also Israel condemns the Arab nations only recently emerging from colonial status, to continued impoverishment as military demands take precedence over national development.

    All who want to see an end to bloodshed in the Middle East must ensure that any settlement does not contain the seeds of future conflict. Justice requires that the first step towards a settlement must be an Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied in June, 1967. A new world campaign is needed to help bring justice to the long-suffering people of the Middle East."


  4. #4
    Prosaic Visitant's Avatar Domesticus
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Nowhere
    Posts
    2,325

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grouchio View Post
    I really do wonder why most americans haven't looked past "It's okay for Isreal to be displacing others! They suffered the Holocaust!" Well let me tell you this:
    (As quoted from Bertrand Russell, 1967)

    "The development of the crisis in the Middle East is both dangerous and instructive. For over 20 years Israel has expanded by force of arms. After every stage in this expansion Israel has appealed to “reason” and has suggested “negotiations”. This is the traditional role of the imperial power, because it wishes to consolidate with the least difficulty what it has already taken by violence. Every new conquest becomes the new basis of the proposed negotiation from strength, which ignores the injustice of the previous aggression. The aggression committed by Israel must be condemned, not only because no state has the right to annexe foreign territory, but because every expansion is an experiment to discover how much more aggression the world will tolerate.

    The refugees who surround Palestine in their hundreds of thousands were described recently by the Washington journalist I.F. Stone as “the moral millstone around the neck of world Jewry.” Many of the refugees are now well into the third decade of their precarious existence in temporary settlements. The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign Power to another people for the creation of a new State. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their number have increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty? It is abundantly clear that the refugees have every right to the homeland from which they were driven, and the denial of this right is at the heart of the continuing conflict. No people anywhere in the world would accept being expelled en masse from their own country; how can anyone require the people of Palestine to accept a punishment which nobody else would tolerate? A permanent just settlement of the refugees in their homeland is an essential ingredient of any genuine settlement in the Middle East.

    We are frequently told that we must sympathize with Israel because of the suffering of the Jews in Europe at the hands of the Nazis. I see in this suggestion no reason to perpetuate any suffering. What Israel is doing today cannot be condoned, and to invoke the horrors of the past to justify those of the present is gross hypocrisy. Not only does Israel condemn a vast number. of refugees to misery; not only are many Arabs under occupation condemned to military rule; but also Israel condemns the Arab nations only recently emerging from colonial status, to continued impoverishment as military demands take precedence over national development.

    All who want to see an end to bloodshed in the Middle East must ensure that any settlement does not contain the seeds of future conflict. Justice requires that the first step towards a settlement must be an Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied in June, 1967. A new world campaign is needed to help bring justice to the long-suffering people of the Middle East."
    But does anyone actually use the line of thinking "Jews suffered in WWII, ergo Jews can do what they wish in the Levant"?

    Seriously, because I'm yet to see/meet anyone who employs this logic.

  5. #5
    Sadreddine's Avatar Lost in a Paradise Lost
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Madrid, Spain
    Posts
    1,521

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Agreed, but the western masses keep falling in the holocaust card trap. As long as the 'west' (particularly the US) is zionist controlled/sympathizer we won't see the situation improve.

    The zionist regime knows it can get away with practically anything, the guard dog keeps sniffing its behind no matter what. Maybe with some useless, 'save the face' barking now and then.
    Last edited by Sadreddine; April 25, 2012 at 02:22 AM.
    Struggling by the Pen since February 2007.

    َاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ

  6. #6

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sadreddine View Post
    Agreed, but the western masses keep falling in the holocaust card trap.
    No they don't. The word "Holocaust" rarely appears in discussion of Israel in the West anymore, and especially America. The justification for support of Israel in America is based on two things -- religious kinship and a perceived "special and unique relationship" between Israel and the United States.
    قرطاج يجب ان تدمر

  7. #7
    Sadreddine's Avatar Lost in a Paradise Lost
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Madrid, Spain
    Posts
    1,521

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Quote Originally Posted by motiv-8 View Post
    No they don't. The word "Holocaust" rarely appears in discussion of Israel in the West anymore, and especially America.
    Really?

    http://www.aei.org/article/foreign-a...st-be-stopped/

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/11/kr...ond-holocaust/

    http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/0...-against-iran/

    Just to cite a few cases. It is basic knowledge that the 'tensions with Iran' have increased exponentially the overuse of the holocaust in western politics. And yes, specially and particularly in the US.

    a perceived "special and unique relationship" between Israel and the United States.
    Apart from the evangelist, neocon and zionist lobbies' political power and influence, can you explain how this 'special and unique relationship' has developed and what does it entail? I think you can give us a good summary. I'm genuinely interested in your opinion about this tricky issue.
    Struggling by the Pen since February 2007.

    َاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ

  8. #8

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Ugh. ing colonisation.

  9. #9

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Nothing to see here. Move on. Seen this many times before, and im just 17, Isreal is buzy with their ocupying the Palastine Lands since 1970.


  10. #10
    Tiberios's Avatar Le Paysan Soleil
    Patrician Moderator Emeritus

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Cimbria
    Posts
    12,702

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Not surprised at all. This is really getting out of hand and has been for quite some time.

  11. #11
    MathiasOfAthens's Avatar Comes Rei Militaris
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Stockholm, Sverige
    Posts
    22,877

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Like Azoth said, nothing new here. Israel wants peace but they wont stop building outposts. So the peace they want is one in which the Palestinians submit,

  12. #12

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Israel is like that spoiled child, that parents to solve the problem of the child being spoiled try to spoil it even more, and let it do whatever crap it wants, hoping that one day said child will have a sudden magical change for the good of everyone.

  13. #13
    Treize's Avatar Dux Limitis
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Gelderland
    Posts
    16,093

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    I have lost hope for them, sooner or later things are going to end up very bad for them and many people will die because of it.
    Miss me yet?

  14. #14
    Stario's Avatar Campidoctor
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Not the CCCP
    Posts
    1,997

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    “War, war never changes...” <(-_-)>

  15. #15
    Facupay's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Uruguay
    Posts
    1,119

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Israel disregarding everything and being an element of instability? Business as usual.
    HUMAN IS FISH ISLAM IS WATER. COME TO WATER AND BE RELAX...


  16. #16

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Israeli regime is playing Total War, just not virtually. Their calculations show that as long as America has their back, the Europeans remain paralyzed and the Arabs powerless, they'll eventually be able to regain most of what they imagine was their ancestral homeland, even if the means are rather questionable in nature.
    Eats, shoots, and leaves.

  17. #17
    Trey's Avatar Primicerius
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Land of the Evergreens
    Posts
    3,886

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Obviously the Palestinians want to kill the Jews. That's why the Israelis always move in next door on their land.
    for-profit death machine.

  18. #18

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trey View Post
    Obviously the Palestinians want to kill the Jews. That's why the Israelis always move in next door on their land.
    Well, you see, the continued rocket bombardment from the Gaza Strip means that Israel must expand its borders in the West Bank in order to better secure itself from rocket bombardment from the the Gaza Strip. It's all highly technical, military-related matters. I don't think you'd understand.
    قرطاج يجب ان تدمر

  19. #19
    Justice and Mercy's Avatar Praefectus
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Clovis, New Mexico, US of A
    Posts
    6,736

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Fine with me.

    With any luck the Israelis might conquer Syria too.
    The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. - James Madison

  20. #20
    Blaze86420's Avatar Praepositus
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    5,091

    Default Re: Israel legalizes another three outposts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice and Mercy View Post
    Fine with me.

    With any luck the Israelis might conquer Syria too.
    Of course it is, you've shown your tendencies for cultural supremacy many times before.

Page 1 of 5 12345 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •