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    http://news.yahoo.com/n-korean-army-...045354844.html

    North Korea's military Monday threatened "special actions" soon to turn parts of the South Korean capital to ashes, accusing Seoul's conservative government of defaming its leadership.
    The North has for months been criticising the South's President Lee Myung-Bak in extreme terms and threatening "sacred war" over perceived insults.
    There have been no incidents but the language has become increasingly vitriolic. Some analysts said they believe a military provocation is likely.
    "The special actions of our revolutionary armed forces will start soon to meet the reckless challenge of the group of traitors," said a statement on the official news agency.
    The North said its targets are "the Lee Myung-Bak group of traitors, the arch criminals, and the group of rat-like elements including conservative media destroying the mainstay of the fair public opinion".
    It said the actions "will reduce all... to ashes in three or four minutes... by unprecedented peculiar means and methods of our own style".
    Tens of thousands rallied in Pyongyang last Friday, screaming hatred for Lee and calling for his death over alleged insults.
    Last week the nuclear-armed North accused Lee of "desecrating" mass celebrations marking the 100th anniversary on April 15 of the birth of Pyongyang's founding president Kim Il-Sung.
    It bridled at anti-Pyongyang demonstrations in Seoul and at comments by Lee and conservative media. These questioned the cost of the anniversary celebrations for a nation suffering acute food shortages.
    Lee said the estimated $850 million cost of a rocket launch intended to mark the anniversary could have bought 2.5 million tonnes of corn.
    The launch, purportedly to put a satellite into orbit, was to have been a centrepiece of the celebrations. The rocket disintegrated after some two minutes in what was seen as an embarrassment for the regime.
    Monday's statement castigated Lee for comments last Friday, which urged the North's new leader Kim Jong-Un to reform agriculture and improve human rights.
    It also took issue with the South's unveiling of a new cruise missile said to be able to reach any target in the North.
    The North attributed its statement to the "special operation action group" of the military supreme command. Military officials in Seoul said they had no knowledge of such a unit, and no particular military movements had been detected in the North.
    One analyst said the North, unlike in the past, may well follow up its threats now that major anniversary events are over
    "The easiest option will be cyber terror... but we may have to guard against actual terrorist actions," Cheong Seong-Chang of South Korea's Sejong Institute think-tank, told AFP.
    "This time, I think there's a high possibility that the North's words, unlike in the past, will actually lead to specific actions."
    Baek Seung-Joo, of the South's Korea Institute for Defence Analyses, said there had been "bad signs" across the border but did not elaborate.
    "I'm worried about military provocations by North Korea," Baek told AFP.
    Tensions continue to rise between North and South Korea. Other than its usual threat to raze Seoul, some analysts believe that unlike in the past North Korea might follow up on its threats. Now i don't think North Korea is going to turn Seoul into ashes, but i do think military provocations by North Korea are possible. Relations between the two nations have only gotten worse ever since the failed rocket launch by North Korea. North Korea could easily start another border incident to show its still not a country to be messed with.

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    Until China wants a war with South Korea (never) then nothing will happen any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Until China wants a war with South Korea (never) then nothing will happen any time soon.

    A war will not happen until that point, but North Korea has shown its more then willing to oppose China with previous military provocations against South Korea such as the shelling of Yeonpyeong or the sinking of the Cheonan. This new leader will still be trying to cement his position in power and the regime North Korea has consistently used military action to try and help in this goal.

    The question is how would South Korea and the US then respond to such an action? If previous incidents are anything to go by they will basically shout a few angry words and eventually things will settle back down.
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    Nth Korea has sent an insult!
    Sth Korea now has a casus bellis against Nth Korea.
    Nth Korea is guaranteed by China.
    Sth Korea sends an insult (more, of an actual fact and making a point, rather then insulting).
    Nth Korea doesnt care about it's insult casus bellis and instead wants to use a fake "reconquest".
    Sth Korea is guaranteed by the USA.

    Nothing happens

    And so ends this small chapter of Korea in EU32012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IZob View Post
    Nth Korea has sent an insult!
    Sth Korea now has a casus bellis against Nth Korea.
    Nth Korea is guaranteed by China.
    Sth Korea sends an insult (more, of an actual fact and making a point, rather then insulting).
    Nth Korea doesnt care about it's insult casus bellis and instead wants to use a fake "reconquest".
    Sth Korea is guaranteed by the USA.

    Nothing happens

    And so ends this small chapter of Korea in EU32012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IZob View Post
    Nth Korea has sent an insult!
    Sth Korea now has a casus bellis against Nth Korea.
    Nth Korea is guaranteed by China.
    Sth Korea sends an insult (more, of an actual fact and making a point, rather then insulting).
    Nth Korea doesnt care about it's insult casus bellis and instead wants to use a fake "reconquest".
    Sth Korea is guaranteed by the USA.

    Nothing happens

    And so ends this small chapter of Korea in EU32012.

    Nth Korea Declares war failing to realise that a guarentee on them only works if they are defending
    America is brought into the war via their Guarentee of Sth Korea
    Nth Korea is demolished by combined Sth Korean and U.S forces while China sits on the sidelines with a bag of popcorn and a huge fence on the Nth Korean border, taking the -20 prestige hit when Nth Korea franticaly submits a call to arms.

    Anyways, just more baseless threats from the North to try to keep themselves relevant, South korea will throw some insults back and it will all die down for a month or so until North threatens again.

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    Nothing will happen. The issue in Korea is merely China's son and America's son insulting each other. The parent's won't go to war over their sons. Pretty strange metaphor i know
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    Another day in Korea it seems...
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    Yahoo? Really? Yahoo is a very bad source for world affairs, I don't recommend to read things from world affairs on that web page. Yahoo will make an stupid problem seem huge and alarm everyone, or make a huge problem seem stupid and make no one care about it, or make the article a huge pro-USA propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prdude1234 View Post
    Yahoo? Really? Yahoo is a very bad source for world affairs, I don't recommend to read things from world affairs on that web page. Yahoo will make an stupid problem seem huge and alarm everyone, or make a huge problem seem stupid and make no one care about it, or make the article a huge pro-USA propaganda.
    You realize Yahoo didn't write that article? It came from here: http://www.afp.com/

    Didn't you see the little AFP logo in the left hand corner?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    Well this is an entirely new situation we've never encountered before....
    Actually yes. If you read the article analysts are actually worried that North Korea might provoke a military incident this time.

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    And of course, let us not forget the customary........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    Actually yes. If you read the article analysts are actually worried that North Korea might provoke a military incident this time.
    Aren't analysts always worrying that North Korea will make good on it's threats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    Aren't analysts always worrying that North Korea will make good on it's threats?
    No. As it said in the article that unlike in the past when they made threats, they think they will make good on this one. They need to show the world they are not some nation others can laugh at and push around. They want to be taken seriously. This is of course due to their rocket launch that failed and embarrassed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    No. As it said in the article that unlike in the past when they made threats, they think they will make good on this one. They need to show the world they are not some nation others can laugh at and push around. They want to be taken seriously. This is of course due to their rocket launch that failed and embarrassed them.
    In which case I personally think they are empty threats, a minor border conflict may arise, but I highly doubt a full scale war will come any time soon via the actions of North Korea. This is a relatively new leader we are dealing with here.
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    Wait. So that means no Samsung Galaxy S III ?









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    it's time to finally decide which korea is best korea


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    Well this is an entirely new situation we've never encountered before....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    Well this is an entirely new situation we've never encountered before....
    My thoughts precisely.
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    In other news water falls from the sky sometimes and it is usually blue.

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    finally, President Lee Myung Bak will finally be able to realise his lifelong dream of being the unifier of the state of Korea

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