Medieval 2 & Kingdoms crashing - GTX 680

**hamzta09** · April 21, 2012, 05:54 PM

The game keep crashing upon boot saying something about Fatal Graphics Error.

The launcher also gives me a .net 2.0 error, however the launch works (not options tho)

I got the game booted ONCE and I entered the video settings put everything to max and I got the crash again.

System:
GTX 680 2GB 301.20
i5 2500K 4.2GHz
8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM
650W Corsair TX
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H B3

1920x1080 resolution. I have the latest DX, Drivers, .net, Flash etc.

**irishron** · April 21, 2012, 06:08 PM

Post your dxdiag.

Steam version?

Gold Edition?

**thlp** · April 23, 2012, 02:57 PM

Me too.
Low framerate more than 6,000 soldiers.
And at the end of the Battle Fatal Graphics Error often occurs.

i7 870 3.9G
GTX680
16GB DDR3
ETC...

Requirements rather than the high Shogun 2. lol

**irishron** · April 23, 2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by thlp

Me too.
Low framerate more than 6,000 soldiers.
And at the end of the Battle Fatal Graphics Error often occurs.

i7 870 3.9G
GTX680
16GB DDR3
ETC...

Requirements rather than the high Shogun 2. lol

Medieval2 is a one-horse, early XP game that only uses one core of that i7, everything goes through it before it even sees the 680, and it will only see the first 3.2gb of ram even with 64bit OS. Proved it to myself too many times.

I have in Task Manager seen kingdoms.exe in campaign mode go over a gig of ram by itself forming hordes.
I was pushing the game's limits, and I have Win 7 64bit and 4gb of ram.

**PoleCat** · June 29, 2012, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by thlp

Me too.
Low framerate more than 6,000 soldiers.
And at the end of the Battle Fatal Graphics Error often occurs.

i7 870 3.9G
GTX680
16GB DDR3
ETC...

Requirements rather than the high Shogun 2. lol

Do you have a specific error message that occurs when your game crashes to desktop? Unfortunately the topic has been somewhat sidetracked but if you can provide more clues we may be able to help. Thanks for any answers in advance. Good luck!

**Bantam** · April 28, 2012, 10:10 AM

Anyone else with a GTX 680 having this problem?

I'm getting a 680 soon and M2TW (with SS6.4) is one of the games I want to play with it, I'd be gutted if I couldn't play it with such a high end card.

**Losthief** · May 03, 2012, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bantam

Anyone else with a GTX 680 having this problem?

I'm getting a 680 soon and M2TW (with SS6.4) is one of the games I want to play with it, I'd be gutted if I couldn't play it with such a high end card.

mtw2 bottle-necking depends more on the processor than the graphics card. Especially ss w/ turn times etc etc. Just keep your card updated and overclock your main core (the one for kingdoms.exe, also assign it to the overclocked core) and you'll get the best performance possible.

**Slaists** · May 10, 2012, 09:02 AM

I just installed GTX 680, replacing my GTX 555 and I have crashes with Shogun 2, Empire Total War and Napoleon Total War. Haven't tried MTW 2. I experience three types of crashes:

1. Blue screen crash (system reboot)
2. Black screen crash with total system freeze (only power down button works)
3. Black screen crash with system recovery (not for the game though; game remains minimized and nonresponsive)

#1 usually happens during battles (but sometimes also during menu screens); #2 and #3 happen during the campaign map.

I had no issues whatsoever with GTX 555 on the same system everything else the same (even in-game settings [on ultra])

**Losthief** · May 11, 2012, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Slaists

I just installed GTX 680, replacing my GTX 555 and I have crashes with Shogun 2, Empire Total War and Napoleon Total War. Haven't tried MTW 2. I experience three types of crashes:

1. Blue screen crash (system reboot)
2. Black screen crash with total system freeze (only power down button works)
3. Black screen crash with system recovery (not for the game though; game remains minimized and nonresponsive)

#1 usually happens during battles (but sometimes also during menu screens); #2 and #3 happen during the campaign map.

I had no issues whatsoever with GTX 555 on the same system everything else the same (even in-game settings [on ultra])

sounds like you forgot to clean house on the drivers with the old card before installing the new maybe?

**irishron** · May 10, 2012, 09:11 AM

For Medieval2, delete the medieval2.preference.cfg.

The game will rebuild it when you start a new campaign.

NTW and S2, delete the scripts folder.

**Slaists** · May 10, 2012, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by irishron

For Medieval2, delete the medieval2.preference.cfg.

The game will rebuild it when you start a new campaign.

NTW and S2, delete the scripts folder.

Done that, no change in GPU behavior.

**irishron** · May 10, 2012, 10:16 AM

680 possibly too new for the game for a little bit.

Did it generate a new medieval2.preference.cfg?

Have you tried the latest Beta drivers at http://www.nvidia.com?

**hamzta09** · June 27, 2012, 02:09 PM

The stupid game keeps crashing immediately on boot, I hear the background music though.

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.
at System.Number.StringToNumber(String str, NumberStyles options, NumberBuffer& number, NumberFormatInfo info, Boolean parseDecimal)
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at System.Double.Parse(String s, NumberStyles style, NumberFormatInfo info)
at System.Convert.ToDouble(String value, IFormatProvider provider)
at System.String.System.IConvertible.ToDouble(IFormatProvider provider)
at System.Convert.ToDouble(Object value)
at UpdateLib.UpdateCore.Init(String updateDbPath, String versionDbPath, Boolean isUpdater)
at Launcher.LauncherMainForm.LauncherMainForm_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5456 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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Launcher
Assembly Version: 1.0.2669.20298
Win32 Version: 1.0.2669.20298
CodeBase: file:///E:/Spel/Steam/steamapps/common/Medieval%20II%20Total%20War/launcher.exe
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System.Windows.Forms
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System
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Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5456 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Drawing
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CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
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CoreLib
Assembly Version: 1.0.2669.20298
Win32 Version: 1.0.2669.20298
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SkinLib
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Win32 Version: 1.0.2669.20298
CodeBase: file:///E:/Spel/Steam/steamapps/common/Medieval%20II%20Total%20War/SkinLib.DLL
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AxInterop.SHDocVw
Assembly Version: 1.1.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.0.0
CodeBase: file:///E:/Spel/Steam/steamapps/common/Medieval%20II%20Total%20War/AxInterop.SHDocVw.DLL
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Interop.SHDocVw
Assembly Version: 1.1.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.0.0
CodeBase: file:///E:/Spel/Steam/steamapps/common/Medieval%20II%20Total%20War/Interop.SHDocVw.DLL
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Accessibility
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll
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UpdateLib
Assembly Version: 1.0.2669.20298
Win32 Version: 1.0.2669.20298
CodeBase: file:///E:/Spel/Steam/steamapps/common/Medieval%20II%20Total%20War/UpdateLib.DLL
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System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
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Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback
Assembly Version: 1.0.2902.0
Win32 Version: 5.04.00.2904
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC/Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback/1.0.2902.0__31bf3856ad364e35/Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback.dll
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Microsoft.DirectX
Assembly Version: 1.0.2902.0
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

**irishron** · June 27, 2012, 02:23 PM

Tried verifying the game cache?

Post your dxdiag.

**hamzta09** · June 27, 2012, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by irishron

Tried verifying the game cache?

Post your dxdiag.

I reformated my PC less than 3 hours ago, I have only one game installed and that is M2TW, so why should I verify it?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**irishron** · June 27, 2012, 04:31 PM

While reinstalling, did you reinstall the motherboard drivers?
Have you run Windows Update manually and install all software options while you're at it?

You pssibly have a serious conflict going between Nvidia and Intel in BIOS over graphics settings.

**hamzta09** · June 27, 2012, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by irishron

While reinstalling, did you reinstall the motherboard drivers?
Have you run Windows Update manually and install all software options while you're at it?

You pssibly have a serious conflict going between Nvidia and Intel in BIOS over graphics settings.

1. I dont install Motherboard drivers, because I dont need them, nor is there one that is useful.
2. Uhh yes.
3. I doubt that, no other game has this issue. And no.

**irishron** · June 27, 2012, 07:48 PM

1. Yes, you do.
2. I would hope so.
3. Suit yourself.

**hamzta09** · June 27, 2012, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by irishron

1. Yes, you do.
2. I would hope so.
3. Suit yourself.

1. Ok. Go ahead and prove me wrong, which you cannot. (WITH EXCEPTION OF THE LAN DRIVER)
2. You seem to believe users here are at a level of kindergarten in terms of hardware and computers.
3. No it isnt the issue, because I had the same

ing issue with my 5850 and then I didnt even have the integrated graphics enabled, nor did I even have the secondary monitor plugged into it.
Also I had another motherboard prior to this, with an AMD build. I had nothing integrated, I could still not boot the game, cause it just kept crashing.

**PoleCat** · June 27, 2012, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by hamzta09

1. I dont install Motherboard drivers, because I dont need them, nor is there one that is useful.
2. Uhh yes.
3. I doubt that, no other game has this issue. And no.

Originally Posted by hamzta09

1. Ok. Go ahead and prove me wrong, which you cannot. (WITH EXCEPTION OF THE LAN DRIVER)
2. You seem to believe users here are at a level of kindergarten in terms of hardware and computers.
3. No it isnt the issue, because I had the same

ing issue with my 5850 and then I didnt even have the integrated graphics enabled, nor did I even have the secondary monitor plugged into it.
Also I had another motherboard prior to this, with an AMD build. I had nothing integrated, I could still not boot the game, cause it just kept crashing.

I'm not going to add anything of technical value to this thread. But I would like to remind casual users that these Tech threads are manned by volunteer help. I would ask for some understanding on that point and some mutual respect. It is not that we view you as a kindergarten level user - it's merely because we're trying to understand your problem from miles away that we need to ask these questions. I would hope you would understand....

To put it another way - childish tantrums will gain you nothing here. We're trying our best to help you. If you find that you can't get the help you need then move along to another forum. Good luck!

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