A question about 6.3 SS

**candi81** · April 21, 2012, 10:16 AM

I was just wondering, I started my campaign on a Early Era campaign, will I be able to unlock Gunpowder units ect, as I cannot find them on the Custom Battle screens.

**Ichon** · April 21, 2012, 10:22 AM

Yes but its going to be a long time. First cannon aren't for about 200 turns and handguns even longer.

**Paragon** · April 21, 2012, 10:30 AM

140*, maybe 142 if I recall correctly.

**candi81** · April 21, 2012, 10:43 AM

Thanks for the quick response, to the both of you. Can I also ask is it possible for Nottingham to be upgraded to a Fortress; and if so, how much population does it need?

**Paragon** · April 21, 2012, 11:27 AM

<population_levels>

<level name="village" base="500" upgrade="1000" min="500" max="1500"/>
<level name="town" base="1000" upgrade="3000" min="500" max="5000"/>
<level name="large_town" base="3000" upgrade="9000" min="500" max="12000"/>
<level name="city" base="9000" upgrade="17000" min="500" max="25000"/>
<level name="large_city" base="17000" upgrade="34000" min="500" max="60000"/>
<level name="huge_city" base="34000" min="500" max="500000"/>

<level name="moot_and_bailey" base="500" upgrade="1000" min="500" max="1500"/>
<level name="wooden_castle" base="1000" upgrade="3000" min="500" max="5000"/>
<level name="castle" base="3000" upgrade="8500" min="500" max="10000"/>
<level name="fortress" base="7000" upgrade="17000" min="500" max="21000"/>
<level name="citadel" base="13000" min="500" max="30000"/>

From the SS 6.3. IIRC, this changed in 6.4. Maybe it was misery rate and chilvary helping the population to grow and not the number necessary to upgrade, but still this might be wrong for .4

**SonofaBooyah** · April 21, 2012, 11:27 AM

The population takes much longer to grow on SS, and sometimes the growth just stops altogether. It's a real pain. I dunno how much population you need for a fortress actually, I think its past 10000 people though.

**SonofaBooyah** · April 21, 2012, 11:28 AM

Ok never mind...

**Paragon** · April 21, 2012, 11:30 AM

If you use SS 6.4 it might actually be 10.000 or more.

**candi81** · April 21, 2012, 12:18 PM

My final question, I'm getting CTD at the end of turn 51, is this a common bug with a fix? I have trouble installing SS6.4

**Paragon** · April 21, 2012, 12:41 PM

I'm new here and get trouble understanding acronyms, what's a CTD? Is that a STD?

**SonofaBooyah** · April 21, 2012, 12:54 PM

CTD means Crash to Desktop, when you crash out of a game basically.
I do believe this is a very common bug actually, there have been many reports of CTD's at turn 51.

**Paragon** · April 21, 2012, 01:02 PM

This never happened to me. In SS at least. No clue.

**Navajo Joe** · April 21, 2012, 01:23 PM

Guys,

If you are using 6.3, you need to install the 6.3 Bug fix for Turn 51, if you have 6.4 installed then not required as fixed.

Nottingham can be a Fortress, you just need a chivarous General in place, think population required is 8500 according to what was posted earlier, its 9500 for 6.4