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    Default Odd thing with Moors

    i like to turn back to basics on MTW2 from time to time. i started a campaing as Moors on vh/vh, 1.5 patched.
    i'm now at about 65 turns and i experienced only attacks from the sea from the beginning. i expected sicily to do so ofcourse, a bit less milan. around turn 4 milan and sicily were at my shores with like 7-8 unit each, not hard to deal with, since milan just camped for a while and just sicily attacked.
    prob is that after pushing back sicily for 6-7 turns, a full stack of venetians, and another of byzantine was at tunis. i mean, they didnt even enter war to each other...and they kept sending navys over and over with 2-3 units on each.
    i managed to survive since i called previously a jihad on tunis and i was well armed. its about turn 30 when i struggle with a stack of papal state at cagliari . just to make it even more fun.

    fortunately spain and portugal didnt bothered me at start, but at about turn 40 spain attacked blocking one port and that was a good moment to get another jihad over their capital. conquered that one, one of my spies spoted an english and a scottish navy right at the northern iberian shores. guess what....full stacks even there, that landed right away and attacked.

    around 60 egypt attacked tunis via land with a full stack.

    any1 had such experince? is it a 1.5 patch thing or smth? i play this game for long time and first time happening.

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    First time what happening?

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    beeing attacked from such far away factions like byzantine, scotts, english. and those nearby like milan, sicily, papal, venice, egypt, spain.

    is that enough?

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    VH campaign difficulty? Then get used to it, the AI likes to make war with you on VH - and thats an understatement.

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    did it sound like a complain?

    no i just was surprised to see attacks in a crusade way. i mean, each faction just got disinteressed to their neighbours and came at me. i play only VH and as i said first time ever i see such agression. its lots of fun actually. i just wondered if others had this "problem".

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    Isn“t it kind of normal for the AI to make weird things like, for example, that on VH?
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    Vanilla Vh is usually that way


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    yeah, I'm surprised you didn't experience this before on VH
    the AI usually does this on VH, he is still dumb though
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    i've always been attacked by factions sharing borders with me, that sounds normal. exept Jihad/Crusade forces and also Mongol/Timurids, i've never seen armies walking through borders of other factions to reach my settlements (england through french-portuguese-spanish territories, and Byzantine through naples). what was more fun was the sight of the scotts on toledo . usually they struggle againts england.

    anyway...

    if it happened to others that means i just had strange games all these years.

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    When I'm the Moors this happens to me all the time. No other faction, just the Moors. I get attacked by every faction except like 6 of the factions

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    Yep. That sounds like a typical VH campaign. The AI will attack you, even if it isn't a strategically sound option for them.




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    VH gives the AI extra money making it stronger, its makes your relations fall faster so they hate you more and the AI will specifically target you due to how It's coded.

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    In my latest game the Papal states marched an army north and then west through southern france to boot El Cid out of Valencia. Borders and distance really mean little to the AI.

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    sweet

    maybe it never happened to me since i managed to play Mtw2 unpatched until i found other mods like Tatw and sticked to them for long time. 1.5 is quite a challenge.

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    AI in Vanilla is pretty bad though, after paying mods with new AI its a walk in the park.

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    actually not that dumb, i mean compared to Tatw i see no big differences in battles. cavalry charges my flank almost always and archers target my best units.

    thing is that even on Vh/Vh money flows like river with like 2-3 cities and 3 castles. at last 1 full stack for each settlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liburn View Post
    actually not that dumb, i mean compared to Tatw i see no big differences in battles. cavalry charges my flank almost always and archers target my best units.

    thing is that even on Vh/Vh money flows like river with like 2-3 cities and 3 castles. at last 1 full stack for each settlement.
    SS has a bit better AI,particularly if you use the newer AI versions released.

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    i installed today 6.3 and 6.4 (been too addicted to TATW) and gonna give it a try for sure.

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