weird foreign veteran retainer: "glass plate camera"

[Civilopedian]

it gives your FV a 5% greater chance of being killed in 1v1 combat. that had me puzzled, since i'd rather he didn't die and would like the chance of him dying to be less!

what advantage is to be had of taking it this retainer?

fwiw my other choice is "dreyse needle gun" which gives +5% to rifle reload skill

[Lokgar]

I've never picked it, but I wonder if it unlocks the option for a potentially awesome retainer for the next slot?

Seems too risky to test!

[marceror]

I just don't take it. Why would I want to have a FV that's easier to lose? Usually there is a far better option to choose from than this one.

[krisslanza]

I somehow want to think its just a typo and it means it boosts your agent's chance to kill someone else by 5%

[StukaJr]

There are negative retainers - guess keeps you on the toes as you make your choices...

Guess camera means that the FV is acting more like a tourist / glory hound instead of keeping the mind on ze waghhr.

Something along the lines of "Scottish Tourist" - slows your army down quite a bit.

[Civilopedian]

Slows your army down quite a bit.

Like Timothy Spall.



Tom Cruise mad.

[StukaJr]

Like Timothy Spall.



Tom Cruise mad.

Oooooooooh!!! That is funny - plus rep

[fws2468]

Well, maybe if he has a -7% to army movement trait and you want to get rid of him honourably in 1v1 combat, the retainer could come in handy. Or you could do it the easy way by putting him on a ship that "accidentally" sinks in the sea.

[DeValiere]

Yes, that's what I thought too - he'd be taking a photo, not paying attention to what's going on around him and... bang, boom, slice. You're dead!

And I agree that it does keep you on your toes to have negative aspects for possible retainers.

[Prnn]

Yes, that's what I thought too - he'd be taking a photo, not paying attention to what's going on around him and... bang, boom, slice. You're dead!

And I agree that it does keep you on your toes to have negative aspects for possible retainers.

It increases his chance of dying in single combat.

Not from assassinations, and it includes single combats he initiated.


As for "Keeping you on your toes", I once got the choice between the hungarian phrasebook and the glass palted camera.

[DeValiere]

As for "Keeping you on your toes", I once got the choice between the hungarian phrasebook and the glass palted camera.

Ouch.

[tottiittot]

It increases his chance of dying in single combat.

Not from assassinations, and it includes single combats he initiated.


As for "Keeping you on your toes", I once got the choice between the hungarian phrasebook and the glass palted camera.

I think that is the purpose of the bad retainers, when you get to choose one less troublesome for you from the two of them.

Still better than the automatically spawn bad trait, like "heart-sick" inheritance decease that stick with your entire family tree.

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

I think that is the purpose of the bad retainers, when you get to choose one less troublesome for you from the two of them.

Still better than the automatically spawn bad trait, like "heart-sick" inheritance decease that stick with your entire family tree.

I'd way rather have the bad traits.

That's the main thing I miss from the older TW's. The trait system was so much better.

[Humble Warrior]

I think the bad traits modifier should be hidden. What`s the point revealing what the numbers actually do? It`s illogical and stupid. I would actually have liked it and probably chosen one if I didn`t really know what it did and find out bit by bit. It would be realistic, as you never know what bad luck a guy might pick up till later. Lost opportunity there.

[eXistenZ]

my FV just promoted, had to choose between the camera or scottish tourist (-7% campaign range). so i went for the camera

[krisslanza]

I think the bad traits modifier should be hidden. What`s the point revealing what the numbers actually do? It`s illogical and stupid. I would actually have liked it and probably chosen one if I didn`t really know what it did and find out bit by bit. It would be realistic, as you never know what bad luck a guy might pick up till later. Lost opportunity there.

If the game didn't tell you what they did, you'd well... never know what anything did. Would then make the entire system pointless.

Unless you're one of the people who meticulously tracks every possible variable you can think of, and then can notice something like a -7% change in campaign distance, for example.

[Humble Warrior]

If the game didn't tell you what they did, you'd well... never know what anything did. Would then make the entire system pointless.
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Rubbish. i`m not talking about the entire system, just those little traits you get. And if I have to explain why then there`s no point in me explaining.

[Death's Deputy]

Hungarian phrasebook = great Monty Python reference!

[daniu]

it gives your FV a 5% greater chance of being killed in 1v1 combat. that had me puzzled, since i'd rather he didn't die and would like the chance of him dying to be less!

what advantage is to be had of taking it this retainer?

It's a mistake in the description text.
It actually gives +5% chance of surviving single combat.

[Lazarus]

to which I put the question - how the blazes will the camera make singles combat easier? Unless I'm to understand he's using the flash to put his opponent off.