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  1. #6621

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    Give me a couple of days to come up with something. If I can't I will post to open the floor.

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    This may not be too difficult but it's all I could come up with

    This picture was scanned off the cover of a catalog I have, and you can get an idea of the scale from the fact that the object is being held up by an adult man. I knew the late owner of this piece quite well but he's been gone maybe 25 years now.



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    The Elgin patent cutlass pistol? To be honest, I am clueless about that kind of stuff, but that's the best result of my quick Google search.

  4. #6624

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    Darn it, that was quicker than I expected but yes, it is an Elgin cutlass pistol patented in 1838. The US Navy ordered 150 of them for a South Seas expedition and some were also sold commercially. As with most combination weapons they did not excel that well at either application. Examples of these are quite rare today and thus also quite pricey.

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    Thanks Forward Observer!

    Next one is a photo from my last trip:

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    I censored the number and the flag of the ship, but not the land flag. Not sure if it's visible enough though, but the main colours are black and white.

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    Has the appearance of a frigate or destroyer, perhaps Russian. I will guess at Admiral Grigorovich class. Presumably the "black and white" flag is the Jolly Roger.

    On reflection, I will guess at the French destroyer, Maille-Breze (D627). Presumably the flag is still the Jolly Roger.
    Last edited by Cope; July 09, 2022 at 07:18 AM.



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    Correct! It's the French destroyer Maillé-Brézé, nowadays a naval museum in Nantes. She also had a role in the recent film about the evacuation of Dunkirk. The flag is that of the city of Nantes. The black and white combination is a reference to Brittany.

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    Worth its weight in Gold.

    I cede my turn to another.
    Last edited by Cope; July 09, 2022 at 08:11 AM.



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    Since no one wanted my turn, here is a new picture:




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    zip
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cope View Post
    Since no one wanted my turn, here is a new picture:

    I guess it's a triple barrel pistol, probably late 17th or early 18th century. I would guess from seafaring countries, like Spain, Engalnd or France. I've seen one of those things at a museum.

  12. #6632

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    Warm, but I will be requiring more information about the firing mechanism.



  13. #6633

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    I'd probably back date the item to maybe the 16th century from the decoration and since I think I am seeing what are winding lugs sticking out on each side, I'm guessing that it's a wheel-lock. There were multi-barreled pistols called duck's foot or duck's feet pistols with the barrels spread out in an arc but they were designed to fire all at once in a spread pattern as more of an anti-personnel type of weapon.

    Since there appears to be at least two separate lock systems I would guess these barrels could be fired separately. I just can't figure out how the center barrel was fired unless there was a third lock system mounted on top out of sight. I'm also assuming that the metal strap in the center is a trigger guard and I can sort of see what appears to be two triggers. Perhaps there's a third hidden by the guard. Of course there could also be a switch of some sort to route the fire from one of the outside firing systems to the middle.

    I found a couple of three barreled pistols listed in the inventories of two museums including the metropolitan in NY but neither were currently on display nor pictured. I've visited that museum on my only trip to New York about 15 years ago and their collection of arms and especially armor was fantastic.

    If I got close enough then give the turn to Swabian since he was on the right track.

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    Last edited by Forward Observer; July 11, 2022 at 09:52 PM. Reason: grammar
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  14. #6634

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    Enough info has been given. It is a Pistolet à rouet à trois canons, France, vers 1610 (on display at the French Army Museum). Rep to both.



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    @Swabian,


    Please take your turn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forward Observer View Post
    @Swabian,


    Please take your turn.


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    Since no one posted anything, here we go


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    Default Re: Identify that Tank/Ship/Plane/Artillery etc

    Looks like a Bloch plane in the service of the Greek air-force during WWII. Not sure about the exact model, but I think it's a MB 151/c1.

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    it is indeed an MB151


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    She sank in a night battle with the loss of most of her crew, including the rear-admiral:

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