You're not going to keep those names are you?
Referring to names such as "qdb" and "sb' w-gwm". Obviously, they didn't pronounce them that way since it's pretty much impossible. I assume that you simply do not know that vowels but please, it looks to ugly. Can't you just semi-guess which vowels should be there instead?
Domesticus
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didnt they have the option to either enable disable original names in the instalation process?
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Well unless some radical new piece of research comes along which revolutionises our understanding of the names, specifically filling in all the blanks on vowels ... we're probably going to keep the names vowel-less.
Nope, that subject has been brought up as feature request but I rejected it.Originally Posted by The Nationalist
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So it's simply written sb' w-gwm because you don't know the vowels and you'll rather have unfinished historically accurate names then finished unhistorical ones? Ok, I'll get that.
Semisalis
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Watch out, we got a major issue over here.
Centenarius
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If you really need vowel, you can make your own made up pronunciations, no? Why would we have to be the ones fantasising for you?
Libertus
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Read the preview, didnt it say they didnt use vowels in their written language and therefore to be accurate they are not used when translated into english??
"non atrocitate, non clementia mutabatur"– changed neither by cruelty nor by clemency. Tacitus writing about the Silurae
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haghar hyr, noble archers, have vowels in them so it's not consistent. And while they didn't have vowels in their written language that's irrelevant as they didn't write with the latin alphabeth. And they didn't pronouce them as such either. The native names should strive after pronounciation no?
Vicarius
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I hope they use the transliterated version (with the added vowels) for the units etc. just for legibility. Though in EB they have the name, the phonetics and the the english, which would still work in the non-latin version.
Were there but a tree in this godforsaken place i would have hanged myself.
Domesticus
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link as to why you rejected it?
Praeses
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Because it's a lot of extra work...
They have them, but the spelling rules are complicated and inconsistent (some are written all the time, some are only written in specific situations). It's because the Semitic languages are fashioned in a way that allows native speakers to read the customized Semitic alphabets without getting confused about the meaning. The problem is, once the language in question is dead or has evolved further, it's very difficult to say precisely which vowel went where. An even bigger problem is when somebody applies that kind of alphabet to a non-Semitic language (like Persian), because those don't work well without written out vowels.
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Domesticus
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oh ok..you're the devs here
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personnally i like understanding what i read.
Tribe A german swordsmen (OK)
Grvvsfilool.adokaka boom boom (Not Ok)
it makes makes things overly complicated, though its pretty cool to role play that empire with the different enthinic units some names just go way over my head.
also i know you guys like greeks but for the love of god calm down on the hellenistic troops. wether its India or Eastern France i can find these god damn greeks everywhere.
i mean did the greeks breed like rats in 3 decades and paratroop to all corners of the known world? i have easier time recruiting greeks in persia than actual persians...
Civis
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You do realize that Greek kingdoms ruled the world from Illyria to Afghanistan, right? You see, there was this guy called Alexander the Great, he conquered a bunch of land and his followers set up a few kingdoms/enormous empires there. And that before that greek merchants set up colonies around the entire mediterranean.
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Don't you like a challenge now and then? Something that isn't obvious from the beginning...
1. Have try a EB1: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=518308. All units have native/local and English names.Tribe A german swordsmen (OK)
Grvvsfilool.adokaka boom boom (Not Ok)
it makes makes things overly complicated, though its pretty cool to role play that empire with the different enthinic units some names just go way over my head.
2. Do you really want to play a historic mod, or do you rather want it simple and easy?
Hmm... I guess you are either young (then your post is at least somehow understandable) or dumb (then anything you say is fine)...also i know you guys like greeks but for the love of god calm down on the hellenistic troops. wether its India or Eastern France i can find these god damn greeks everywhere.
i mean did the greeks breed like rats in 3 decades and paratroop to all corners of the known world? i have easier time recruiting greeks in persia than actual persians...
To get at least a starting glimps at the Hellenistic world wikipedia is quite fine, but even looking there seens to have been to much work for you...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_c...Greek_colonies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massili...ical_antiquity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_the_Diadochi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhus_of_Epirus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo_Greeks
Really?! You weren't able to look...?!
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Rule number one: Europa Barbarorum is always with when it comes to history. They're the most trusted source on history in my opinion.
Alexandros
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some would consider that an insult...
you will also find Celts everywhere and Iranians... and the problem is? Back then Greek was the modern English...
let me rephrase that for you! many would consider that an insult! I consider that an insult! you are insulting! how can you write such a post!? I don't know why I don't report you... I just don't know... maybe because I am too proud to get even... maybe I hope you will write some apologies here... I expect some apologies here! where do you people think you are? if you don't write your name do you think it is ok to insult and act like you own the world?
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Domesticus
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KTHNXBAI!
Re: You're not going to keep those names are you?
We should be able to pronounce those words. You should either include vowles or teach us how to pronounce them.
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