People that complain about the FotS Railroads

**El-Generalissimo** · April 14, 2012, 12:12 PM

So, I've been hearing a lot of complaining about the rail-roads, and I just think: why?
If you actually look at what they did, its great!

Here are a few of the points I've heard:

-Pre-set locations
-Not enough effect
-No rail-roads on Islands
-Takes ages to build
-Boats are better
-AI doesnt use them enough

Well, I do agree with some of those points (I also think that, in some cases, boats would suit you better than rail-roads, and the AI is really crappy with them in the beginning), but I don't think they're all right. Allow me to explain:

-The locations that the rail-roads follow, are historically accurate, which adds to the realism of the game (imagine if rail-roads would be like roads, wouldn't be much fun in that, wouldn't it?). They also set a nice route of attack along which to advance.
-If you advance along a railway, and actually do something to try and use them, you'll find out that they're pretty useful (especially if you specialise towns, because, for example, I had a town, which I crowned ''military capital'' of my clan. It had a rail-road close by, which meant that I could rush down specialist troops down to the front.)
-With the current movement system, railways wouldn't be useful on islands. I even think you need at least 3 stations for the rail-road to actually make a difference. The islands are just to small (use ships ;D)
-7 Turns isn't that much, with the short turns FotS offers you. Don't really see a valid point here.

As much as I like the railways, I would like to see the AI thing worked out, and maybe allow for new technologies to be researched so trains go faster (new train types(hint-hint modders

)

**~~DarthShizNit~~** · April 14, 2012, 12:39 PM

In My Chosu campaign railroads were critical the whole time. I really like the way they've been implemented.

**DeliCiousTZM** · April 14, 2012, 01:05 PM

Whatever you did in your campaign isent historicaly accurate. But it is realistic that if you were this person you might get the notion of constructing railway over all of japan.

Tier 1 Railway = Railway 7 turns 5k
Suggested
Tier 2 Railway = Stock company 15 turns 15k Connects all adjacant provinces to this province railway.
(New option) upon entering stock company town that is connected to railway

Garrison city
Use railway

**Sir Winston Churchill** · April 14, 2012, 01:07 PM

So, I've been hearing a lot of whining

You've been hearing complaining, not whining. You lost respect to your entire argument the minute you used that word.

**eXistenZ** · April 14, 2012, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by John F. Kennedy

You've been hearing complaining, not whining. You lost respect to your entire argument the minute you used that word.

indeed.

I like railways a lot. its a shame though you cant force/pay your allies (or even your vassals) to make them.

**nameless** · April 14, 2012, 02:02 PM

Yeah just give them 20,000 and they'll build the railways.

Railways costs 10,000 so if the AI is low on funds then it wouldn't build them.

-Pre-set locations
-No rail-roads on Islands
-Takes ages to build

Most people don't realize that each province is allowed about one specific resource and Railroad stations are one of those.

So either a province carries iron/gunsmith/etc. or it carries a railway station.

This is why the island provinces don't have railways. If they did then they wouldn't have those special resources like silver, gold, gunsmiths, etc.

**eXistenZ** · April 15, 2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by nameless

Yeah just give them 20,000 and they'll build the railways.

Railways costs 10,000 so if the AI is low on funds then it wouldn't build them.

Just gave my vassal 55k (20+15+20 spread over like 7 turns), still hasnt build them. yeah he has upgrade dhis casle, farm and samurai dojo. hasnt even begun on upgrading his telegrph office

im 90 turns far on normal, so i ssume the AI has the technology to build them. luckily i saved on turn 80 before i gave the money, now i can use it myself