Stopping Steam Updates on Initial Installation

**Ciabhán** · April 13, 2012, 07:09 PM

Is there anyway to stop a new install of Shogun from downloading all the updates? I'd rather not have it break for a third time and cause me to download another 25gbs for nothing.

As much as I've enjoyed the TW games over the years this one has been more frustration than fun.

**Prnn** · April 13, 2012, 07:27 PM

Offline mode on steam?

**Humble Warrior** · April 13, 2012, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Ciabhán

Is there anyway to stop a new install of Shogun from downloading all the updates? I'd rather not have it break for a third time and cause me to download another 25gbs for nothing.

As much as I've enjoyed the TW games over the years this one has been more frustration than fun.

Impossible. It cannot be done.

**Ciabhán** · April 13, 2012, 07:36 PM

Oh good. Well I guess that's it for Shogun. I'm now on my fourth complete download of the files. Once it updates I'll get to play it once then, after saving and exiting, on return the save file will be missing and all the campaign options will be faded out.

Sadly, after this experience, this will be the last game I purchase from CA. I don't have a lot of time to play so when I do I want things to work.

**Humble Warrior** · April 13, 2012, 07:44 PM

With steam, we have less choice with our games not more. Now, if you already have the main game installed you can avoid new patches by simply not logging into Steam, but once you do a new install, Steam will force everything down your throat. there is no option to install separate patches or not. Before steam you could install a fresh game and choose to have or not to have a patch.

That`s how it is. Perhaps if more people had complained about this in the early days something might`ve been done about it, but since no one cared, we now must live with the consequences of less freedom in gaming. Steam has made people love Apathy.

**Ferdiad** · April 13, 2012, 08:55 PM

Your in the Minority here, most people never have a problem with Steam and love it.

**Ciabhán** · April 13, 2012, 10:58 PM

My problem isn't with Steam. Generally I have no complaints and this.one isn't Valve's fault it's CA's. The new patch broke things.

**Prnn** · April 14, 2012, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Ferdiad

Your in the Minority here, most people never have a problem with Steam and love it.

Originally Posted by Valve, with a gigantic grin on their face

Steam beta must be running

Hl2.exe has stopped working

Also the version of Vampire: The masquerade: Bloodlines up on steam does not work.

I don't mind steam, but let's not pretend steam does not have problems.

Anyway, OP:
How does you game break?
What happens when you try to open your game?

**daniu** · April 14, 2012, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by Prnn

Also the version of Vampire: The masquerade: Bloodlines up on steam does not work.

It does. You have to start it as administrator though.

**Ferdiad** · April 15, 2012, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Prnn

Also the version of Vampire: The masquerade: Bloodlines up on steam does not work.

I don't mind steam, but let's not pretend steam does not have problems.

Anyway, OP:
How does you game break?
What happens when you try to open your game?

Yet most people never have problems or if they do are pretty minor.

**Lazarus** · April 13, 2012, 10:57 PM

Interesting... I've only just had this issue occur and I'm quite confounded as to why, though I have my suspicions.

Did the Awesomium process usually crash before your game closed before you experienced this issue?

**Lazarus** · April 13, 2012, 11:04 PM

When you've done these reinstalls, have you deleted your scripts folder?

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=532739

**Ciabhán** · April 13, 2012, 11:17 PM

Yeah I've progressed. First time it broke I deleted scripts then verified the cache. Didn't work so I deleted the entire Shogun 2 folder under the AppData directory then verified, didn't work. So I uninstalled the game, deleted all remnants from the install directory and the AppData directory. Reinstalled and it worked. Played a couple hours, saved, exited. Came back a few days later, PC had been turned off the entire time so nothing changed, broken again. Repeated entire process. Got back today, tried to play, broken. I've now spent 76 hours downloading a game I've played for 40ish.

Never had this problem prior to the FoTS prepatch.

**A Barbarian** · April 14, 2012, 04:20 AM

The ridiculous thing about Steam updates is that they actually have the option "Do not automatically update this game." BUT each time after you launch the game, Steam resets it to "Always keep this game up to date".

I backup all my Steam games after bigger patches. Fortunately, I have a backup from before the FOTS release.

**BullGod** · April 14, 2012, 09:47 AM

Well, I'll tell you this: I don't mind Steam as an idea, a platform for games distribution, etc. It's not perfect, It has it's downsides, alright.
But it really pisses me off how CA uses it. Now I have over 30 GB of data in Shogun2 folder, even if I use only half of it. I didn't wanted to buy FOTS, but hey, I downloaded it anyway when I wanted to patch my orginal Shogun game. Same thing with that other expansion. And I can't get rid of it if I want to play Shogun.
Same thing if you buy "standalone" FOTS. You will have to install all other crap as well, but you'll play only one campaign. Who designed this?
It's like buying only suit pants with jacket sewn into pockets. You don't get to wear the jacket, but you have to carry it all around all the same.