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    Default Mod for Medieval East Asia: The Mongol Invasion Total War

    Introduction

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    We're going to made another mod for Asia. Honestly we're just trying to made a simple mod which can be done quickly first (the mod should work in the basic form before it can be improve) since we're none but a group of gamers and don't have much modding skill so we are first only going to release a battle only mod.


    Plot

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    XIII century. Asia engulfing in the flame of war. Various powers struggle only for victory and domination.

    From the harsh steppe of Mongolia hordes of mounted warriors rode South, and like the storm shattered China beneath their saddle. The Great Dragon of China has fallen. In 1271 Kublai Khan become Khagan and soon the Yuan Empire emerged as the head of the huge Mongol Empire. The power of the Mongol seem unchallengeable.

    Yet the remnant of Southern Song now gathered, ready for their last stand. Although desperate yet should they won the tide may turn again the invaders and Chinese people may rose again. The fate of once mighty civilization hang in the balance

    To the East, Korea soon found itself victim to the Mongol. Yet this brave country won't give up easily. Can the kingdom hold back the tide!?

    Further from the islands of Japan the Samurai's army silently watching the bloody conflicts on the continent. Isolated from the mainland and rather safe again Mongol's horses, but how long?

    From the India sub-continent, the Delhi Sultanate now become the front lines again the Mongol invaders. It's both the curse and the bless. In one hand, facing such foes are grim but in the other hand it's the opportunity to unite India sub-continent and beyond. Not to say Indian elephants are many!

    To the South, beyond the jungle and mountains, Đại Việt, the powerful kingdom begin to stir under the new Trần dynasty. Here at the delta of Red River the mighty Mongol hordes witness its humiliate defeat. Should the horde come again, the children of Dragon Lord and Heavenly Angel will fight zealously not only for their freedom but domination.

    The Champa kingdom located further in the south however facing the grim destinies. The Mongol secured the beachhead, the Khmer in the West and the shadow of Daiviet overlord looming from the North.

    Meanwhile the triple war for domination between Khmer Empire, Kingdom of Sukhothai and Pagan Kingdom have no sign to end.

    For all that bloody conflicts, it's not enough. Powerful pirates fleets, assailed from hundreds ports of Java pouring to the mainland, carry with them dread warriors. They will be a crocodiles roaming across the sea, striking, burning, looting. But it's just a first step of the Great King.

    Asia 1279AD. The sky will be darken, the land will stand red. The world will burn with...TOTAL WAR


    Factions

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    Playable

    {HUNS} Mongols Empire

    {EMPIRE_EAST_REBELS} Empire of Japan

    {EMPIRE_EAST} Kamakura Shogunate

    {LOMBARDI} Asikaga Shogunate

    {CELTS} Korean Kingdom

    {EMPIRE_WEST} Southern Song Dynasty

    {BERBERS} Dai Viet Empire

    {ALEMANNI} Champa Kingdom

    {SARMATIANS} Khmer Empire

    {SAXONS} Sukhothai Kingdom

    {VANDALS} Pagan Kingdom

    {SASSANIDS} Delhi Sultanate

    {GOTHS} Singasari Sultanate

    {OSTROGOTHS} Hindu States

    {FRANKS} Sriwijaya

    {BURGUNDII} Majapahit

    Unplayable

    {ROMANO_BRITISH} Ming Dynasty

    {EMPIRE_WEST_REBELS} Chagatai Ulus

    {ROXOLANI} Tibetan tribes

    {SLAVS} Timurids



    Map (including faction's symbol):
    So far
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    UNIT
    Burma/Pagan Kingdom
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    Royal War Elephant


    Pagan Crossbowmen


    Pagan Elephant Archers


    Pagan Archers


    Pagan Light Swordsman


    Pagan Skirmishers


    Pagan Heavy Swordsman


    Pagan Regular Cavalry



    Delhi Sultanate
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    Indian Elephant Archers


    Indian Longbowmen


    Indian Pikeman


    Indian Armored Horse Archers


    Indian Maceman


    Indian Horse Archers


    Indian Cataphract


    Indian Armored Elephants


    Japan/Taira
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    Samurai archers

    Samurai Swordsman

    Samurai cavalry

    Nodachi Samurai (Woa the heritage of Shogun TW is here )

    Kamikaze Infantry (equivalent to Warrior Monk !)

    Samurai Horse Archers



    Daiviet

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    Viet Peasant


    Viet Guerrilla (from ancient times to 20th !)


    Local Spearmen


    Marine Infantry

    PS: I'll be happy if someone change their color black, shield become round and black with white contours)

    Viet Regular


    Viet Halberdier


    Viet Pikeman


    Viet Archer


    Imperial Guards

    The most elite trooper within Daiviet army.

    Historical note:
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    At the Battle of Thien Mac. 500 Imperial Guards and Prince trooper under General/Marquis Trần Bình Trọng stand again more than 40000 Mongolian horseman and naval troops for 3 days, they fought until every weapons was broken, most of the men was killed, then the remain escape. The noble Marquis however was capture during the battle. Then he proved his unswerving loyalty when the Mongol tried to bride him. At the last the Mongol killed him. The general who command the Mongolian vanguard also commit suicide because he was stalled and unable to catch the two Daiviet Emperors


    Brave Trooper (Mad and drunk berserkers with heavy armor and huge blade!)


    Imperial Grenadier (people always like something can go boom!)


    Viet Lancer


    Imperial Horse Archers


    Imperial Cataphract (Heavily armored cavalrymen. Only few in number tho)
    Update later

    Viet War Elephants



    Korea
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    Consisted of

    Korean Spear Militia
    Korean Axeman
    Korean Spearman
    Korean Heavy Infantry
    Korean Swordsman
    Korean Archer
    Korean Hwarang
    Korean Rocketeer
    Korean Lancer
    Korean Cavalry
    Korean Mounted Hwarang
    Korean Horse Archers
    Korean Mounted Rocketeer
    Korean Magonel



    Team

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    nhinhonhinho
    kirush2
    Ussaid_modder
    Conclamatus
    Shopperkimpy
    DragonFly
    Pazu the Kitsu

    Special thanks to:
    Phananhtom
    Spike
    Ran no Jidai mod team
    Rome Medieval mod team
    XGM mod team
    3 Kingdom Total War mod team

    Note: This section can be incomplete. If I forgot someone so please let's me know





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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    I don't think suchyou should changes The Mongol by Liao dynasty and should add on the following country;dai viet, champa ,North Korean, South Korea, Japan and some countries South-East Asia as:
    singapore,laos,thailand,myanmar,dongtimor,indonesia and cambodia however Laos can change by khmer dai viet is should do on ly_tran or nguyen also be

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    smells like All under heaven's timeline

    well? they are allready dead maybe

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    100 hundreds viewer and 2 comments and no help

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    Spike and Soarin will help I bet
    not in the mapping though

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    No one help me (

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    ? what do ya meant?

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    I hope will add a map japan, north korea and shouth korea on it

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    ? what do ya meant?
    Uhm we desperately need a mapper or at least someone know how to change the owner of settlement

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    mapper... hmm... do you meant you allready have units?

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    Most of 'em XD.

    PS: actually we're going to borrow some of 'em from several mods (high priority for death mods tho :-P )

    Obviously that's just a first step.

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    just be careful, dead mods doesn't meant you can violate their permissions, especially with un-contactable mod leader and modeller, please refer to mod's permission first before borrowing their units. Using modder's work without permissions is not good.

    ya feel free to take anything from the old nusantara though

    in the other hand, where is Soarin?

    EDIT:

    in RTW, there could only 20 factions separated in 6 cultures (7 cultures if you know a good coder)

    so is there any faction lists?

    EDIT AGAIN:

    the map is only China? what extent of SEA you want to expand? *duh, hope this doesn't end up as AUH copy in RTW*
    Last edited by Spike; April 13, 2012 at 02:11 AM.

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post

    ya feel free to take anything from the old nusantara though
    No you cannot take the music files especially the one used for Malay and intended to be used for Malay (the Malay Gamelans obviously).

    And you should ask Pluto for the UIs, faction logos etc etc
    Last edited by intifadanyz; April 13, 2012 at 04:19 AM.

    Nusantara Total War: Portuguese Invasion
    1511 - 1654 AD: A mod about Colonial Age in South East Asia

    Nusantara TW (TWCenter.Net); Nusantara TW (totalwar.org)

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by intifadanyz View Post
    No you cannot take the music files especially the one used for Malay and intended to be used for Malay (the Malay Gamelans obviously).

    And you should ask Pluto for the UIs, faction logos etc etc
    I meant the models, not the music sorry

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    Using mobile phone to answer ^.^

    1. Let's me say again. We're just gamers and our modding skill are very limit. That's why all we can do is change the settlerment owner on campaign map and add/delete units, faction. However it's seem nobody are going to help in this i think we should learn to made the map ourselves

    2.Faction lists in the first post.
    Mongol
    Xi Xia
    Jin
    Song
    Tibet
    Dali
    Daiviet

    These faction are fit with our current China map. IF we have to made the map for ourselves then it is possible to add Champa

    3. We may use Nusantara units

    4. We don't try to create the AUH Rome version. However... Personally the map about Second Mongol invasion of Daiviet is what i like more. However it will be too easy for the Mongol/Yuan faction since it control 3/4 map and Daoviet are not the Spartan of Asia! Yet again if we have to made the map for ourselves so i will reconsider about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhinhonhinho View Post
    4. We don't try to create the AUH Rome version. However... Personally the map about Second Mongol invasion of Daiviet is what i like more. However it will be too easy for the Mongol/Yuan faction since it control 3/4 map and Daoviet are not the Spartan of Asia! Yet again if we have to made the map for ourselves so i will reconsider about it
    I'll say this is interesting, how about cutting the map to the north and expanding to the south? I meant the mongol empire could be controlling only small parts, but they are horde-able and everywhere, just like the Norwegians do in Viking Invasion II

    remember that mongols invade as far south as Java too... if we only put the northern border at Huang He and western border at Kunlun, it would be pretty much doable if we expand south to Java and half of Kalimantan

    making Mongols start with distinct advantage, and not playable on normal campaign may also help

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    I know but it's mean create a new map

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhinhonhinho View Post
    I know but it's mean create a new map
    you'll end up creating new map anyway

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    Yet we don't have mapper >.< . That's a main problem

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    Default Re: Mod for Medieval East Asia

    well while no mapper would possibly help if you don't have any clear things about overall mods first

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