Best Barbarian faction for Multiplayer???

[Vercingetorix The Great]

Id say Gaul, I have beaten Germania several times fairly easily online. the berserkers are no match for foresters. Spain is easily the weakest. I have seen my chosen swordsmen rout bull warriors 1on1 with a warcry. There cav is decent for barbarians also.

What do you think?

[HERO_331]

Hmm. It's definitely between Gaul and Germania. I also think it depends on what faction you are facing. Problem with Germania is that a lot of their units have low defense. Scythians, too, might be worth a mention because of their good cavalry.

[Vercingetorix The Great]

We can't forget Britian, they are pretty good. Germania's infantry suck besides berserkers. I mean my naked fanatics destroyed there axeman. But if Germany has cav with there berserkers and they hammer and anvil strike its impossible to win.

[HERO_331]

I've never done well with Briton, but that's just me. Yeah, Germania also gets a phalanx unit, although not a great one.

[caesar_37th]

Briton is the best on CWB rules. If you have to argue with that trying beating chariots as a barbarian. After that its Scythia, then Germania/Dacia depending on what you're good at.

[Alexanderos]

Spain is easily the weakest.

Spain is bad ? Iberian infantry can easily take on any kind of swordsmen , due to their better training and if barbarians are charged from the back with round shield cavalry they are just little ducks!

[Willowran]

Germania, hands down. Their cav eats chariots, and is the most powerful melee barbarian cav, and amongst the most powerful cav in th entire game.

They also have access to berserkers, the most powerful special infantry, and argueably the most powerful unit in the game.

Their archers are not terrible, and

They have powerful attack infantry. Especially their night raiders, which terrify the enemy.

Scythians run out of ammo too quickly, and then have to try melee-ing it up with the majority of the enemy army, which never works very well with HAs.

Yes, spain really is bad. Ilberian infantry will get slaughtered by nearly every other same-tier unit in a head on one-one fight (warcry will kill them, as will pila). And using round-sheilds effectively does not get around the fact that the round sheilds just cannot compare to other barbarian cavalry. Its not to say that spain is terrible, but it is definitely not a contender for best barbarian faction--not by a long shot.

Britain is a close contender, for their moral-effecting druids, and chariots, but their other units are not as powerful, whereas germania has moer well-rounded strength.

Gaul is definitely not it. Their only strength lies in their forrester warbands.

[Aymer de Valence]

Germania

Spain is bad ? Iberian infantry can easily take on any kind of swordsmen , due to their better training and if barbarians are charged from the back with round shield cavalry they are just little ducks!

Ahhhh i've never had much faith in Iberian infantry, they seem to run away all too easily. I do LOVE Spain's scutarii though. It's a shame though, apart from them and bull warriors (overpriced), they don't really have anything, just a whole load of slingers and skirmishers

[xinix]

spain's scutarii are awesome! they can take on any barbarian infantry with ease. It's a shame though that they aren't in an organised line (which is weird because spanish mercenaries are:S)

Combined with their cav i have no problems taking on the other barbarian tribes(Y)

[red171]

Defo between Germania and britainia.

If you can manage to let some fodder troop eat up roman pila to allow chosen axemen in close as unscathed by misslie as possible they can defeat even urban cohorts. (axe effective vs armour)

Gothic cavalry are only outmatched by cataphract (catas have a close range mace)

gaul are rubbish, foresters are way too expensive to be effective, I'd choose dacia over gaul to have cheaper archer units and falxmen

[Vercingetorix The Great]

maybe its just because most german armies I face are Berserker spams, and foresters>Berserkers

[red171]

hmm well i agree with you there!

berserkers should be used sparingly if even at all lol berserkers will not last long against archers

[caesar_37th]

Guys the best faction all around is the British.

Chariots kill cavalry, and AP Head Hurlers beat infantry. Its a skirmish faction that, when played well, goes toe to toe with almost every faction in the game. After that its scythia for its skirmishing ability followed by Germania.

Ask any good online player, CWB 10-20k normal and they will say Britannia is king of the barbarians. Anyone who states otherwise is either misinformed, plays high money, or is extremely rush specific.

[Genius of the Restoration]

Guys the best faction all around is the British.

Chariots kill cavalry, and AP Head Hurlers beat infantry. Its a skirmish faction

Very much this. If you're not playing Britannia as a skirmishing faction, you probably aren't aware of how effective it can be.

Gaul isn't very good because they lack affordable archers and good cavalry. Dacia can be pretty good. Scythia is obviously very good with Head Hunting Maidens, Archer Warbands and HAs. Germania is also good. I'd rank them like this (though let it be known that I'm not a MP guru):

Britannia
Scythia
Germania
Dacia
Gaul
Spain

Maybe someone who plays more MP would like to change this order or comment on it.

[Hopit]

Scythia or germania

[TheFoolOnTheHill]

Id say Gaul, I have beaten Germania several times fairly easily online. the berserkers are no match for foresters. Spain is easily the weakest. I have seen my chosen swordsmen rout bull warriors 1on1 with a warcry. There cav is decent for barbarians also.

What do you think?

Gaul is one of the worst factions overall unless you play high money and can afford foresters and then they still suck

[TheFoolOnTheHill]

Spain kills Gaul
i once played a game Gaul vs Spain Spain won next game same person different teams Spain won
Thrace is also a barb and id rank them 4th on that list

[Genius of the Restoration]

Ah yeah, I forgot about Thrace. Dacia would be miles ahead of them thanks to vastly superior missiles in Archer Warbands and Mercenary HAs though. Thrace really wouldn't be able to do anything against these missiles because Thrace's cavalry is terrible. Hmm, I'd probably put them around the bottom.

Are Balearic Slingers alone enough to make Spain stronger than Gaul, or is there something else you're thinking of?

[Vindictus]

I'd say in terms of combat, Scythia would crush all barbarian factions.


Of course, by CWB rules, Briton seems the most viable option, possessing great infantry and a variety of cavalry/missiles. Gaul just eats in the dust, imo. Their cavalry is ... well, what exactly is their cavalry? Spain doesn't do so hot, possessing Scutarii and Bull Warriors. Aside from that, they lack real meat.


It narrows down to Scythia and Briton. Judging from strength, I'd say Scythia. Judging from CWB rules, I'd say Briton.

[Alexanderos]

Scythia has axemen , that suck as infantry , that's it. Restly , horse archers ftw !

Dacia has a nice roster for a barbarian faction , with chosen swordsmen and chosen archers. Pretyy decent