The NRA...

[Eric]

God, what gall this guy has. Mr. Bush visiting Baghdad in these circumstances is more inappropriate and unsensitive then Charles Heston, Leader of the National Rifle Association visiting Littleton not even a week after the Columbine Massacre.

[MadBurgerMaker]

God, what gall this guy has. Mr. Bush visiting Baghdad in these circumstances is more inappropriate and unsensitive then Charles Heston, Leader of the National Rifle Association visiting Littleton not even a week after the Columbine Massacre.

The NRA cancelled everything except for some sort of voting thing in Denver immediately after Columbine.

[John Wayne]

I don't think that can be compared to this Eric. After all, the NRA is an organization of people who like to watch living things suffer and then die. Bushzilla just likes to see things figh eachother in hopes they both die.

[Hub'ite]

After all, the NRA is an organization of people who like to watch living things suffer and then die.

What? The NRA is the National Rifle Association. The members are mostly hunters.

[danzig]

God, what gall this guy has. Mr. Bush visiting Baghdad in these circumstances is more inappropriate and unsensitive then Charles Heston, Leader of the National Rifle Association visiting Littleton not even a week after the Columbine Massacre.

Wow someone still tossing around Moore's bs? http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/...0422nra3.shtml All events except the meeting were canceled which evidently is required yearly to maintain its no profit status. Ill assume you know that Heston didnt actually give the speech in the movie at Littleton but it was a year later in another state...something Moore didnt feel the need to make clear.

[John Wayne]

Moore does that a lot doesn't he? Kinda why I stoped listening to his bs, and why I refuse to listen to Ann Coulter. Both are surprisingy similar in many ways.

snicker*

Now lets see them deny that!

[The Fish]

Yeah, they need the AR-15s and Saturday Night Specials for hunting deer, dammit!

[MadBurgerMaker]

Yeah, they need the AR-15s and Saturday Night Specials for hunting deer, dammit!

Heh...no. AR-15s are good for hunting small game and target shooting. Small, cheap handguns (Saturday Night Specials) are semi entertaining for shooting on a pistol range.

Edit: Thanks for the split Garb. :original:

[Garbarsardar]

Split from the Bush visits Bagdad thread

[Lasher]

God, what gall this guy has. Mr. Bush visiting Baghdad in these circumstances is more inappropriate and unsensitive then Charles Heston, Leader of the National Rifle Association visiting Littleton not even a week after the Columbine Massacre.

Weren't the guns that Eric and Dylan obtained illegally? I know the bombs they had were homemade. In fact most guns for murders are obtained illegally so banning them won't do much good.

[John Wayne]

Those guns were obtained legally, by a female friend of theirs. If they had tried to get them guns, they would have bee stopped (laws tend to do stuff like that). Unfortunatly, they stil got them guns. What sux, is that Wal-Mart sold the bullets for the weapons (whch are real WMD's in my opinion, but lets not get into that).

[MadBurgerMaker]

What sux, is that Wal-Mart sold the bullets for the weapons (whch are real WMD's in my opinion, but lets not get into that).

How old were they anyway? I dont remember. I do know that the legal ages to buy ammunition are 18 (rifle) and 21 (handgun). If they (or the one buying) were 18, and assuming they were buying for rifles (again..i dont remember what they were using), then Wal-Mart did nothing wrong.

Edit: Harris was 18. They used shotguns, rifles, and TEC-9s. Did they get the 9mm ammunition from Wal-Mart, or were they supplied that by the guys who got them the guns in the first place?

[Farnan]

Those guns were obtained legally, by a female friend of theirs. If they had tried to get them guns, they would have bee stopped (laws tend to do stuff like that). Unfortunatly, they stil got them guns. What sux, is that Wal-Mart sold the bullets for the weapons (whch are real WMD's in my opinion, but lets not get into that).

That means they were obtained illegally through a strawman purchase...

[John Wayne]

That means they were obtained illegally through a strawman purchase...

Technicalities! All that matters is that they got them.

Interesting note, they have a website! Or at least had, I'm not sure if it is up anymore, but their was/is a site BY Harris(or was it Kleiold (whatever the other stupid brats name was)) that talked about their hatred and angst and ho to make a pipe bomb.

It is/was a good read if you needed to laugh at some stupidity.

[Rhinosaur]

I'm not a member of the NRA, but I believe gun control is a bad idea. To ban the legal sale of firearms to law abiding citizens is to encourage their use by criminals imo.

[MaximiIian]

I'm not a member of the NRA, but I believe gun control is a bad idea. To ban the legal sale of firearms to law abiding citizens is to encourage their use by criminals imo.

I agree, but to an extent, I also disagree.
Instead of making guns illegal for civilian purchase outright, instead, let's allow civilians able to buy only certain firearms...like, certain types of handguns, muskets, blunderbusses, shotguns, and some types of semiautomatic and repeating rifles. BUT, no concealed weapons.

[Holger Danske]

I'm not a member of the NRA, but I believe gun control is a bad idea. To ban the legal sale of firearms to law abiding citizens is to encourage their use by criminals imo.

Then please tell me why the gun control is working in most countries in the world? Things like free acces to assault rifles and the NRA is damaging the US, already horrible low, image.

[Oldgamer]

Then please tell me why the gun control is working in most countries in the world? Things like free acces to assault rifles and the NRA is damaging the US, already horrible low, image.

How many people have been killed by the illegal use of assault rifles, say, in the past ten years? Cheap, illegal handguns: Many. But assault rifles?

[Tom Paine]

How many people have been killed by the illegal use of assault rifles, say, in the past ten years? Cheap, illegal handguns: Many. But assault rifles?

Making all handguns illegal makes them less easy to access and less easy to enter into the black market as well as driving their price up.

[Oldgamer]

Making all handguns illegal makes them less easy to access and less easy to enter into the black market as well as driving their price up.

Making all handguns illegal merely creates a black market, for them, driving up their costs. The handguns will still be available on that market, but law-abiding people will not buy them. Hence the old saw, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

@Holger Danske
There are many times that I wish that our country was as peaceful, law-abiding, and homogenous as yours. But that simply isn't the reality in America. Three hundred million people cannot be persuaded to obey the law simply by enacting one.

In the meantime, legal gun owners need access to their weapons for legal purposes, and as a means of home defense. Please note that I have had two occasions in which to protect my family from armed intruders. Their guns were illegal, and mine were legal. In one instance, had I been unarmed and killed by the intruder, a convicted sexual predator would have had his way in my home, with four underage girls.

Although the NRA is anathema to those opposed to guns, in every issue of The American Rifleman verifiable instances of lawabiding people defending themselves with their legal weapons are presented.