Are Generals too vulnerable to agents? FOTS

[nameless]

This was a problem in NTW and it seems to carry over to FOTS but not as bad but still an issue.

As I pressed harder at the AI eventually the AI started sending Geishas, Ninjas, and Veterans to target my Generals.

Even though many of my Generals were very loyal and high ranking they still either got assassinated or seduced by the enemy agents.

Even if it's a low ranking agent they still push through and kill my generals. It's got to the point that I have my own agents scouting ahead and taking them down before they get to my Generals.

What's the best way to protect the Generals from assassinations? They usually have a veteran but even a high ranking veteran is extremely vulnerable.

[Ferdiad]

How have you upgraded your Veterans, that could be the problem.

[nameless]

See the thing is I focus my veterans on military adminstration to boost my armies so I guess that makes them vulnerable but still, does boosting the other stats help protect the generals too? Haven't actually looked that deep into it.

[Ferdiad]

Yes, you can make them very effective agent killers.

[nameless]

Oh they're already effective killers. It's the protecting part. If I attach them to the Generals I want them to at least protect them.

[Ferdiad]

I have no idea then. I rarely get attacked by agents.

[Felixlynch777]

I don't often have trouble with agents either.

[Lazarus]

Try adding a Shinobi on top of your Veteran. Together they've pretty much shielded my generals 100% from hostile actions. I'm currently training a Geisha to remind my men that the enemy aren't the only ones with women...

[Gaizokubanou]

Try adding a Shinobi on top of your Veteran. Together they've pretty much shielded my generals 100% from hostile actions. I'm currently training a Geisha to remind my men that the enemy aren't the only ones with women...

What he said. Generals are so vulnerable to agents so you must have high level agents of your own to counter enemy agents. It's not too bad because you can level up agents so easily.

[Cruzz]

What he said. Generals are so vulnerable to agents so you must have high level agents of your own to counter enemy agents. It's not too bad because you can level up agents so easily.

In the worst case scenario of playing as a Republic, you're at war with everyone and don't have access to shinsengumi/ishinshishi. Had one legendary game get completely wrecked when the AI suddenly went overzealous with agent use and started converting and assassinating all my characters. Around 5 turns of that and all my high level agents who were within a couple of turns of enemy provinces and all my generals who weren't working as admirals were pushing up daisies. When every turn 3 different agents from the AI will try to kill each one of yours, the odds aren't really in your favor . God knows what made the AI go nuts like that anyway, usually it's pretty passive with agents (very occasionally enchanting mostly foreign advisors, and sometimes distracting gimpy little armies)

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

Yeah. Man, I wish the enemy would use MORE agents.

I've never really had them use agents against me, not for real anyway. Obama keeps sending Geishas into my territory, but it doesn't do anything with them.

[Lazarus]

My enemies are constantly spamming me with Shinobi... just as well though. My Foreign vets aren't going to generate experience on their own...

[Ferdiad]

My enemies are constantly spamming me with Shinobi... just as well though. My Foreign vets aren't going to generate experience on their own...

Thats why you stick them in a stack so that they can get XP and train your army at the same time.

[Slaists]

Stupid question, how do the vets 'train' an army? I mean, what is the in-game effect? Faster replenishment? X-p gain?

[Ferdiad]

XP gain I think.

[DeliCiousTZM]

Yes agents are to strong, Had my daimyo dueled by a lvl 1 foreigner veteran and died and this is not an uncommen occurance. Im employing 5 ninjas that are assasinating everything that tries to sneak in but sometimes there is to many of them.

[DeliCiousTZM]

Foreigner veterans are the easiest agent to level up leave them in a castle or army time does the rest.

[B. W.]

Question: "Are generals too vunerable to agents?"

Answer: Only if they happen to cross paths with one.


It doesn't seem to matter how many loyalty points I accumulate for generals, if a pretty geisha shows up they are 'enchanted,' change sides, and go galavanting accross the coutryside causing mayhem. It usually takes me two or three turns to hunt them down which takes time off my orginal plans. Solution: Quit putting generals with armies. I've found that armies do just as well without a general. In the past I've lost generals in battle and the whole army would collapse. If you don't put a general with them, you don't have to worry about it. Just leave your generals in the cities as administraters and let them get fat and party with the ladies.

[Humble Warrior]

It works both ways. Your agents and advisers seem to kill enemy Generals with ease. Even on Legendary. It should be harder. No one would want to be a General if it was this easy to get killed out of actual combat on the field. It was done about right in the default game.

Also yours and the AI General should be able to refuse a duel from an enemy adviser, even if it may look cowardly.

[Thefallenhun]

I don't have this problem, but I guess it's because I'm almost always traveling with a dueling spec foreign veteran in my stack, as well as a well trained Ishen Ishi. My issue is that agentry can be a one sided tactic that doesn't work on the AI, most especially general assassination. If you kill all the male members of the family, the AI just spawns new ones to compensate, making it nearly impossible to behead an army. You often see AI stacks with 4-5 general units in them.