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    Default The Marka barded horse project submod (update 02/05/12)


    Hi guys. I decided to create some new barded horses for TATW using the Marka horses created by the Rusichi team. Actually I just reskinned the horses created by the Rusich team with a ME theme. The Rusichi team gave us the material to create any kind of horses we want. It only takes a little modding skills to do it. So I have created 3 new mounts for Gondor.
    Dol Amroth horse:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    DA horse without metal piece:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    The rider is the Dol Amroth squire from the old Taro_M mod.
    Minas Tirith horse:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    The riders are the Knights of MT which are part of the new unit pack by Taro_M
    And a version for the Golasgil household knights from Anfalas created by Curufin:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Arnor barded horse:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    CREDITS ALL CREDITS TO THE RUSICHI TEAM, KINGKONG and ANTHONIUSII and big thanks to the whole TATW devs for this great mod!
    This only include the horses, Im not releasing any material from Taro_M or Curufin or vanilla TATW or any other mod. RIDERS NOT INCLUDED

    Files in the attachment (old version). Instructions (always remember to create backups)
    DOWNLOAD LINK New version in the link HERE.

    README!
    This version includes the models and textures but it doesnt include the necessary text files to be added to TATW. I will post the info necessary to add them manually below. In the near future I plan to release a plug and play version for TATW 3.1. Until then, you need to paste the folder in the download to your ATTW folder and add this info manually to the battle_models file and descr_mount file and them assign the horse in the export_descr_unit file. In the meantime, if anybody makes a plug and play version I will be very thankful and credit you as coder.
    Barded horses for Gondor instructions:
    copy this text to the battle_models file and increase the serialization number by 5

    "19 gondor_barded_horse
    1.12 1
    65 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/gondor_horse_marka_lod0.mesh 10000
    2
    4 merc
    73 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/gondor_horse_barded.texture
    73 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/gondor_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/turks_mount_barded_horse3_sprite.spr
    6 sicily
    73 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/gondor_horse_barded.texture
    73 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/gondor_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/turks_mount_barded_horse3_sprite.spr
    0 1
    5 Horse
    14 fs_horse_marka 0
    0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    21 golasgil_barded_horse
    1.12 1
    65 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/gondor_horse_marka_lod0.mesh 10000
    2
    4 merc
    75 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/golasgil_horse_barded.texture
    75 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/golasgil_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/sicily_mount_barded_horse_sprite.spr
    6 sicily
    75 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/golasgil_horse_barded.texture
    75 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/golasgil_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/sicily_mount_barded_horse_sprite.spr
    0 1
    5 Horse
    14 fs_horse_marka 0
    0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    16 dol_barded_horse
    1.12 1
    65 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/gondor_horse_marka_lod0.mesh 10000
    2
    4 merc
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/da_horse_barded.texture
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/da_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/sicily_mount_barded_horse_sprite.spr
    6 sicily
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/da_horse_barded.texture
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/da_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/sicily_mount_barded_horse_sprite.spr
    0 1
    5 Horse
    14 fs_horse_marka 0
    0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    19 winged_barded_horse
    1.12 1
    65 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/winged_horse_marka_lod0.mesh 10000
    2
    4 merc
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/wi_horse_barded.texture
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/wi_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/sicily_mount_barded_horse_sprite.spr
    6 sicily
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/wi_horse_barded.texture
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/wi_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/sicily_mount_barded_horse_sprite.spr
    0 1
    5 Horse
    14 fs_horse_marka 0
    0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    18 arnor_barded_horse
    1.12 1
    64 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/arnor_horse_marka_lod0.mesh 10000
    3
    9 byzantium
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/ar_horse_barded.texture
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/ar_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/turks_mount_barded_horse3_sprite.spr
    4 merc
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/ar_horse_barded.texture
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/ar_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/turks_mount_barded_horse3_sprite.spr
    5 turks
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/ar_horse_barded.texture
    69 unit_models/Mounts/heavy_horse_marka/textures/ar_horse_normal.texture
    49 unit_sprites/turks_mount_barded_horse3_sprite.spr
    0 1
    5 Horse
    14 fs_horse_marka 0
    0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0"

    Copy this text do descr_mount:

    "type barded horse4 ;;;;; Gondor Barded horse
    class horse
    model gondor_barded_horse
    radius 1.2
    x_radius 0.5
    y_offset 0.7
    height 2.5
    mass 3.25
    banner_height 0
    bouyancy_offset 1.8
    water_trail_effect horse_water_trail
    root_node_height 1.0
    rider_offset 0.0, 0.38, 0.70

    type barded horse5 ;;;;; Golasgil Barded Horse
    class horse
    model golasgil_barded_horse
    radius 1.2
    x_radius 0.5
    y_offset 0.7
    height 2.5
    mass 3.25
    banner_height 0
    bouyancy_offset 1.8
    water_trail_effect horse_water_trail
    root_node_height 1.0
    rider_offset 0.0, 0.38, 0.70

    type barded horse6 ;;;;; Dol Amroth Barded Horse
    class horse
    model dol_barded_horse
    radius 1.2
    x_radius 0.5
    y_offset 0.7
    height 2.5
    mass 3.25
    banner_height 0
    bouyancy_offset 1.8
    water_trail_effect horse_water_trail
    root_node_height 1.0
    rider_offset 0.0, 0.38, 0.70

    type barded horse7 ;;;;; Dol Amroth Winged Horse
    class horse
    model winged_barded_horse
    radius 1.2
    x_radius 0.5
    y_offset 0.7
    height 2.5
    mass 3.25
    banner_height 0
    bouyancy_offset 1.8
    water_trail_effect horse_water_trail
    root_node_height 1.0
    rider_offset 0.0, 0.38, 0.70

    type barded horse8 ;;;;; Arnor Barded Horse
    class horse
    model arnor_barded_horse
    radius 1.2
    x_radius 0.5
    y_offset 0.7
    height 2.5
    mass 3.25
    banner_height 0
    bouyancy_offset 1.8
    water_trail_effect horse_water_trail
    root_node_height 1.0
    rider_offset 0.0, 0.38, 0.70"

    Replace the TATW folder with the one I posted and just choose whichever Gondorian unit you want and replace
    its mount by any of the new entries (barded horse6, barded horse5, barded horse4) like in this example:

    "type gondor knights minas tirith
    dictionary gondor_knights_minas_tirith ; Knights of Minas Tirith
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type Heavy
    banner faction main_cavalry
    banner holy crusade
    soldier gondor_knights_minas_tirith, 30, 0, 1
    officer gondor_captain_early_flag
    officer gondor_captain_early_flag
    mount barded horse4
    mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
    attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, knight, can_formed_charge, hardy, free_upkeep_unit
    formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square
    stat_health 1, 3
    stat_pri 7, 9, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 9, 3, 6, metal
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 6
    stat_ground -1, -2, -3, -2
    stat_mental 15, disciplined, trained
    stat_charge_dist 45
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 2, 950, 370, 110, 110, 950, 2, 250
    armour_ug_levels 4
    armour_ug_models gondor_knights_minas_tirith
    ownership sicily
    era 0 sicily
    era 1 sicily
    era 2 sicily
    recruit_priority_offset 15"

    Anybody is free to use it in any mod they wish. Just credit me for the textures and the Rusichi team for the Marka horses plus KK and AnthoniusII.
    Last edited by paradamed; May 02, 2012 at 05:26 PM.

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    Nice textures
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    Thanks!

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    Epic u include them in PCP?

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    Nice work!

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    Good stuff. I already sent PM to paradamed so I can use this in my project.

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    Concerning the Dol Amroth horse, is it normal that the color of the barding doesn't match the color of the horseman? It seems kinda weird to me.
    Other than that, great work of you
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    you are better suited to that reading activity, and suggest you go back to it.
    I guess it could work for some guys with Battle of Middle Earth as well...

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    Great work!
    EDIT:
    A ctd cuased thanks to the lack of the word "mount" before the horse's mesh.
    Always use that form:
    mount_Gondorian_barded_horse_lod0.mesh
    You should create a plug and play patch with all the needed changes in every folder that are required.
    Atleast for the main TATW 3.1.
    Last edited by AnthoniusII; April 09, 2012 at 03:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderman2 View Post
    Epic u include them in PCP?
    Actually Im not really part of pcp. I just did some minor contribution to alreadyded's project. Alreadyded is a one man army, hehe. If he wants he can include them. It is a free resource for anybody that wants to use them, just need to credit the original creators (Rusichi team) since I basically did a retexture of their great horses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Khay View Post
    Concerning the Dol Amroth horse, is it normal that the color of the barding doesn't match the color of the horseman? It seems kinda weird to me.
    Other than that, great work of you
    I can easily change the colour so it will match any horsemen. I used the basic colour of Curufin's DA soldier as test. As soon as Taro_M releases his DA units I can make a matching colour just by sampling the colour of the unit and applying in to the texture.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII View Post
    Great work!
    EDIT:
    A ctd cuased thanks to the lack of the word "mount" before the horse's mesh.
    Always use that form:
    mount_Gondorian_barded_horse_lod0.mesh
    You should create a plug and play patch with all the needed changes in every folder that are required.
    Atleast for the main TATW 3.1.
    Weird. In my version it worked with that exactly coding info, no mount in the name of the entry.
    Taro_M and Anthonius, check your pm. I sent you the base psd (phototshop format) files. It will make it easier to work with the files. I needed to do some changes by using a new hue/saturation layer instead of just simple recolouring. You will understand when you open the psd files. Feel free to use them the way you want, just credit the Rusichi team.

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    Gentlemen with the primary help of paradamed you may have all unchanged horses from TATW 3.1 changed.
    Here is a small teaser of how it can be done.
    Soon a tiny tutorial will be released of how anyone can replace and modify marka horses.


    This will be my contribution to paradame's permision to use his barded horse model. I always return the favors.
    CREDITS:
    Rusichi/Marka team for the horses.
    TATW team for the head gear.
    Paradamed for the wonderfull armor texture.
    Rep them all!
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    Perfect!

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    The model is 100% ready.
    Bridles added...
    All it needs is new normal maping in the "new" textures (metal parts are too shiny because i have 0% expirience in normal maping).
    The new model will be sent to paradamed for further skining work.


    NOTICE: I have no mods installed in TATW 3.1 yet.
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    Great work! Rep to both of you!

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    Hey, Anthonius, that is very nice! Pls send me the models and I'll see what I can do.

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    Check you pms.
    Also check the ms3d model that has some vertices re-assignment on the low armor ones based on TGC armored horses expirience. The twicks reduse some of the upleasant effects of the armors when horses galop.
    Dale uses two similar horses.
    If you provide the needed new armor textures based on those that exist we are going to replace them too.

    EDIT: Rhun has a model that can be replaced.
    And we can make a horse for the Rohan bodyguards based on the horse of th eRohan King in the movie.
    Last edited by AnthoniusII; April 10, 2012 at 01:10 PM.
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    "Spartans do not ask how many (enemies are) but where they are"!
    XXI Armored Brigade's motto.
    The Greek Secret (or why they will fight again if it will be necessary or why they do not sell their history).


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    Cool. I will work on these asap.
    Here's the pic of the new horses with the correct normal. All thanks to Anthonius, KK and the Rusichi team. All I did was the texture for the barding and the normal map. I will wait for KK's permission to release this new horse since the head piece of the horse was created by him. I sent him a pm. In the meantime I will check the structure of the Dale horses and I will start to work on them. Once again, thank you very much Anthonius.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Last edited by paradamed; April 10, 2012 at 03:58 PM.

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    ! now i need to stop working and start playing ...again...lol

    + rep to both

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    I think Rohan could use a couple of barded horse units or three, this way they would be heavier but still remain their characteristic flexibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl of Memory View Post
    I think Rohan could use a couple of barded horse units or three, this way they would be heavier but still remain their characteristic flexibility.
    Rohan could use "barded" horses only for the General's bodyguard based on the concept of the horse the King of Rohan used.
    A combination of what already the TATW team done with body armors of this style.

    But the Rohan horse as the Rhun one will be done last.
    Forthunatly the TATW 3.1 horses with the combination of the new barded horse of paradamed can replace 4-5 already existing horses with out any need of changing anything in the vanilla 3.1.
    We will create a plug and play patch for clean 3.1 mod's version.

    CONFIRMED: paradamed's new textures are much much better now!
    Last edited by AnthoniusII; April 11, 2012 at 04:56 AM.
    There are moments (in history), in which a nation owes,
    if it wants to be considered as a great one, to be able to fight.
    Even without hope of winning. Just because it has to.
    Greek War motto.
    XXI Armored Brigade. Proud that served in that unit in 1996!
    "Spartans do not ask how many (enemies are) but where they are"!
    XXI Armored Brigade's motto.
    The Greek Secret (or why they will fight again if it will be necessary or why they do not sell their history).


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    An update...
    The glory through simplicity.
    Last edited by AnthoniusII; April 11, 2012 at 01:30 PM.
    There are moments (in history), in which a nation owes,
    if it wants to be considered as a great one, to be able to fight.
    Even without hope of winning. Just because it has to.
    Greek War motto.
    XXI Armored Brigade. Proud that served in that unit in 1996!
    "Spartans do not ask how many (enemies are) but where they are"!
    XXI Armored Brigade's motto.
    The Greek Secret (or why they will fight again if it will be necessary or why they do not sell their history).


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