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    Perhaps there could be more russian factions, I mean I know we have The Novgorods, The Keiven Rus and the Cumans but we are missing one faction... Muscovy (Should appear as an end game faction or late campaign faction - Leader: Ivan the Terrible).
    What does everyone think?

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    Yeah it would have been cool having Ivan as a possible general (I mean, William the Conqueror is in the game...), plus there are alot of Italian factions (so therefore, why not more Russian factions), but i dunno, maybe they wanted to conserve game memory for something else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial Redcoat View Post
    Yeah it would have been cool having Ivan as a possible general (I mean, William the Conqueror is in the game...), plus there are alot of Italian factions (so therefore, why not more Russian factions), but i dunno, maybe they wanted to conserve game memory for something else
    Even the number of Italian factions from the game is historically innacurate. There should be a Kingdoms expansion which centers on the Italian peninsule. I mean, look at this map:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindOverdrive View Post
    Even the number of Italian factions from the game is historically innacurate. There should be a Kingdoms expansion which centers on the Italian peninsule. I mean, look at this map:

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    And that is what mods are for. I'm sure you can find one

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    Default Re: More Russian Factions

    I think this game was mainly made to show the struggles between Muslim and Catholic nations. Russia at the time was an orthodox nations and is considered a "minor" nation (imo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseagle15 View Post
    I think this game was mainly made to show the struggles between Muslim and Catholic nations. Russia at the time was an orthodox nations and is considered a "minor" nation (imo).
    The Byzantine Empire is also Orthodox so therefore they must be a "minor" faction as well.

    There are a variety of mods that add in more factions for historical accuracy. I know there are at least a couple that actually have Muscovy. I think Eras Total Conquest has Muscovy. You should check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    The Byzantine Empire is also Orthodox so therefore they must be a "minor" faction as well.

    There are a variety of mods that add in more factions for historical accuracy. I know there are at least a couple that actually have Muscovy. I think Eras Total Conquest has Muscovy. You should check it out.
    Well the Byzantium was one big nation and actually helped the crusaders against the Islamic countries.

    But Russia was just a collection of small states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseagle15 View Post
    Well the Byzantium was one big nation and actually helped the crusaders against the Islamic countries.

    But Russia was just a collection of small states.
    After the fall of Byzantium Russia became the capitol of Orthodoxy. Though, I do think CA should have done more with Russia, but that is what mods are for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    After the fall of Byzantium Russia became the capitol of Orthodoxy. Though, I do think CA should have done more with Russia, but that is what mods are for.
    Oh defiantly, I agree with you their. It kinda seemed lazy on CA's half. Although, as I said earlier I believe the game was just trying to show the struggle between the Catholics and Islamic nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    After the fall of Byzantium Russia became the capitol of Orthodoxy

    that's not true.

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    Default Re: More Russian Factions

    Ok, if you want more Russian factions and a more Russia centered mod, I found that. Rusichi Total War

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    Russia: total war anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseagle15 View Post
    Russia: total war anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial Redcoat View Post
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    Default Re: More Russian Factions

    There's a lot of factions missing from M2TW vanilla.

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    And yet to include all those factions, city-states, ect. would just create a hugh game. Your characters and armies would be shrunk in size, while the map blown up, just to have the room to divided the regions correctly. Or you can just make mods about each region you want, much like kingdoms. Not sure if anyone is creating one for Italy, or any other region. But you also have to imagine that creating a mod specific to certain areas, that units would become very generic. Take Italy for example. They all would basically have Italian militia spearman and some form of passive crossbowman, with a weak form of cavalry. The Britannia campaign could get away with this cause Scotland, Ireland, England, Wales, and Norway are all very different. Not to suggest that Italian, or Russian, or whatever region you want are not all very different in culture. But it is more easily seen when 2 factions have men running around in kilts, one faction is heavily armored and modernized, and one faction comes sailing in on longboats. I would just hope whoever made a Russian specific or Italian specific campaign would make it as diverse as possible between the factions, while keeping at least as much historical accuracy as CA can.

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    Default Re: More Russian Factions

    Here's some provincial campaigns I think Kingdoms should of included:

    The Italian Wars
    Reconquista
    One about russian wars, and the north east in general
    Hundred Years war

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    Default Re: More Russian Factions

    Here's some provincial campaigns I think Kingdoms should of included:

    The Italian Wars
    Reconquista
    One about russian wars, and the north east in general
    Hundred Years war

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    While they're at it, add a bit more provinces and include the Welsh and Irish with that. Even if they're nonplayable- I'd rather have nonplayable factions than rebel factions since the rebel A.I is retarded.

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    I like all this feedback, thanks guys very useful to know I'm not the only one to think these things up, nice to know I'm not mad .

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