Khomeini's grandson slams Tehran regime

[Mr.Flint]

My grandfather's revolution has devoured its children and has strayed from its course, he said.

He went on to suggest U.S. President George Bush should send troops to occupy Iran, al-Arabiya said.

http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.ph...4-024542-6193r
or
http://story.malaysiasun.com/p.x/ct/...734131f70de89/

also
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Pa...sd&ID=SP118406
it looks like the anti clerical movement gets stronger, the question is will it be strong enough?
thoughts?

[Removed_user_012521]

Wow thats intersting.

[danzig]

Dunno but linking anything to the US with regards to changes in Iran is absolutely the wrong thing, he plays into their hands by doing so and should focus more on internal change rather then calling upon any external. We've see the result of external change even when it is warrented.

[Last Roman]

Dunno but linking anything to the US with regards to changes in Iran is absolutely the wrong thing, he plays into their hands by doing so and should focus more on internal change rather then calling upon any external. We've see the result of external change even when it is warrented.

I agree. We should let them deal with it (plus it would help as far as a creating a credible new government would go) Far too often has the US screwed up on these kinds of things.

[Sétanta]

Smart man, knows Iran is screwing itself over in the eyes of the world.

[John Wayne]

Why do I have a feeling that he and Bushzilla might meet face to face sometime soon...

On another note, why should we care what he says to begin with?

[Garbarsardar]

I'm sure the sister in law of the third nephew of the janitor of the Paris building where Khomeini was living has a very interesting opinion, but I could not find it yet...

[Kara Kolyo]

there has to be some mistake in this info. just the fact that the 17th aniversary of the republic was long time ago. 2006-1979 doesn't equate to 17

[Isnogood]

it looks like the anti clerical movement gets stronger, the question is will it be strong enough?

Nah, "rally 'round the flag," we've seen the same in the U.S. after 9/11:"If you threaten my country,I'll stand behind my prez."

Besides, we are always (if at all) seeing the students protesting, which are an (intellectual and important) elite but do not represent majority of the (conservative) people - which i.e. elected Ahmadinedjad, any opposition is also quickly "dealt with" by the Pasderan.

Apart from that, the U.S. should maybe stop trying to meddle with "represantative voices in exile" which...coincidentally always opt for "regime change", didn't work in Iraq, won't work in Iran.

[Mr.Flint]

there has to be some mistake in this info. just the fact that the 17th aniversary of the republic was long time ago. 2006-1979 doesn't equate to 17

its 17th anniversary of Khomeini's death actually...

Nah, "rally 'round the flag," we've seen the same in the U.S. after 9/11:"If you threaten my country,I'll stand behind my prez."

Besides, we are always (if at all) seeing the students protesting, which are an (intellectual and important) elite but do not represent majority of the (conservative) people - which i.e. elected Ahmadinedjad, any opposition is also quickly "dealt with" by the Pasderan.

Apart from that, the U.S. should maybe stop trying to meddle with "represantative voices in exile" which...coincidentally always opt for "regime change", didn't work in Iraq, won't work in Iran.

But he isnt an exile?

[Isnogood]

But he isnt an exile?

Yet...but I'd wonder, if he'd still be in Iran.

[Mr.Flint]

Yet...but I'd wonder, if he'd still be in Iran.

For the last three years, the Iranian regime has kept Ayatollah Hussein Khomeini under surveillance and has banned him from giving interviews to the Iranian media owing to his criticism of the regime.

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Pa...sd&ID=SP118406

[Mr.Flint]

Posts #12-#14 are clearly spam... and two of them are yours Garb... tsk tsk tsk, shame on you...

[Isnogood]

Posts #12-#14 are clearly spam... and two of them are yours Garb... tsk tsk tsk, shame on you...

"Clearly spam", are they.Too bad that every attempt at subtlety is so clearly wasted in the shallow depths of the internet.

Btw.
According to this site, he's living in Baghdad (Iraq ) atm: "Der junge Khomeini lebt deshalb vorerst noch in Bagdad, abgeschirmt und streng bewacht in einem Haus, das aus Sicherheitsgründen geheim bleiben muss. Es heißt, der Iran habe Mordkommandos ausgeschickt, um den unbequemen Kritiker mit dem edlen Namen zum Schweigen zu bringen. "
(rough transl.:The young Khomeinei is living Baghdad for the time being, shielded and heavily guarded [by whom,I wonder] in a house,which has to stay secret for security reasons.It is said ,that Iran has sent out Killer commandos to silence the disagreeable critic with the noble name.)
http://www.3sat.de/kulturzeit/themen/52512/index.html

Found something funny too:
Addressing the issue of the hijab (i.e. the veil), Khomeini said that if he came to power in Iran,[:wink: ] he would first of all "pass a law which makes the wearing of the hijab an optional choice for Iranian women.
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Pa...sd&ID=SP118406

[John Wayne]

Never lived in gay Parie, but I've visited (Awsome place I might add, it and London are tied as my fav city in the world right now).

Kohmenei said that? Interesting, although I suggest giving us another reference site.

[Garbarsardar]

Posts #12-#14 are clearly spam... and two of them are yours Garb... tsk tsk tsk, shame on you...

Sorry I will have to be blunt then:

The statements of a political non-entity are important only in order to show the methods of propaganda circles; this non-entity has a blood relationship with the central person in the Iranian revolution, ergo his views deserve to be heard. I think his statements are less important that a statement from the (fictional) janitor of the place where Khomeini grandpa lived.

If you have lived in Paris you would now the tremendous power (and amount of information) that the managers (janitors) of appartment buildings hold.

[Mr.Flint]

Sorry I will have to be blunt then:

The statements of a political non-entity are important only in order to show the methods of propaganda circles; this non-entity has a blood relationship with the central person in the Iranian revolution, ergo his views deserve to be heard. I think his statements are less important that a statement from the (fictional) janitor of the place where Khomeini grandpa lived.

If you have lived in Paris you would now the tremendous power (and amount of information) that the managers (janitors) of appartment buildings hold.

So you choose to completly overlook the fact that he: 1. is an Ayatollah (A high ranking cleric that has a significient political power, second only to a Grand Ayatollah)
2. is from a region were tribalism is a norm, therefore his blood relationship gives him a direct (or in this case) indirect political weight.

frankly your Paris sidestepping is of little value, especially considering the fact that you are unable to prove that indeed the (fictional) janitor's statements hold much more weight that Khomeini's so at the moment it is spam

also following your line of logic are you going to claim that some dissedent scientist for example, from some opressive country, is of little relevance as well?

[Aristophanes]

Sorry I will have to be blunt then:

The statements of a political non-entity are important only in order to show the methods of propaganda circles; this non-entity has a blood relationship with the central person in the Iranian revolution, ergo his views deserve to be heard. I think his statements are less important that a statement from the (fictional) janitor of the place where Khomeini grandpa lived.

If you have lived in Paris you would now the tremendous power (and amount of information) that the managers (janitors) of appartment buildings hold.

You're mistaking the significance. Whether it is rational to attribute any special cognizance to Khomeni's grandson or not, one can expect that his words will have resonance with many by virtue of his paternity.
Whether this is Khomeni Jr's area of expertise or not, his weighing in on the question is likely to be important as a means of moving people; therefore, it is significant as a propaganda tool.

[Garbarsardar]

You're mistaking the significance. Whether it is rational to attribute any special cognizance to Khomeni's grandson or not, one can expect that his words will have resonance with many by virtue of his paternity.
Whether this is Khomeni Jr's area of expertise or not, his weighing in on the question is likely to be important as a means of moving people; therefore, it is significant as a propaganda tool.

And that was my point: that it is an interesting examination about the functions of propaganda. The statement in itself bears little meaning.

[Isnogood]

So you have one article published in two newspapers, written as a summary of a summary by an institute about an interview.

You actually want to imply, that you have no absolute faith in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEMRI ??

And that was my point: that it is an interesting examination about the functions of propaganda.

Ah well, but now the question of the target audience remains, at least between the two of you...:original:

P.S.

But he isnt an exile?

"For the last three years, the Iranian regime has kept Ayatollah Hussein Khomeini under surveillance and has banned him from giving interviews to the Iranian media owing to his criticism of the regime. "
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?P...=sd&ID=SP118406

Not an exile...

August 6, 2003(!!)
The London-based Arabic-language daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat reported that Hussein Khomeini, the grandson of the founder of Iran's Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini,had left his place of residence in Iran's holy Shi'ite city of Qom to relocate to Iraq's holy Shi'ite city of Najaf
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Pa...=sd&ID=SP54803