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    Default FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    There is so much in this game. I've already won twice on very hard as Nagaoka and Choshu but each time I felt like smashing the PC on more than one occasion. I swear, CA could make a lot of money if they somehow make the CAI an animate object capable of feeling pain; I would pay millions just to punch and kick it everytime it does all these mechanics which piss me off.

    Please tell me that you also don't find the following issues extremely annoying and aggravating and I will give you a medal for 'most patient guy in the world':

    1) The HERP DERP SUICIDE 1-ship raids which manage to blow up an entire trading/military port bristling with guns, kill all of your trade income and cost you 2000$ to repair the next turn; for 1 measly corvette he's set me back about 5000$. This is especially bad in early game, because essentially all your income is gone and you go bankrupt.

    Fix: Make bombardments a lot harder with a lot less chance of succeeding if the amount of guns is small. Also have a chance that the boat will sink instead of just attrition for coastal defence.

    2) The ing ship spam which quickly lays remote regions of your provinces to waste.

    Fix: Give more penalties to losing your fleet: surrendered ships should be capturable, and we should be given the option of selling them as prizes like in Empire and Napoleon, so I can atleast have money to repair my port.

    2.1) Oh, you say, but you can just chase them! Well as soon as my fleet leaves port, another pissy corvette comes in to bomb my massive trade port and once again kill my income. This is totally unrealistic and extremely annoying. It serves no purpose to the game and is a completely mechanic. The British brought a fleet of 8 ships, including a fourth rate to bomb Kagoshima and it did.....mostly no damage. In FOTS 1 corvette takes out an entire trading port. It's ridiculous.

    Fix: Allow the player to build coastal defences with a general, like how watchtowers work in Med 2/Rome.

    3) AI not harassing enemy units when they pass through their lands. I just had a stack of imperial infantry march through 2 entire allied provinces to attack one of my undefended cities. This is during realm divide so they're at war. This again is .

    4) And finally the thing that made me ragequit my Jozai game:

    THE MOTHERING AGENTS. THEIR SUCCESS CHANCES ARE WAY TOO HIGH. After all the desertions to ing geishas, including my HEIR, my DAIMYO 6 COMMAND STAR SUDDENLY GETS ASSASSINATED BY A RANK 1, NEWLY RECRUITED ISHIN-ISHI. THIS IS COMPLETELY AND MORONIC.

    Sorry for the amount of caps. I'm raging.

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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    bump

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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    So tempted to post a u mad bro picture....

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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    So you're whining because the AI uses strategies you cant counter?

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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    Quote Originally Posted by CptAustus View Post
    So you're whining because the AI uses strategies you cant counter?
    You don't see a problem with something where this is literally no realistic counter to? He's not complaining about the tactic, he's complaining about how effective that tactic is, and I happen to agree with him.

    Also, don't use the word "whine". It makes you look bad.

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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    Quote Originally Posted by John F. Kennedy View Post
    You don't see a problem with something where this is literally no realistic counter to? He's not complaining about the tactic, he's complaining about how effective that tactic is, and I happen to agree with him.

    Also, don't use the word "whine". It makes you look bad.
    There is this one guy did a legendary republic. You know, one could imagine he managed to counter it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptAustus View Post
    There is this one guy did a legendary republic. You know, one could imagine he managed to counter it.
    lol, I can imagine the pain ..

    Of course I'm mad. Since when, in ANY total war game, has a 6-star daimyo been assassinated by a 1-star assassin? Even the geishas in Shogun 1 weren't this legendary. Me thinks that 50% of the people who disagree with me simply haven't played FOTS yet and are just trolling.
    Its a game, mate. I alt F4 out of FotS many time out of frustration, but I prevail in the end thank to the reload button (VH, beaten to a pulp first play through in legendary so its a big NO for me).

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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    try a mod as some of the mods try and adress the single gunboat spam.

    but it's quite easy to defend your areas just build a few fleets. yeah this can be tricky early on but you will need at least three decent sized fleets at all times.

    dont be afraid to take on x2 enemy fleets as long as you have some good units and i found upgraging to armour piercing asap quite usefull.

    however i do think something better could be done i.e def toughen up the defences or speed up the attrition.

    that said my tosa campaign is pretty dead on v hard. i had a fleet early on but for no real reason was declared war on by satsuma, chosu, and a few others.

    cant do anything but end turn and try for peace. if i disband any more units i'll either get invaded or rebellions.

    oh and ally yourself early on to your neighbours...their fleets will help you out...
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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    Quote Originally Posted by kronpas View Post
    lol, I can imagine the pain ..
    It's not to bad. You can steamroll the AI later on without any agents/generals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptAustus View Post
    There is this one guy did a legendary republic. You know, one could imagine he managed to counter it.
    You make it sound like that's a reason for your hostile actions.

    Just because someone can get around a problem does not make it not a problem.

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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    There's, like, three guides on how to counter this. Just read around a bit.
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    I am inclined to agree with the OP. I find that these things are more annoyances that are failings of CAs design. I could understand if they represented some strategic or historical facet, but as it is, a singular corvette could not significantly damage a fortified military or trading port.

    In addition to points raised by the OP, I dislike how distant AI will launch naval invasions. Tried doing that as a human player? Every neighbour will DoW and invade your defenceless home provinces. When the AI does it, no one bats and eyelid. If one thing annoys me, its different rules for the AI to those I play by. I'd like to see the AI respond to each other as they respond to me.

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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    *Inhale....exhale*
    *Clears throaght*
    U mad bro?

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    THe problem with those fleets is that they don't get "blocked" like your fleets, they know where they are and make biiiig moves to avoid them, soyou have to have at least Three fleets to have clear view of all paths, on each seas.

    At least, with high sea attrition in vanilla, it was counterable.
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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    The ship thing isn't an issue. You just have to decide where you, with your limited navy will defend. Parking your ships near your ports is the way to deal with this. Yes. They will get by you some times. Yes. They will bomb your other areas. This is where strategy comes in. You've got to pick where to defend. Sun Tzu says: He who defends everything defends nothing.

    On the note of armies walking through allied territory and attacking your undefended city... Well I just let an enemy army march straight by my castle because I knew they were going to go straight for my allies undefended city. Why did I do that? I wanted my allies port. Even at RD dont be mistaken. You're still a coalition of petty warlords out to increase your own fame, glory, and worldly possessions.

    Agents are hardly OP. Stick a Shinobi and a Geisha in your army stacks if you want to use generals.
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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus View Post
    ... Sun Tzu says: He who defends everything defends nothing....
    Nerdy: Actually that was Frederick the Great of Prussia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magraev View Post
    Nerdy: Actually that was Frederick the Great of Prussia.


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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    ^Yeah, pretty much this.

    The issue I had at first was that I tried to protect everything all the time. But that's not what it's about.

    It's not creating a fool-proof, invincilbe defence. It's protecting what's important.
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    Default Re: FOTS - very fun yet makes me want to break my :wub:ing keyboard. PLEASE SOMEONE MOD/FIX

    I still cringe every time I watch part of my province burn... But I know it's for the greater good.
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    Oh, yeah. I didn't say I liked it.
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