Kurdish insurgents

[Hells Bells]

http://www.slate.com/id/2143492/

I recently read this article about the kurds in IRaq who were bombed by the IRanians, apparently they are trying to topple the crazy hard line Iranian government and establish a secular society with womens rights and whatnot. Whether this may be true or not this is indeeed interesting. They await the coming US war with IRan so they can benifit from being US allies like the Kurds in IRaq. The article also said that they are mostly women, some 16 year old girls willing to grant sexual favors for grenade launchgers etc.

I reccomend you read at least the last part, its hilarious.

So the IRanians arent alone in having terrorist cells ready to fight in the probable war to come, and they cant say their the only ones with freedom fighters either.

[Ardaric]

I remember that when the taliban where runnnig most of afghanistan they had set up a group to liberate the sunnis in Iran from the Shiites.

They wanted to establish a Caliphate in Iran

Also you have de Mujahedin al Khalq. That's an Iranian group that's set on to overthrow the ayatollahs
But they have been internationally brandmarked as terrorists
http://www.cfr.org/publication/9158/

[Erik]

Also you have de Mujahedin al Khalq. That's an Iranian group that's set on to overthrow the ayatollahs
But they have been internationally brandmarked as terrorists
http://www.cfr.org/publication/9158/

Terrorist who America considers worthy allies, yes.

Despite MEK’s violent tactics, the group’s strong stand against Iran —part of President Bush’s “axis of evil”—and pro-democratic image have won it support among some U.S. and European lawmakers.

[Ardaric]

Terrorist who America considers worthy allies, yes.

So what's new? The US is playing a risky game with a leftwing/islamist group, but nothing new in the Middle East. OBL had support of the CIA.
Taliban & Pakistan (they had support of their secret service until the :wub:'s got pressured))
Hamas & Syria
Hezbollah & Iran
I consider those alliances a bigger evil in the region

[bigfootedfred]

Every country supports some rebel Kurdish group to harass the other. Basicly it goes like this:
The Turks supported Iraqi Kurds (KDP or PUK) before 2003

I heard [word of mouth, no verfication, in effect, pub talk]
that the turks backed the KDP(Kurdistan democratic party), when they (the KDP)
fought the PUK(Patriotic union of kurdistan)

The president of iraq today is the founder of the PUK and was high level member of the KDP,
until he split to found his own group (mentioned above)
which is one reason why turkey starts getting edgy everytime bad news comes from iraq.

Anyway, to quote erik.

The Kurdish question is very complicated.

[Removed_user_012521]

Terrorist who America considers worthy allies, yes.

Well you see they are different from you regulat islamofacist terrorist. They want freedom and democracy. And as a Rule the US can not not support them in there quest to find democracy unless they do some really bad things. Like things that would make the US look bad for supporting them.

[Erik]

some 16 year old girls willing to grant sexual favors for grenade launchgers etc.

The article didn't say that, I think you misread/misinterpreted.

Maybe the idea of hot young Maoistic Iranian chicks with machine guns made your hormones take control?
I don't blame you.

I reccomend you read at least the last part, its hilarious.

I liked the whole article, but I agree the last part is hilarious.
Especially:

"Ahmadinejad waits for Imam-e Zaman," says Warya, referring to the quasi-messianic "hidden" imam whose return Twelver Shiites await as a day of righteous vindication. "Kurdish people say Imam-e Zaman is George W. Bush."

So the IRanians arent alone in having terrorist cells ready to fight in the probable war to come, and they cant say their the only ones with freedom fighters either.

No, and this isn't anything new.
The Kurdish question is very complicated.

[Ardaric]

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No, and this isn't anything new.
The Kurdish question is very complicated.[/QUOTE]

No it isn't. That's what politicians dont wanna deal with it. I heard that comment also during the newscovering of the yugoslavia wars.

Every country supports some rebel Kurdish group to harass the other. Basicly it goes like this:
The Turks supported Iraqi Kurds (KDP or PUK) before 2003
The iraqis supported the Iranian, Turkish Kurds before 2003
The Syrians supported the Turkish Kurds (PKK)until 2001
And Iran supported the Iraqi Kurds (the Ansar al Islam) until 2003 whnt they where hiet heavy.
So full circle again

These Kurdish groups are mostly leftwing or sharialovers

So every state uses them to harass the other. But since the invasion in Iraq the overal activity is lower than in the 1990's. That's because the Iraqi Kurds got their autonomy and Saddam had a change in his career. So this USinvasion is a more or less a blessing for the Iraqi Kurds. They would never got real autonomy from Saddam or else the Turks would intervene

[Mangalore]

wow, slate, that's some source. While Iran has trouble with ethnic diversity as well it is nowhere near the ratio of Iraq or as radical.

[Ó Cathasaigh]

Ah, the Kurds.
I'm sure we can find room in Iran for a Kurdistan if the insano president there doesn't stop his nuclear games.

[Farnan]

Umm... The US does not support MEK, we have actually dismantled MEK bases in Iraq. There are sympathizers in the US and Europe however.

[John I Tzimisces]

The Kurds deserve their own state. Turkey has been committing crimes of war against them for some time now. No need to shell innocent villages. And please, don't tell me they're terrorists, this has been going on since the 1920's...
The only "complicated" part of this is that the kurds live in three countries primarily and have land claims on all of them. I have no idea how good a chance they have with Iran, on account of they have claims on the pretty much empty western part...I doubt it includes large urban centers, none of their claims do.

[John Wayne]

I pity the Kurds, I really do. They have been used and abused for many years by actual nations.

Considering the terrain that they are in, couldn't they just rise up in a huge revolt against there opressores? They might be succesful, if they conducted a guerilla campaign like the Taliban and ObL are.

[removeduser_487563287433]

http://www.slate.com/id/2143492/

I recently read this article about the kurds in IRaq who were bombed by the IRanians, apparently they are trying to topple the crazy hard line Iranian government and establish a secular society with womens rights and whatnot. Whether this may be true or not this is indeeed interesting. They await the coming US war with IRan so they can benifit from being US allies like the Kurds in IRaq. The article also said that they are mostly women, some 16 year old girls willing to grant sexual favors for grenade launchgers etc.

I reccomend you read at least the last part, its hilarious.

So the IRanians arent alone in having terrorist cells ready to fight in the probable war to come, and they cant say their the only ones with freedom fighters either.

Why the hell do you write Iran and Iraq with two capitals?