Poll-Do you Play Vanilla anymore ?

**Marvzilla** · April 06, 2012, 05:16 PM

Hey Guys,would like to hear if anyone of you plays MTW 2 Vanilla.

I for one no,as the historical inaccuracy makes the game boring.

**megalitho** · April 07, 2012, 04:14 AM

Last time I played vanilla was August 2008 in a PvP-LAN session.

**AnthoniusII** · April 07, 2012, 11:16 AM

I loaded vanilla today checking the .exe security issues.
But i haven't play vanilla for many years.
I remember that i played a campaign in Crusades when the Kingdoms were released. I haven't play the other campaigns ever.
It is something natural.
That time the 1st release of BC was out and it would be much much better than any expansion of the original game.

**matmohair1** · April 07, 2012, 11:41 AM

its been a while since I played vanilla,
mostly Britannica & America campaigns
my favorite factions are the Scots & the Mayans

**nein** · April 08, 2012, 12:21 AM

I like the simplicity of vanilla and occasionally boot up a game

**Ansar Warrior** · April 08, 2012, 06:17 PM

There are too many good Mods out there for me to play Vanilla and I don't like the colour coded armies it just looks silly.

However if I wanted to play with Scotland I feel it still has the best faction for that or obviously the Americas so really it depends on the faction I want to use but I have not played it in ages.

**MedievalMagic** · April 09, 2012, 12:26 PM

I still play vanilla on occasion even though I have several mods I also play.I do wish though that I could find a really good mod with the Timurids featured with some changes and also Black Sheep Turks,,etc.

**Farwest** · April 09, 2012, 03:37 PM

I have never been able to finish the vanilla game or a mod, due to boredom after a while. There were numerous attempts, but still couldn't achieve that point.

The game repeats itself and after some game time, the game becomes very easy and you don't face difficult situations anymore. All you can do is, fight through your way with no-longer hard opponents. So the game is getting easy after you breakthrough a limit of difficulties with some good strategies, then you don't have to set up additional plans to achieve the victory. All becomes easy and that don't give you any joy, in the end.

So I don't play vanilla and searching my chance for playing some serious mods here and there. But frankly, I am still not satisfied.

P.S: I always play VH/VH difficulty in any mod, and it is still very easy to overcome.

**Harith** · April 10, 2012, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Farwest

I have never been able to finish the vanilla game or a mod, due to boredom after a while. There were numerous attempts, but still couldn't achieve that point.

The game repeats itself and after some game time, the game becomes very easy and you don't face difficult situations anymore. All you can do is, fight through your way with no-longer hard opponents. So the game is getting easy after you breakthrough a limit of difficulties with some good strategies, then you don't have to set up additional plans to achieve the victory. All becomes easy and that don't give you any joy, in the end.

So I don't play vanilla and searching my chance for playing some serious mods here and there. But frankly, I am still not satisfied.

P.S: I always play VH/VH difficulty in any mod, and it is still very easy to overcome.

right?? I get to a point in turn 150 where 1/2 to 1/3 of the world is under my control even though I auto resolve all the battles and spam the stacks with heavy cavalry and infantry with some crappy general who at the end turns into a saint... champion or w.e with 15 stars

**Marvzilla** · April 10, 2012, 05:10 PM

So the consensus so far is that Medieval 2 Vanilla isn´t played anymore,atleast regulary.

**Farwest** · April 10, 2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Harith

right?? I get to a point in turn 150 where 1/2 to 1/3 of the world is under my control even though I auto resolve all the battles and spam the stacks with heavy cavalry and infantry with some crappy general who at the end turns into a saint... champion or w.e with 15 stars

I lose my ambition to play, after a while. Winning all battles easily is not my taste, in my opinion. For example, with playing Ayyubids, you shouldn't even reach to Anatolia or Iraq and it should be very difficult by resistance and by history in the gaming process; but it is not. The game becomes easy and easy throughout the gaming.

**nein** · April 14, 2012, 12:30 AM

playing as england is a fun challenge if you go to the mongol and timurid spawn points and lock them down. Destroying countless horse archer armies with stakes is fun... convert the regions to castles so as to keep rebellion down and have access to your best troops

**Dago Red** · April 15, 2012, 12:10 PM

Vanilla BC?

If you're talking about vanilla, vanilla... no, why would I? I have never once played it in my entire life.

Bought the base game engine 4 years after it was released in the beginning of 2010 once there were mods that really caught my eye. It's hard returning to an older engine after the staggering beauty of the newer game engines and their 3d maps but some of these mods are well worth it, such as BC.

The main problem is that the M2TW is so old it was not designed for viewing on modern monitors and the campaign interface doesn't take well to HD widescreens, even one as modestly sized as mine. The excellent re-texturing and "normal" mapping, etc that modders do make the game worth looking at but there's nothing they can do about the fact that the game engine is 6 years old -- a fossil in gaming years. And that's what the vanilla feels like when I've booted it up to make sure it's working after reinstalls over the years... a fossil.

**Harith** · April 15, 2012, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Dago Red

Vanilla BC?

If you're talking about vanilla, vanilla... no, why would I? I have never once played it in my entire life.

Bought the base game engine 4 years after it was released in the beginning of 2010 once there were mods that really caught my eye. It's hard returning to an older engine after the staggering beauty of the newer game engines and their 3d maps but some of these mods are well worth it, such as BC.

The main problem is that the M2TW is so old it was not designed for viewing on modern monitors and the campaign interface doesn't take well to HD widescreens, even one as modestly sized as mine. The excellent re-texturing and "normal" mapping, etc that modders do make the game worth looking at but there's nothing they can do about the fact that the game engine is 6 years old -- a fossil in gaming years. And that's what the vanilla feels like when I've booted it up to make sure it's working after reinstalls over the years... a fossil.

a bit harsh dont u think? lol

But I do have to agree that I dont like the vanilla because of the small number of selection, the repeated units and the weird uniform... though it is sometimes fun to play with when ur bored of the insane mod AI or u just wanna play a really chill campaign...

I am also really looking forward for Medieval 3 with the same level of graphics that of shogun 2....