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    http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/04...ls?hpt=hp_bn15

    Breaking up friends and groups in schools to create pan-class groups because of the dangers and "bullying" and "cliques" where children cannot be included. I guess in the modern society of 8th place trophies this is the next step and leave it to UK schools to be on the forefront of nanny state coddling.

    I am still friends with a number of people I met back in grade school, it disgusts me to think that a school would actively work to break up friendships due to dangers of the hurt feelings of the weird fat kid with no friends.

    "And if that means a few hurt feelings are spared along the way -- and maybe, just maybe a bully-in-training is stopped in his or her tracks -- then I’m all for it."
    lol. Bully in training...... this is ridiculous.

    Yes, next we must do away with grades on homework and put stars on every test paper. Everyone is a winner and is special including the kid that gets no answers correct. Oh but then of course we must coddle to their being wrong as well. A child is ALWAYS right, if we prove them wrong in their views on class studies then that may hurt their ego and damage their potential making them question themselves and leading to unhappiness! We can't have that either!

    Conservatives in the US whine about Democrat big government but at least all they whine about is policy and not the fact that this absurd ridiculousness like this childhood programming or whatever you can call this nonsense as it would never happen in this country and if it did it would be in some ridiculous charter school specifically built to brainwash children and leave them unprepared for the world and setting up an entire country for failure from the very basic educational levels.
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    Jesus Christ, these people are ing retarded

    What the hell is it with these people trying to protect their kids from everything? I mean, even in the elementary schools around me (grades K-4), sports have been banned during recess because teachers are afraid that losing a game will damage them emotionally. I guess friendships are evil too, now. If schools/parents keep babying their children in ways such as this, how the hell will the children function as adults when very few people give a about their feelings?

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    I wish I could see these worms grow up and taste reality. And what about the children who will be under their Brave New World project. Not everyone can be friends, not everyone is likeable and people have their favourites.

    Although kudos to the genius who thought of banning sport at playtime because of the emotional trauma of losing. Yeah, I'm still scarred from losing handball and soccer games a decade ago.

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    A few schools in the UK incorporating programs to try to teach kids to not be little pieces of to each other?

    Oh, the horror... But seriously, the OP is going off of a commentary blog article using a few paragraphs from The Sun as a source, there's extremely little factual information involved and most of the OP is a rant completely unrelated to those scarce facts.

    And, um, regarding this 'liberal hive mind mission in UK' thing.... The ruling party in Britain at the moment is the Conservative Party...
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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv-8 View Post
    A few schools in the UK incorporating programs to try to teach kids to not be little pieces of to each other?

    Oh, the horror... But seriously, the OP is going off of a commentary blog article using a few paragraphs from The Sun as a source, there's extremely little factual information involved and most of the OP is a rant completely unrelated to those scarce facts.

    And, um, regarding this 'liberal hive mind mission in UK' thing.... The ruling party in Britain at the moment is the Conservative Party...
    The idea isn't so much about schools taking on the role of some rainbow-crushing, anti-friendship fun police as it about the desire to spare young kids the pain of when these sometimes-fickle friendships fall apart. It's also rooted in a desire for more inclusive, larger groups of friends.
    An educational psychologist who told the paper she's witnessed the anti-BFF policy in at least three towns near London says "I have noticed that teachers tell children they shouldn’t have a best friend and that everyone should play together."
    The head of a national teachers' group confirmed the BFF break-ups and expressed some concern. "I don’t see how you can stop people from forming close friendships," he told The Sun. "We make and lose friends throughout our lives."
    1) "Shouldn't have a best friend and that everyone should play together"
    lol? people have their preferences and what if some children don't want to play with 'that kid'? What then, expel the child? force children to play with someone/people they don't like?

    2) This wonderful idea appears to be spreading amongst other teachers and parents; few for now, sure, but the fact that some people think its ok to meddle in the social politics and relations of children is simply silly.

    3) It wouldn't be a Kanaric post/thread without some colourful descriptions and mild hyperbole.

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    This changes social relationships from ones of free association to ones of obligatory association. It's a spit in the face of friendship itself, and the OPPOSITE of a proper social system.

    People ought to befriend one another and cooperate because they WANT to, not because they HAVE to.

    If the people that designed these policies had balls they'd deserve to have 'em kicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv-8 View Post
    A few schools in the UK incorporating programs to try to teach kids to not be little pieces of to each other?
    A few schools in the UK are attempting to destroy a very important part of children's development process, which spares their feelings as a child but can negatively affect the rest of their life.

    Social feedback is very important and shouldn't be eliminated. Not a single person goes through school without being experiencing alienation from peers, and everyone in school is a bully. From my relationships with peers at school I learned that being too sensitive to other's opinions doesn't achieve anything but pain for me, and that people can be unpleasant for no reason and have wrong opinions, and I should value my own opinion more than them. I also learned the hair I had at one point looked ridiculous, that messing up your team's chances in football will upset them, that being sensitive or cocky is not attractive to the opposite sex, that other people don't appreciate selfishness or unpleasantness from me, that confidence wins admiration and respect and in general that actions have consequences, and what the consequences of each action was. As I grew in confidence I also learned not to tolerate behaviours I didn't like from others. I developed my judgement and that made me more socially successful. My feelings were hurt at each step of the way, but a little less each time, and looking back my problems really were nothing. And is it worse to be the subject of a joke by insecure and immature lads and rejected by a girl, or to not learn any of the things I learned through those experiences?

    I do it all again each time I enter unfamiliar situations. The difference is now I've grown a thicker skin and don't care if someone gets mad at me for being ignorant. I also don't tolerate unpleasant people. I'm doing them a favour in this. They obviously didn't learn their lesson at school.
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    I can just see this causing resentment towards the less popular people in the class.

    Once when I was about 8, there was one person in the class who was often picked on. I never took part in this and I actually felt sympathy towards the guy. Then one day, the teacher must have noticed this, and she moved my best friend away from the seat next to me, to another seat across the room, and put this person next to me.

    I quickly started to not feel so sympathetic. Of course it was an overreaction because I was a stupid kid at the time, but kids will be stupid and overreact. Especially if you force them to be support-peers for the less popular.
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    Nothing liberal about this. Quite the opposite. This takes away the freedom of children to choose who they want to associate with. Cliques are great, I don't see what the problem is. The right to discriminate is a basic human freedom.

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    I do think that inclusion of others should be promoted, but it shouldnt be forced and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IT SHOULDNT INVOLVE SPLITTING FRIENDS UP TO ACHIEVE IT!! *ALL CAPS RAGE*

    As someone mentioned above, forcing it only creates resentment and further helps to exclude those certain individuals.

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    All is prejudice now.

    Kids HAVE to learn to accept EVERYTHING.

    See that funny smelling kid over there? No, no, this is ignorant, and social prejudice, you HAVE to like him and be friends with him.

    See that gay kid over there? No, no this is ignorant and his sexual choice and is this is prejudice, your kids HAVE to accept this and MUST be his friend.

    See that religious radical kid over there? No, no, this is ignorant, and racism, you MUST accept his religious practices no matter what and be his friend whilst bashing your own religion cuz this is cool.

    This is a step closer to things such as pedophilia. In the future it is going to be like: see that kid with a 40 year old boyfriend over there? No, no, it’s ignorant and you HAVE to accept this since it’s is his/her choice and it’s prejudice.

    You must change the UK flag as well since this evokes bad things that are not fluffy and social acceptable from the past, oh no! How are we going to look! Better adopt this flag as new flag as UK:

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    A better solution would be to simply exclude the bullies and troublemakers from the school, deny education to those that would deny it to others.
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    Have we got another source for this, as I have never heard of HLNtv?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    Have we got another source for this, as I have never heard of HLNtv?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadBurgerMaker View Post
    HLN is Headline News AKA CNN Headline News.
    Ok then I'll just have to look at it's sources: The SUN is owned by News Corporation a sub divison of News International AKA: The Murdoch Media, who are currently in a legal dispute with the government over there blatant law breaking and corruption (News Corps) hmm so no possible motive for making crap up there (And the SUN makes crap up alot of the time anyway.)

    And some random Blogger. So HLN may be an ok source, but it's sources are garbage,

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_(United_Kingdom)

    The Sun is the paper which ran with the 'Freddy Starr Ate My Hamster' headline in the 80s, nothing has changed since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    Ok then I'll just have to look at it's sources: The SUN is owned by News Corporation a sub divison of News International AKA: The Murdoch Media, who are currently in a legal dispute with the government over there blatant law breaking and corruption (News Corps) hmm so no possible motive for making crap up there (And the SUN makes crap up alot of the time anyway.)

    And some random Blogger. So HLN may be an ok source, but it's sources are garbage,

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_(United_Kingdom)

    The Sun is the paper which ran with the 'Freddy Starr Ate My Hamster' headline in the 80s, nothing has changed since.
    So why didn't you say that in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadBurgerMaker View Post
    So why didn't you say that in the first place?

    Because I had clicked the link gone 'who they' and asked.

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    You know when you go to College you tend to break up those cliques you hung with back in HS. But I can see how breaking up friends in grade school is a bit weird.

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    Has it ever occurred to these idiots that this would just increase the rate of bullying? Forcing children together in large groups will just leave you with the select few kids who are shy and introspective, and the select few cocky wee -tards who lead the rest in picking on the afore-mentioned children.

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