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    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/844...und-in-siberia
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    Footage of a "beautifully preserved" woolly mammoth carcass being recovered from a frozen Siberia has been released by the BBC.
    After an initial assessment in March, scientists believe the find throws light on how ancient humans hunted the prehistoric animals.
    Wounds on the carcass of the strawberry-blonde mammoth, which has been named Yuka by scientists, show signs that both lions and humans were involved in its death.
    The finding indicates that humans sometimes "stole" prey from lions.
    "Already there is dramatic evidence of a life-and-death struggle between Yuka and some top predator, probably a lion," leading mammoth expert, Daniel Fisher, professor of earth and environmental sciences at the University of Michigan, told the BBC.
    "Even more interesting, there are hints that humans may have taken over the kill at an early stage."
    Bernard Buigues of the Mammuthus organisation obtained the frozen carcass from tusk hunters.
    The Yuka mammoth, believed to be a two-year-old juvenile, was filmed as part of the BBC/Discovery show Woolly Mammoth: Secrets from the Ice.
    The flesh and hair of the carcass is surprisingly well preserved considering it is thought to be more than 10,000 years old.
    Professor Alice Roberts was part of the film crew there during the recovery.
    "There are some odd things," she said.
    "What we need to do is find out if this was human interference near the time of death or was it something that happened much later?
    "If it happened near the time of death then it means Yuka is a very important specimen as there are not many [mammoths] that show human interactions."
    Seeing Yuka in the flesh was almost "poignant", she said.
    "You feel it has only just died as it is so beautifully preserved."
    i read this article today. was really surprised they would ever a frozen mammoth in any kind of good condition.
    i have bolded and italic'd the part i find most interesting, in fact; i have a theory of my own......
    what if humans didnt steal from the lions, which i am also going to consider might be a sabre toothed cat, but instead found a way to domesticate them similar to how we domesticate dogs and cats in todays society; allowing them to hunt prey together as people have done for thousands of years
    Last edited by Ishan; April 05, 2012 at 11:14 PM. Reason: duplicate thread


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    The top youtube comment would be: I wonder how it tastes.
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    Meh, I've found better.

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    Duplicate threads merged.

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    CLONE IT.

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    I would love to see Woolly Mammoths return to the wild, protected of course and not used in circuses or kept as pets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armatus View Post
    I would love to see Woolly Mammoths return to the wild, protected of course and not used in circuses or kept as pets.
    Horrible idea for the same reason australia hates rabbits.
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    yeahm they would fit well into pleistocene park (http://www.pleistocenepark.ru/en/).. maybe similar reserves with recreated mammoth steppe (way more productive ecosystem, which disappeared after colaps of megafauna in early Holocene) and filled with herds of bovines, deers horses and such (of course mammoths too ) would appear in arctic region

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaldithas View Post
    yeahm they would fit well into pleistocene park (http://www.pleistocenepark.ru/en/).. maybe similar reserves with recreated mammoth steppe (way more productive ecosystem, which disappeared after colaps of megafauna in early Holocene) and filled with herds of bovines, deers horses and such (of course mammoths too ) would appear in arctic region
    Nice! I would just love to go on a Megafauna safari! it would be awesome if we could recreate one of those ecosystems.

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    Somehow I dont see Mammoths having the same problems as rabbits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxdude View Post
    Somehow I dont see Mammoths having the same problems as rabbits.
    stable biosphere + new random creature + been extinct for millenia = never predictably good
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    If Elephants reproduced as easily as rabbits then we wouldnt have all those animal planet specials based on them would we?
    I know what you mean but your example is silly , Besides, come on, megafauna wildlife safari? bisons and wolly mammoths together again for one final go? They are not raptors (sadly).

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    I love the prehistoric age of mammals, they're so odd and strange looking and never get enough air time compared to dinosaurs.

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    wild horses are just as much a problem as rabbits in australia.
    same with wild boars.

    its not the reproduction rate that makes it so threatening, its how it tramples, consumes and destroys everything it comes across (moreso for herds), denying other ecosystems their essentials.

    plus the mammoth would have no natural predators, dont think mammoths will go to the desert to mess with lions with that layer of fur


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    Its not like we are gonna clone an army. yet.

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    clone it, i wanna know what it tastes like.

    i am being totally cereal, i really wanna know what our ancestors ate during the ice ages

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    While a mammoth is pretty cool including more details on mammoths' lifestyle, nutrition and what not, i'd like to see a sabertoothed cat.
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    Did saber tooths go for young or sick mammoths?

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