The number one reason facing rome is so painful

**Yomamashouse** · April 04, 2012, 12:01 AM

**Spike** · April 04, 2012, 12:16 AM

meh, bring some lancers and extraordinariis are done for good, I take this as you meant Pedites Extraordinarii

it's indeed painful in sieges though, although baiting the Romaioi to play on your terms (in open field) is easy

**athanaric** · April 04, 2012, 04:05 AM

There are many AP units in the region though that can be used against Extraordinarii and are cheaper than them. Germanic and Illyrian clubmen, Bastarnae mercs, and most importantly Teceitos and Tekastos. Worgozez are also good because of the combination of AP attribute and fear effect. The challenge with those units is to avoid the javelins of the Extraordinarii.

**Bladvak** · April 04, 2012, 05:24 AM

The number one reason why facing any faction difficult is because of the EB script that gives them mnai. Ok, probably heavy-HA factions have a head start, but other than that it can be summed like the first sentence.

It's never easy to fight an army, that army goes to town and then the next turn they are full again even if they are in debt. It's also one of the reasons why blitzing is so effective.

**~~The Kybrothilian~~** · April 04, 2012, 06:00 AM

This wont be the case in EB2 thanks to the recruitment pool system.

**Bladvak** · April 04, 2012, 09:44 AM

Yeah, but until EB2, we're stuck with cheating the system that cheats.

Also, as a sidenote, I hate M2TW. Not the engine, though. I also hate the merchant - useless unit. Kingdoms is a pretty good game for the novelty it brings.

**~~The Kybrothilian~~** · April 04, 2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Bladvak

Yeah, but until EB2, we're stuck with cheating the system that cheats.

Also, as a sidenote, I hate M2TW. Not the engine, though. I also hate the merchant - useless unit. Kingdoms is a pretty good game for the novelty it brings.

It probably wont feature in EB2. Still, I think he's pretty useful if you can get him to trade something that bumps out more than 100 money per turn.

**Yomamashouse** · April 04, 2012, 02:27 PM

If I increased the cost of extraordinarii could I make them less appealing to the computer? Do they choose them over principes because they have a better calculated strength/cost ratio?