Receiving cavalry charge while not in square?

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  1. feld_marshal said:

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    Sometime my unit can't form square (like light infantry), or there is not enough time because there is a sudden attack while my infantry is engaged against other infantry. Is there any way to tell them to anticipate the charge, e.g. holding the bayonet like a pike?
     
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    rasassfrass said:

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    order them to stand gaurd and stop firing so they brace for impact....but that might be messy best just to have squares preformed where u think they will try to charge I.E. flanks and what not i dont use squares much tho also if the unit loses to many men they wont be able to form square fromation
     
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    Holman said:

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    if your infantry is standstill (idle) they'll automaticly brace for cavalry charge (also face toward the charging cavalry). the infantry with bayonet tend to do better than the non-bayonet equipt infantry. when it come down to cavalry fighting.
     
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    Steph said:

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    You can also try to counter charge.
    You should get a moral bonus, and a small melee bonus
     
  5. feld_marshal said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steph View Post
    You can also try to counter charge.
    You should get a moral bonus, and a small melee bonus
    Really? Physically speaking, wouldn't it be better to stay stationary (to increase stability and reduce impact) when colliding with a high-momentum object?
     
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    Longueval said:

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    If a cavalry unit is charging you from front do not move, if you break your formation you will take a full impact on your unit.
    If they are charging from rear or flank, a counter charge is the best thing to do in my opinion.
     
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    Steph said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by feld_marshal View Post
    Really? Physically speaking, wouldn't it be better to stay stationary (to increase stability and reduce impact) when colliding with a high-momentum object?
    Yes, but we are talking about how CA implemented the mechanism in game here.
    If you look at the stats in the db
    - There is an attack bonus when charging
    - there is a morale bonus when charging
    - There is a penalty for infantry when fighing horse.

    So logically, having the infantry charge should give them a morale and attack bonus, while having them just wait should give nothing.

    And when attacked from flank or rear, there is a penalty.

    Good way to destroy the ennemy: charge with infantry to pin his unit, then quickly go around with cav and attacl from rear.
     
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    BrokenLantern said:

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    The best ways to receive a cavalry charge is to either:

    1. Hold position and let your men brace, or
    2. Counter charge the enemy if you are being attacked from the flank.*

    1.When your men brace and are not moving, they take less casualties and a smaller hit to morale.
    2.Being charged in the the flank is -I believe- more damaging to morale and troop numbers of you unit then a counter charge.

    Note: If your unit is not in a solid formation, they will be even more unrealistically torn apart by the cavalry unit.

    *Changed word error.
     
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    mesor said:

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    I tend to just hold fire and then give them a volley at very close range.
    Shatters there charge for about 2 seconds so i charge them right behind it and force them to fight me without the bonus of there charge so they get cut to pieces.
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    Steph said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mesor View Post
    I tend to just hold fire and then give them a volley at very close range.
    Shatters there charge for about 2 seconds so i charge them right behind it and force them to fight me without the bonus of there charge so they get cut to pieces.
    If you time it extra right, it works also with infantry.
    Move toward ennemy unit. They shoot at long range (low damage), then charge quickly before they reload. Stop. Fire a volley at close range. Resume charge.
    But it can backfire: if you don't stop at the right moment, the ennemy can charge you before you have time to shoot, and then THEY have the bonus.