Kings of Westeros (Lannister open)

**MachoKing** · May 15, 2012, 11:08 PM

This hotseat is effectivly falling apart. Arryn pulled out, Lannister and Greyjoy cheated, Stannis just pulled out too. Also the console is not disabled, which means that our admins, who are players are going to be looking at our turns and seeing everything. Also, can you tell if someone does Auto_Win attacker cheat? Not saying that is what Renly did, but the idea is now in my head that everytime I play someone they will auto win against me.

btw Renly, how did you do what you did? I attacked that boat last turn and sent it out to sea, with the amount of men you had around Rosby, I dont see how the movement points would get u across the blackwater and attack Joffery and then seige rosby only to have your boat end up at Duckensdale. Oh and in case you are wondering....both your armies have been defeated. Renly is trapped in a fort and is under seige. Penrose has also lost and fallen back into a fort. All Hail King Tommen.

I am holding on to my save until this hotseat is figured out. As it stands more then half the players have left this game, and anyone can cheat in more then money ways. Honor system hasnt been too good. I vote restart with disabled console.

OH and Lannisters gave me 10,000 dragons. What do I do with that? I obviously want it.

**Seneka** · May 16, 2012, 04:57 AM

Hi, I would like to join if there are any spaces still open. (The previous poster said that half the players left?)

I have however never done a hotseat before, so I am quite inexperienced.

I can play from around 18:00 GMT +1. Any faction is fine, though I would prefer something simple, if there is still space open that is.

**Pinkerton** · May 16, 2012, 11:28 AM

Yes Seneka, I'm leaving this hotseat, so PM for the password

**cepragassen** · May 16, 2012, 11:42 AM

lannister left the fort northwest of the blackwater bridge unguarded, so from the bridge i was able to take the fort, instead of besieging KL. also killing joff was no easy task, it took 5 battles for it to happen, that's why renly's army was so scattered around

**Seneka** · May 16, 2012, 02:33 PM

I have now officially taken over for SeruGiran.

Stannis Baratheon, king of Westeros, will break those that dare oppose him.

**elyrian** · May 16, 2012, 04:28 PM

I cant keep playing this hotseat, my internett is really unstable and bad, I have to cut down on the Hotseats.

**Pinkie Pie** · May 16, 2012, 04:41 PM

The console is disabled, it requires the admin password to use.

**Dux** · May 16, 2012, 04:44 PM

Then how did they cheat? Are there other ways?

**ljomx** · May 16, 2012, 05:42 PM

Well there must be a way around it. It must also be easy b/c 2 separate ppl were able to do it. I don't see any reason for future hotseats to even have console enabled. The only reason is to not give admin players their passwords but if the admins have the console they can see everything already if they really cared about cheating.

**White_wizard** · May 17, 2012, 12:46 AM

First of all I must appologize for my long absent but I have announce that here - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...=527980&page=4
Something in my private live happens and I simply could not play.

Secondly; I am sad and shocked about this accusation of cheating in this hotseat. I played only one turn and the only way I know how to cheat is with the console. It must be the previous greyjoy player, because I also notice huge money of gold and was very surprised. I should immediately inform other players about that, but because of other hotseats I simply forgot about it. Second turn I never played, so I could not see that amount of money again.

I am glad, that you found another Greyjoy player so that hotseat can continue.

**Pinkie Pie** · May 19, 2012, 10:43 AM

Due to the cheating and the large number of players that have left I have added a poll on whether we should continue on with this hotseat or end it.

**Dux** · May 21, 2012, 06:41 AM

so what is the result of the poll?

**Pinkie Pie** · May 21, 2012, 10:14 AM

It closes in 3 days but the vote at the moment is 6 to end and 1 to continue.

**Dux** · May 21, 2012, 10:46 AM

So then we should just end it and start a new one don't you think?

**Pinkie Pie** · May 21, 2012, 12:46 PM

Too many hotseats to bother starting a new one.

**Pinkie Pie** · May 21, 2012, 03:09 PM

Ok, as of now i apologize to White_Wizard for accusing jhim of cheating. The following information has been found which points the finger towards Celsius.
I checked through all the saves again and the money only appeared on the Ironborn's 6th turn.
i then downloaded every turn between their 5th and 6th save with the intention of loading each one and skipping through to the Greyjoy turn. doing so would allow me to find out which faction added the money.

The first picture is when I loaded the Lannister save, as you can see the money is correct.
The second picture is when I loaded and skipped from the Tyrell turn.

This evidence shows that the money was added on after the start of the Lannister turn and before the start of the Tyrell turn.
Add this to the fact that the Lannisters have been a suspect for the 80k that appeared and we have our possible cheater.