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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17571982

    Rebel assault on strategic Mali garrison town of Gao

    Malian government soldiers have struggled to push the rebels back

    Tuareg rebels in Mali have attacked the strategic northern garrison town of Gao with heavy weapons, hours after another town, Kidal, fell to them.

    Two army helicopters were scrambled in response, a local official told AFP news agency by phone.

    Gao, with a population of 87,000, more than twice the size of Kidal, hosts one of the biggest garrisons in the north.

    Separatist rebels seeking to carve out a desert homeland began a rebellion in the west African state in January.

    A regional group, the Economic Community of West African States (Ecowas), has placed on alert a peacekeeping force of 2,000 soldiers, Ivory Coast President Alassane Ouattara was quoted as saying by AFP news agency.

    After a coup by disgruntled military officers in Mali a week ago, Ecowas has threatened to close land borders, freeze assets and impose a financial blockade if the army does not stand aside before Monday.

    The UK's Foreign and Commonwealth Office has now advised against all travel to Mali and urges any British citizens currently there to leave.

    'People running'

    "We can hear heavy fire coming in the direction of the main military camp," a Reuters reporter said.

    "People here are running all over the place and all the shops are closing."

    Mahamane Diakite, an aide to the governor of Gao, told AFP: "We can hear heavy weapons fire. We have also seen two helicopters taking off to shoot. Rebels have entered the town."



    Malians with family members in Gao say the city is under attack from multiple rocket launchers, the Associated Press reports.

    Correspondents say the rebels can expect to meet tougher resistance in Gao, where the majority of troops are from the Bambara tribe, unlike Kidal, where the majority of troops were Tuareg.

    Before the coup, Mali's government forces had struggled to drive back the rebels.

    The mid-ranking officers who overthrew the government said the army needed more equipment to fight.

    Their leader, Capt Amadou Sanogo, has asked for foreign help to tackle the rebels but has been condemned over the coup.

    Three members of the military leadership have gone to neighbouring Burkina Faso for talks with President Blaise Compaore, who is mediating in the crisis.

    One of the three - junta chief of staff Colonel Moussa Sinko Coulibaly - said after the talks that he agreed on the need to restore normality.

    "There should be a regular and normal constitutional life, and now, the way to establish this, that is what we are going to discuss," he said.

    Libyan guns

    The Tuareg fought side by side with Islamist fighters to take over Kidal, the BBC's Thomas Fessy reports from Dakar.

    However, it is not clear how they will share their success, our correspondent says.

    Rebels from the National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad (MNLA) want an independent north while a smaller, Islamist group called the Ansar Edine wants to impose Sharia law.

    Azawad is the Tuareg name for their home region in the Sahara Desert.

    The Tuaregs have launched several rebellions over the years, complaining that the government in Bamako ignores them.

    The conflict has been fuelled by the return of Tuareg fighters from Libya last year after fighting for the late Muammar Gaddafi or his opponents.

    It appears these fighters are heavily armed with looted weapons.

    Analysts say the rebels have taken advantage of the recent military coup to move swiftly from target to target across the north.

    If Gao falls, the only major town in government hands in the north will be Timbuktu.



    If Gao falls then Timbuktu is doomed.So this means that the next nation that will become independent will be a Tuareg country

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    And here is Le Monde french article on the revolt:

    http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/articl...8669_3212.html

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    It would seem that the recent coup in Mali, even if did have good intentions (we'll see...) came at about the worst time possible for the country as a whole, since before it happened I believe the Tuareg rebels were mostly contained.

    Of course, the fact that the Tuareg fighters themselves were largely absent for the better part of a year because they were busy playing mercenary for Ghaddafi might have had something to do with it.
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    What a contrast to neighboring Senegal, which just last week had fair democratic elections leading to a peaceful exchange of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papay View Post


    If Gao falls then Timbuktu is doomed.
    If Timbuktoo falls then Bamako falls. If Bamako falls then Ougadougoo in Burkina Faso is threatened. I dont want to even think what is going to happen if that falls.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    If Timbuktoo falls then Bamako falls. If Bamako falls then Ougadougoo in Burkina Faso is threatened. I dont want to even think what is going to happen if that falls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    If Timbuktoo falls then Bamako falls. If Bamako falls then Ougadougoo in Burkina Faso is threatened. I dont want to even think what is going to happen if that falls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    If Timbuktoo falls then Bamako falls. If Bamako falls then Ougadougoo in Burkina Faso is threatened. I dont want to even think what is going to happen if that falls.
    Timbuktu has fallen.

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    I see a potential problem here, apart from the killing. The whole Saharan part of the country is controlled by separatist rebels, and the rest is controlled by a de facto military dictatorship that came to power at about the same time as the rebels.

    It does not bode well for conflict resolution.

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    If Timbuktu has really fallen, then perhaps the coup makers was right about the need for more money and equipment to fight the war. As motiv-8 mentioned, it just might have been the worst time possible for them to pull their little coup d'etat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    Interesting. It appears the rebels practically have the borders of their proposed state under control and are now looking to consolidate. I assume Mali will attempt to strike back eventually, but could Azawad be the newest (un)recognized state in the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acco View Post
    Interesting. It appears the rebels practically have the borders of their proposed state under control and are now looking to consolidate. I assume Mali will attempt to strike back eventually, but could Azawad be the newest (un)recognized state in the world?
    No because there are Sharia boys in the revolt.
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    If Timbuktoo falls then Bamako falls. If Bamako falls then Ougadougoo in Burkina Faso is threatened. I dont want to even think what is going to happen if that falls.
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    So when will the Foreign Legion be jumping in? They never miss an opportunity to shoot a few Tuareg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gurkhan View Post
    So when will the Foreign Legion be jumping in? They never miss an opportunity to shoot a few Tuareg.
    When it becomes clear the Islamists presence is strong among the revolt.

    Now be serious, the problem of this revolt is there is a small but solid elements of Islamic fundamentalism among the rebels; so unless the Sharia boys got an upper hand among the rebels, I don't see why the world should intervene.
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    Kind of similiar to what happened in Sudan. Except backwards. Arabs want independence from Black Africans in Mali. Whereas Black Africans wanted independence from Arabs. Oh, the circle of life.
    Did you know that Mali was called French Sudan once upon a time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cesarz View Post
    Kind of similiar to what happened in Sudan. Except backwards. Arabs want independence from Black Africans in Mali. Whereas Black Africans wanted independence from Arabs. Oh, the circle of life.
    Did you know that Mali was called French Sudan once upon a time?

    I believe the Tuareg are a Berber people actually and not Arab.

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