NATO may purposely fail to rescue Libyan refugee

[hellheaven1987]

A report into the deaths of 63 Libyan refugees on a small boat last May said a "catalogue of errors" by coastguards and Nato meant they were never rescued.

The Council of Europe inquiry says two Nato ships close by failed to respond to distress calls, and no country launched a search and rescue mission.

Only nine people survived the 15-day Mediterranean voyage after the boat ran out of fuel and drifted back to Libya.

Nato has said it has no record of any aircraft or ship contacting the boat.

However, it says other search and rescue missions were launched around this time.

The report says some 1,500 people died at sea trying to reach Europe in 2011.

Many of these were trying to flee from Libya or other conflicts in North Africa.

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What do you guys think? We know EU, although on one hand throw chaos in those North African countries and creates bunch of refugee, yet on the other hand they also impose harsher measurement to restrict those refugee they created to enter Europe due to increasing xenophobia movement at home. Is EU lied about their fake human right champion status (self-proclaimed)? Should the world press EU to take responsibility of creating those messes by taking those refugees in (afterall, Europeans love to play this fake human right champion game)?

[s.rwitt]

Wait, who created the refugees?

[sumskilz]

Wait, who created the refugees?

Obviously it was the Europeans because there were no problems before colonialism.

[Primo]

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What do you guys think? We know EU, although on one hand throw chaos in those North African countries and creates bunch of refugee, yet on the other hand they also impose harsher measurement to restrict those refugee they created to enter Europe due to increasing xenophobia movement at home. Is EU lied about their fake human right champion status (self-proclaimed)? Should the world press EU to take responsibility of creating those messes by taking those refugees in (afterall, Europeans love to play this fake human right champion game)?

That is no EU-Only problem. Where do you live?

Obviously not in the EU.

[Basil II the B.S]

What do you guys think? We know EU, although on one hand throw chaos in those North African countries and creates bunch of refugee, yet on the other hand they also impose harsher measurement to restrict those refugee they created to enter Europe due to increasing xenophobia movement at home. Is EU lied about their fake human right champion status (self-proclaimed)? Should the world press EU to take responsibility of creating those messes by taking those refugees in (afterall, Europeans love to play this fake human right champion game)?

What is this? I don't even..

Italy alone has taken some 50.000 refugees from Lybia last year...

[hellheaven1987]

Italy alone has taken some 50.000 refugees from Lybia last year...

And then France told Italy they cannot allow those Arabs flow into France - basically told Italy to be the refugee camp.

[Bobz]

And then France told Italy they cannot allow those Arabs flow into France - basically told Italy to be the refugee camp.

No country wants thousands of refugees flooding in, what exactly would France to with them all?

As sad as it may be, hundreds of immigrants drown in the Mediterrean Sea trying to reach Europe, and many aren't rescued. Not sure what makes this one any different, apart from an opportunity to make some ill-defined point.

[Babur]

No country wants thousands of refugees flooding in

China included

[s.rwitt]

It was benevolent warfare and slavery.

[Exarch]

silly people
"Responsibility 2 Protect" only applies if there's oil to be gained or if it furthers your own geopolitical agenda. it's not about protecting civilians at all.

[Col. Tartleton]

Screw the Libyans. RIP Qaddafi. Down With Al Qaeda! Long Live The Colonel! Long Live الجمهورية العربية الليبية

You were always on my mind; you were always on my mind.

[s.rwitt]

silly people
"Responsibility 2 Protect" only applies if there's oil to be gained or if it furthers your own geopolitical agenda. it's not about protecting civilians at all.

Yeah, that's really......really.......really.....far from the truth. At least when you're actually on the ground, attempting to protect civilians.

[Exarch]

Yeah, that's really......really.......really.....far from the truth. At least when you're actually on the ground, attempting to protect civilians.

it's an oxymoron like 'lead from behind', 'Natural Flavour', '99% Fat Free' and 'No Added Sugar'

[Rolling Thunder]

it's an oxymoron like 'lead from behind', 'Natural Flavour', '99% Fat Free' and 'No Added Sugar'

On the ground trying to protect civilians is an oxymoron?

Clearly you have no idea how civilized nations conduct warfare.

[Exarch]

On the ground trying to protect civilians is an oxymoron?

Clearly you have no idea how civilized nations conduct warfare.

no different to 'uncivilised nations'; war is war,

soldiers are not police officers, or boy scouts; they are there to carry out their nation's geopolitical objectives.

[Rolling Thunder]

no different to 'uncivilised nations'; war is war,

Utter bullcrap. We can compare the difference in the manner of fighting as far back as 1945 - Germans surrendered en masse to the Allies, to the point that they actually fled the Eastern Front in hopes of being captured by the Allies, as opposed to the fate that awaited them in Soviet hands (being hung, machine-gunned or spending a decade in Siberia for teh lulz. We may also not the absence of massed gang rape on the Western Front, the tactical consideration for men and material employed on the western front (vis a vis the massed, almost WW1-esque sledgehammer stupidity that was the Red Army).

[motiv-8]

war is war,

Whoever told you that is a fool or a liar, sorry to say. Common objective (to win, if I may state the obvious), many different methods of execution. War is like forked paths all leading to the same place, with some being better to take.

[nein]

>impose harsher measurement to restrict those refugee they created to enter Europe due to increasing xenophobia movement at home

damn those white devils!!! When will they stop being evil?

Also resisting cultural and ethnic suicide is not xenophobia... that word actually means 'blind irrational hatred'.

[s.rwitt]

it's an oxymoron like 'lead from behind', 'Natural Flavour', '99% Fat Free' and 'No Added Sugar'

Not when you're the one doing it.

[s.rwitt]

no different to 'uncivilised nations'; war is war,

Um...yes it is different when you're from a civilized nation. Living under a Western occupation would be far easier than living under a North Korean one, don't you think?

It has to do with the values a nation raises their children with. When you're actually on the ground, you're not thinking "well, the geopolitical objectives of my country are X, so I should do Y". We are not robots.