Debug cam and replays: hotfix coming

The "debug camera" issue is one we've noticed has stirred a fair bit of reaction lately, so we wanted to give you an update as to our thinking on this one.

Each time we make a decision, we do so because we think it's right for the game. We removed the debug cam in the spirit of fair play, but we had no earthly clue just how popular it was until we announced the patch details and saw your reaction.

The "feature" was never intended for public consumption, and a variety of people complained that its presence undermined the multiplayer community. That said, others in the multiplayer community tell us that it's essential to drive top-level competition, and that some of the greatest TW battles ever fought have been fought with equal debug-enabled advantage.

So, we’ve decided that the best solution is to re-enable this camera, and will be doing that in a hotfix released shortly (likely in the next couple of days). We also recognise that there have been some issues with battle replays, so I’m pleased to say we’ve fixed those too and that also forms part of the hotfix.

We're glad to see so many people enjoying Fall of the Samurai this week. As we always aim for with Total War releases, hopefully you'll love it for years to come.

I hope that you'll make all players aware of it's existance and how to enable and use it.

Credits to CA for this very good decission. Also good to hear about the replay fix.

That said, others in the multiplayer community tell us that it's essential to drive top-level competition, and that some of the greatest TW battles ever fought have been fought with equal debug-enabled advantage.

but we had no earthly clue just how popular it was

There are a hell of a lot more people who never used the debug cam or wont read the forums to know about its existance.So its hardly in the favour of balance and fair play when people can get unfair views of the battlefield and have better micro than people who use the default camera.Obviously someone has been telling CA a few porkies that MP will die and all the top players will quit.

It was nonsense they all bought FOTS and played without it.I dont want to play anyone with debug cam so you are just going to give in to what 200 odd people Craig? If you check the poll they created it was about 60% in favour and 40% opposed to this.

Will you hotfix in battle realism mode for multiplayer then so we can play people with equal cam distance? This is just a bad decision all round.And what about a hotfix or a reply for all the threads on the graphical bugs too? I think that was more of a priority than pandering to the needs of a few people.

CA need to really rethink this decision as there are many still opposed to this idea.The top players only account for a small part of your sales remember.We all have equal say on this matter.

Craig I'm loving fall of the samurai thank you

Of all the things you've ever backed down on... Still, if I'm the minority, I can accept that. I just hope that for the future you'll consider a debug cam filter.

Originally Posted by Lazarus

Of all the things you've ever backed down on... Still, if I'm the minority, I can accept that. I just hope that for the future you'll consider a debug cam filter.

+1

I don`t agree with this, but it`s not a surprise to see CA back down so easily to this. Good online players should be proud to use the restricted camera. I feel it kills the spirit of Medieval type and realistic warfare, but I guess CA obviously demonstrate they don`t give two hoots to that. I will not protest it though, but I`ll never use it. And it`s guaranteed I`ll never venture for an online TW play knowing there are guys using this.

Good news on the Replay though.

I've never really used the debug camera but im very happy for the replay fix! Been waiting a long time for this one

Are you working on a patch for the blood pack aswell as blood no longer seem to show up on armour but only on the sword/weapon itself? And removing the gloss, was that intentional or is it something you are working on to fix?Original Shogun 2 graphics seems worse after FOTS patch..

Thankfull for any response on the matter!

Merci, Merci, Merci CA
Thanks for both fix

Please put back the F1 selection group as well plz (or single unit selection group) Alot of players is asking for it back in this thread here
http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...ction-grouping

Originally Posted by VersionLangley

Merci, Merci, Merci CA
Thanks for both fix

Please put back the F1 selection group as well plz (or single unit selection group) Alot of players is asking for it back in this thread here
http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...ction-grouping

that still in the game, use control+g and number keys instead

Originally Posted by AggonyKing

that still in the game, use control+g and number keys instead

It does not function properly at all and most importantly no single unit selection group like F keys

Link for CA to read
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=531387

No your wall text ain't good

Craig i should of made it clear about battle realism mode.What i intended to get across was the idea that there would be a filter or option to play people using the battle realism mode from singleplayer.

This way people can play other people using the same camera types.

Thanks for the heads up Craig and CA,looking forward to replays working again.

Still no better cam and we are back to where we started,maybe next title eh ?

Thanks Craig, all good news

Originally Posted by CraigTW

The "debug camera" issue is one we've noticed has stirred a fair bit of reaction lately, so we wanted to give you an update as to our thinking on this one.

Each time we make a decision, we do so because we think it's right for the game. We removed the debug cam in the spirit of fair play, but we had no earthly clue just how popular it was until we announced the patch details and saw your reaction.

The "feature" was never intended for public consumption, and a variety of people complained that its presence undermined the multiplayer community. That said, others in the multiplayer community tell us that it's essential to drive top-level competition, and that some of the greatest TW battles ever fought have been fought with equal debug-enabled advantage.

So, we’ve decided that the best solution is to re-enable this camera, and will be doing that in a hotfix released shortly (likely in the next couple of days). We also recognise that there have been some issues with battle replays, so I’m pleased to say we’ve fixed those too and that also forms part of the hotfix.

We're glad to see so many people enjoying Fall of the Samurai this week. As we always aim for with Total War releases, hopefully you'll love it for years to come.

Is there coming other fixes too? Like parrot cannons need smoke effect, land become a sea, awful graphic, etc... there is a lot bugs and problems after patch, if you havent noticed in Bug section.
Also some units have really same stats as price is different. :/

Thank you!
It was necessary to play decently

Originally Posted by Humble Warrior

Good online players should be proud to use the restricted camera. I feel it kills the spirit of Medieval type and realistic warfare.

As the hardcore MP players have said themselves, they don't care about realistic warfare and fighting and all that. They just want to watch flags crash into other flags.

Originally Posted by Enyalios

As the hardcore MP players have said themselves, they don't care about realistic warfare and fighting and all that. They just want to watch flags crash into other flags. May as well play a game of chess.

I know they don`t care. It`s painfully obvious knowing that I came from multiplay gaming where adults cared very much for authenticity and realism. The guys I played with would eat TW onliners for breakfast and spit them back out. It`s a pity they don`t play TW games so we could teach you guys how it`s done...

Originally Posted by Humble Warrior

. The guys I played with would eat TW onliners for breakfast and spit them back out. It`s a pity they don`t play TW games so we could teach you guys how it`s done...

lol