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  • The British Warrior Class

    82 72.57%
  • The American Roanoke Class

    11 9.73%
  • The French L'Ocean Class

    20 17.70%
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    Default Which Is The Best Ironclad?

    Im about to build the port that can build one of the western powers ironclads and i cant decide which one to make.

    Heres some pics i found of the actual ships...

    The Roanoke

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    The Warrior

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    The L'Ocean

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    This is the best pic i can find


    I dont know if the stats are the same or if theyre just different looks wise, also if anybody has some actual in game screens of these ships could you post them?

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    Default Re: Which Is The Best Ironclad?

    I actually did some testing on this, and superior armor means the US one can beat the Japanese and the French ironclad, and it looks the coolest. But the sheer amount of cannons means that the Warrior is the best ship you can possibly get (that and it has thicker armor than the US one). The US one does have the added benefit of it's crew being protected from all forms of fire save direct hits to the turret though

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    Default Re: Which Is The Best Ironclad?

    haven't tried them all but that warrior class must have been terrifying in its time......

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    The Warrior. It doesn't matter it has less armour than the Roanoke; it can destroy the Roanoke from afar. In fact, it can, on its own, defeat *any* ship from afar. I've shredded through entire fleets with just the Warrior.

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    Default Re: Which Is The Best Ironclad?

    In game? The Warrior. Reality though? L'Ocean (someone posted on the massive discrepancy in stats)
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    Well the British were the main naval power of the time. Makes sense. I think the Japanese modelled their navy on the British eventually.

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    True, but the Ocean had thicker armor, more guns, and a larger crew then the Warrior. I dont understand why CA didn't just pick a more contemporary inferior French Ironclad but, I'm not too beat up about it.
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    The turrets on the real world Roanoke were supposed to be able to rotate to a degree, like modern naval cannons. That would have been so cool to see ingame. As for the poll, I go with the Ocean.

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    Aw, now I regret accepting the American mission.
    The British Warrior class look way more deadly.

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    Default Re: Which Is The Best Ironclad?

    Quote Originally Posted by leeo268 View Post
    Aw, now I regret accepting the American mission.
    The British Warrior class look way more deadly.
    I do, as well. They were the first that asked, and Im from the US, so I was like, "AlRIGHT! USA USA USA!"


    And now, I don't want to get rid of it, because my American ironclads are so vetted up, that it would be a shame to lose them.


    EDIT: The Roanoke WAS the predecessor of modern turrets. They rotated and everything.

    But they can't in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra View Post
    EDIT: The Roanoke WAS the predecessor of modern turrets. They rotated and everything.
    Well, not quite. People often make that mistake. The revolving gun house design was by Ericsson and the guns were loaded with hydraulic rammers which were fixed on the centreline of the hull, below deck, so after each shot the revolving gun house had to be rotated to face down the centreline of the ship for the gun breeches to align with the below-deck mounted rammers. An extremely slow process.

    This was the same system used in USS Monitor.

    USS Roanoke is a peculiar ship for CA to choose since she was a failure. The weight of her guns and armour made her roll badly in a sea and her hull could not withstand the continuous firing of her own guns. She was relegated to a harbour guardship after only a few months service.

    I suppose the game code to write a revolving gun house was too complex for CA, plus I doubt they even realised her gun houses had to be turned to one particular position in order to reload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeo268 View Post
    Aw, now I regret accepting the American mission.
    The British Warrior class look way more deadly.
    They are but at least the American Ironclads are affordable. The Warrior class costs about 2000 koku on up keep alone:S

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    When I saw pictures of the Roanoke:
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    and the ingame shots of it, I thought it looked like a predecessor of modern day ship turrets, but after seeing it in game, I guessed wrong.

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    Default Re: Which Is The Best Ironclad?

    Wow.


    BOTH American ironclads COMBINED aren't that expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra View Post
    Wow.


    BOTH American ironclads COMBINED aren't that expensive.
    And they costs about 18000 to make

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra View Post
    Wow.


    BOTH American ironclads COMBINED aren't that expensive.
    my campaign its 1600, but its 16k to buy! you only get one.... I think.

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    Good: British
    Medium: France
    Low: American

    But i prefer the design of the American Ironclad, that english is a sort of old ship with iron .-.

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    Default Re: Which Is The Best Ironclad?

    Which one is ACTUALLY better, though.

    I know the Warrior is the best, but is the American second best or third?

    Because I've heard people say both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra View Post
    Which one is ACTUALLY better, though.

    I know the Warrior is the best, but is the American second best or third?

    Because I've heard people say both.
    American one is beaten only by the Warrior in all of my battles, and it puts up a halfway decent fight doing it. Of all 4 iron clads, warrior is the best, americans is second, french third and japanese 4th

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    Default Re: Which Is The Best Ironclad?

    The Warrior certainly looks pretty.

    The Roanoke is certainly ugly.

    L'Ocean looks like an iron clad Black Pearl. Scary.


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