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    Default Modern Age (A Contemporary Fantasy Mod Idea)

    WIP Brainstorm

    Medieval Game Play with Modern Nation States

    I selected 199 Cities which did a balanced job of representing world population, urbanization, and advancement. As such the United States has half again as many provinces as India. America has the infrastructure which dwarfs the few countries larger than it and is highly decentralized across both coasts and the Midwest. China still has the most provinces, however it will have internal problems which prevent it from steam rolling its ways across Asia for a while (same with India). The US begins with a huge debt.Smaller capital cities of other countries would be stone forts full of rebels while major military installations would be full of troops. For example Fort Bragg would be a major installation in what is North Carolina and Fort Benning would be an installation in Georgia and Fort Knox would be in Kentucky.

    The Assassin would be used for Strategic Air Power as they can attack enemy commanders and sabotage infrastructure. They'd have to have their move distance modified a bit. You put a fleet off their coast and you can use them to launch attacks at their cities and armies or deploy forces.

    Spies become Spy Satellites. Which can be disabled (caught.)

    Merchants represent entire companies developing the resources in an area.

    Diplomats wouldn't change very much.

    The two main religions are Globalism and Isolationism. Globalism is Catholicism and Isolationism is Heresy. The United Nations is located in NYC (I might consider NYC being 2 cities so the US will still have it), anyhow since everyone is UN any wars against powerful countries gets you shouted down by the UN. If you try to conquer too fast or otherwise mess with His Eminence the Secretary General Ban Ki Moon you can invoke a world wide Coalition Army to destroy you. "Terrorism" might be a Pagan religion, seeing as Witches have the ability to give negative effects. UN Inspectors (Inquisitors could also feature.)

    Sovereign (Playable) Factions:
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    The People's Republic of China 22 Provinces
    The Republic of Korea 3 Provinces
    The State of Japan 5 Provinces
    The Republic of Indonesia 2 Provinces
    The Republic of the Philippines 2 Provinces
    The Socialist Republic of Viet Nam 2 Provinces
    The Commonwealth of Australia 2 Provinces
    The Federal Republic of Brazil 11 Provinces
    The Republic of Colombia 3 Provinces
    The United States of America 20 Provinces
    The Canadian Confederation 3 Provinces
    The United States of Mexico 3 Provinces
    The United Kingdom 4 Provinces
    The Federal Republic of Germany 4 Provinces
    The Republic of Poland 2 Provinces
    The Russian Federation 2 Provinces
    The Republic of India 13 Provinces
    The Islamic Republic of Pakistan 4 Provinces
    The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia 2 Provinces
    The Islamic Republic of Iran 2 Provinces
    The Republic of Turkey 2 Provinces
    The Syrian Arab Republic 2 Provinces
    The Arab Republic of Egypt 2 Provinces
    The Federal Republic of Nigeria 2 Provinces
    The Republic of South Africa 3 Provinces
    The State of Israel 1 Province
    The Kingdom of Spain 2 Provinces
    The Italian Republic 3 Provinces
    The French Republic 1 Province
    The United Nations (Papacy) 1 Province


    Rebels:
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    The European Union (European Rebels Flag)
    -Northern European Rebels
    -Western European Rebels
    -South European Rebels
    -East European Rebels
    The African Union (African Rebels Flag)
    -North African Rebels
    -West African Rebels
    -Central African Rebels
    -South African Rebels
    -East African Rebels
    The Union of South American Nations (Latin American Rebels Flag)
    -Central American Rebels
    -South American Rebels
    The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (East Asian Rebels Flag)
    -East Asian Rebels
    -Southeast Asian Rebels
    The South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (Indian Subcontinent Rebels Flag)
    -Indian Rebels
    -West Asian Rebels
    The Arab League (North African and Middle Eastern Rebels)
    -Arab Rebels
    The Commonwealth of Nations (Anglo-Sphere Rebel Flag)
    -North American Rebels
    -British Rebels
    -Australian Rebels


    Various International Organizations (Guilds):
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    North Atlantic Treaty Organization
    Organization of Petroleum Exporting Nations

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    Hmm intresting, quite a nice idea
    Hope you dont mind some critisim/questions
    your city distribution is of imo though
    france is as powerful as britian and germany so deserves at least 4
    china could lose a few about 12 same with the USA
    Russia deserves more, you shouldnt just use population, but military strength and spending power, so australia and canada need more too
    Brazil could stand to lose a few
    and are you doing korean peninsula or just north/south?

    other wise looks good

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    Quote Originally Posted by David93 View Post
    Hmm intresting, quite a nice idea
    Hope you dont mind some critisim/questions
    your city distribution is of imo though
    france is as powerful as britian and germany so deserves at least 4

    Most likely will be changed. It's just that the other major cities in France are quite a bit smaller. I'll probably re-balance it again. Part of my thinking is that if you took Paris you basically take France, it's so centralized. But that's not really fair to the French faction.

    china could lose a few about 12 same with the USA

    Quite possible. The Eastern and Southern provinces/municipalities are tiny so they could be combined. America could trim the fat.

    Russia deserves more, you shouldnt just use population, but military strength and spending power, so australia and canada need more too

    Yeah I kind of went around this backwards. I put a focus on cities of the world and then went backwards into assigning them to their respective countries.

    Brazil could stand to lose a few

    Yeah they have a disproportionate amount. It's a very urbanized country, so that's why it's disproportionate.

    and are you doing korean peninsula or just north/south?

    North Korea (Pyongyang) would be an Asian rebel region. It's not exactly a world player, but it's a major military power in the region so it would be quite built up militarily.

    other wise looks good
    This is a better look at what I was thinking.

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    EAST ASIA
    The People’s Republic of China 22

    Shanghai, China
    Beijing, China (Capital)
    Guangzhou, China
    Lhasa, China
    Urumqi, China
    Tianjin, China
    Hong Kong, China
    Wuhan, China
    Shenyang, China
    Chongqing, China
    Nanjing, China
    Chengdu, China
    Hangzhou, China
    Xi’an, China
    Qingdao, China
    Harbin, China
    Kunming, China
    Xining, China
    Changchun, China
    Changsha, China
    Nanchang, China
    Hohhot, China

    The State of Japan 5
    Tokyo, Japan (Capital)
    Osaka, Japan
    Nagoya, Japan
    Fukuoka, Japan
    Sapporo, Japan

    The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea 1
    Pyongyang, North Korea (Capital)
    The Republic of Korea 3
    Seoul, South Korea (Capital)
    Busan, South Korea
    Daegu, South Korea

    The Republic of China 1
    Taipei, Taiwan (Capital)
    The Republic of Mongolia 1
    Ulan Bator (Capital)

    SOUTHEAST ASIA
    The Republic of Indonesia 4

    Jakarta, Indonesia (Capital)
    Bandung, Indonesia
    Surabaya, Indonesia
    Medan, Indonesia

    The Republic of the Philippines 2
    Manila, Philippines (Capital)
    San Juan, Philippines

    The Socialist Republic of Viet Nam 2
    Ho Chi Mihn, Viet Nam (Capital)
    Ha Noi, Viet Nam

    Thailand 1
    Bangkok, Thailand (Capital)
    Singapore 1
    Singapore, Singapore (Capital)
    Myanmar 1
    Yangon, Myanmar (Capital)
    Malaysia 1
    Kuala Lampur, Malaysia (Capital)
    The Kingdom of Cambodia 1
    Phnom Penh (Capital)

    OCEANIA
    The Commonwealth of Australia 2

    Sydney, Australia
    Melbourne, Australia

    New Zealand 1
    Auckland, New Zealand

    SOUTH ASIA
    The Republic of India 13

    Mumbai, India
    Delhi, India (Capital)
    Kolkata, India
    Chennai, India
    Bangalore, India
    Hyderabad, India
    Ahmedabad, India
    Pune, India
    Surat, India
    Kanpur, India
    Jaipur, India
    Lucknow, India
    Nagpur, India

    The Islamic Republic of Pakistan 4
    Karachi, Pakistan (Capital)
    Lahore, Pakistan
    Faisalabad, Pakistan
    Rawalpindi, Pakistan

    The People’s Republic of Bangladesh 1
    Dhaka, Bangladesh

    WEST ASIA
    The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan
    Kabul, Afghanistan (Capital)
    The Islamic Republic of Iran 2
    Tehran, Iran (Capital)
    Mashhad, Iran

    The Republic of Turkey 3
    Istanbul, Turkey
    Ankara, Turkey (Capital)
    Izmir, Turkey

    The Republic of Iraq 1
    Baghdad, Iraq (Capital)
    The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia 2
    Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (Capital)
    Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

    The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan 1
    Amman, Jordan (Capital)
    The State of Israel
    Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel (Capital)
    The Republic of Uzbekistan 1
    Tashkent, Uzbekistan
    The United Arab Emirates 1
    Dubai, United Arab Emirates
    The Syrian Arab Republic 2
    Aleppo, Syria
    Damascus, Syria

    The Republic of Azerbaijan
    Baku, Azerbaijan
    The Republic of Kazakhstan
    Almaty, Kazakhstan
    The Republic of Armenia
    Yerevan, Armenia
    The Republic of Georgia
    Tsibili, Georgia

    NORTHERN AFRICA
    The Arab Republic of Egypt 2

    Cairo, Egypt (Capital)
    Alexandria, Egypt

    The Republic of Sudan
    Khartoum, Sudan (Capital)
    The Republic of Ethiopia
    Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (Capital)
    The People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria
    Algiers, Algeria (Capital)
    The Kingdom of Morocco
    Ad-Dar al-Bayda, Morocco (Capital)
    The Tunisian Republic
    Tunis, Tunisia
    The Republic of Mali
    Sikasso, Mali
    Lybia
    Tripoli, Libya
    The Somali Republic
    Mogadishu, Somalia
    The Republic of Burkina Faso
    Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso

    SOUTHERN AFRICA
    The Federal Republic of Nigeria

    Lagos, Nigeria
    Kano, Nigeria

    The Democratic Republic of the Congo
    Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo
    The Republic of South Africa
    Johannesburg, South Africa
    Durban, South Africa
    Cape Town, South Africa

    The Republic of Cote d’Ivoire
    Abidjan, Cote d’Ivoire (Capital)
    The Republic of Angola
    Luanda, Angola (Capital)
    The Republic of Kenya
    Nairobi, Kenya (Capital)
    The Republic of Senegal
    Dakar, Senegal (Capital)
    The United Republic of Tanzania
    Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania
    The Republic of Zimbabwe
    Harare, Zimbabwe
    The Republic of Mozambique
    Maputo, Mozambique
    The Republic of Cameroon
    Douala, Cameroon
    The Republic of Ghana
    Accra, Ghana (Capital)
    The Republic of Guinea
    Conakry, Guinea (Capital)
    The Republic of Zambia
    Lusaka, Zambia (Capital)
    The Republic of Madagascar
    Antananarivo, Madagascar

    NORTH AMERICA
    The Canadian Confederation 3

    Toronto, Canada (Capital)
    Montreal, Canada
    Vancouver, Canada

    The United States of American 21
    New York, United States
    Los Angeles, United States
    Chicago, United States
    San Francisco, United States
    Philadelphia, United States
    Miami, United States
    Dallas, United States
    Boston, United States
    Houston, United States
    Washington, United States (Capital)
    Atlanta, United States
    Detroit, United States
    Phoenix, United States
    San Diego, United States
    Seattle, United States
    Minneapolis, United States
    Tampa, United States
    Denver, United States
    St. Louis, United States
    Baltimore, United States

    Mexico 3
    Mexico, Mexico (Capital)
    Guadalajara, Mexico
    Monterrey, Mexico

    The Republic of Haiti
    Port-Au-Prince, Haiti
    The Dominican Republic
    Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
    The Republic of Cuba
    Havana, Cuba

    SOUTH AMERICA
    The Argentine Republic
    Buenos Aires, Argentina (Capital)
    The Federal Republic of Brazil
    San Paulo, Brazil
    Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
    Belo Horizonte, Brazil
    Recife, Brazil
    Porto Alegre, Brazil
    Fortaleza, Brazil
    Salvador, Brazil
    Curitiba, Brazil
    Campinas, Brazil
    Colombo, Brazil
    Brasilia, Brazil (Capital)

    Chile
    Santiago, Chile (Capital)
    The Republic of Colombia
    Bogota, Colombia (Capital)
    Medellin, Colombia
    Cali, Colombia

    The Republic of Ecuador
    Guayaquil, Ecuador (Capital)
    The Republic of Peru
    Lima, Peru (Capital)
    The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela
    Caracas, Venezuela (Capital)
    The Multinational State of Bolivia
    Santa Cruz, Bolivia (Capital)
    The Republic of Paraguay
    Asuncion, Paraguay (Capital)
    The Republic of Uruguay
    Montevideo, Uruguay (Capital)
    The Republic of Guatemala
    Guatemala, Guatemala (Capital)

    EUROPE
    The United Kingdom

    London, United Kingdom (Capital)
    Birmingham, United Kingdom
    Manchester, United Kingdom
    Preston, United Kingdom

    The Russian Federation
    Moscow, Russia (Capital)
    Saint Petersburg, Russia

    The French Republic
    Paris, France
    The Federal Republic of Germany
    Essen, Germany
    Berlin, Germany
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Bonn, Germany

    The Kingdom of Spain
    Madrid, Spain
    Barcelona, Spain

    The Portuguese Republic
    Lisbon, Portugal
    The Italian Republic
    Milano, Italy
    Napoli, Italy
    Roma, Italy

    The Hellenic Republic
    Athens, Greece
    Ukraine
    Kyiv, Ukraine
    Poland
    Katowice, Poland
    Warsaw, Poland
    The Kingdom of the Netherlands
    Rotterdam, Netherlands
    Romania
    Bucharest, Romania
    The Kingdom of Sweden
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Hungary
    Budapest, Hungary
    The Republic of Belarus
    Minsk, Belarus
    The Republic of Austria
    Vienna, Austria (Capital)
    The Republic of Serbia
    Belgrade, Serbia (Capital)
    The Czech Republic
    Prague, Czech Republic
    The Republic of Bulgaria
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    The Republic of Switzerland
    Zurich, Switzerland
    The Republic of Ireland
    Dublin, Ireland


    I'd want it to be kind of fantasy. So it's the modern places with a more medieval-historical feeling. Either make them look totally modern and just reduce their weapons to fit the system (for example making a G36 into an Aquebus) which would have a more table top feeling to it. Or alternatively put the troops in their dress uniforms and make it a bit more colorful and stylized. I've seen the Monster Bombard turned into a "tank" by making it a unit rather than siege equipment, so tanks are definitely doable. Personally I think both would have an appeal, but a more Napoleonic style would look better in the engine and give it an appeal. Other games are more appropriate for realistic portrayals. This could be something more exotic. But that's just a thought. Realistic would be better.

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    this sounds completely crazy !!! haha i like it !

    best of luck with it!


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    Sounds awesome, I'd love to conquer the world with Germany. Rise of the Fourth Reich and all that.

    How would you design the units? Don't know if tanks will be possible (or just make tanks into elephant-like units) and full auto rifles should be hard to make too, but the idea is definitely awesome!

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    i'm pretty sure to have seen rifles and tanks by some place..

    maybe Planet war ?


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    I know they did it for the Great War, but that's on Empire or Napoleon.

    I figure a unit of say 36 Infantry and 3 Officers would be an Infantry Platoon. Give them a decent amount of spread normally and make the spread large enough when they're in loose and it will look relatively sane. The Lithuanian Handgunners "not knowing they're gunners" makes them fire en masse and without reloading, would make them shoot properly as a group. Furthermore for some units you could give them an alternative fire mode to use grenade launchers I imagine, albeit with limited ammunition. It'd be quite different in itself. Then one simply assigns numbers of wounds to the units to represent body armor type stuff have a real effect. Their close combat weapon could be a Bayonet added onto the rifle which would use the Halberd animations or a combat knife if that's more appropriate.

    A self propelled Howitzer would be quite doable, though Battle tanks might be a bit off. Depends if turrets could be done convincingly to pan and shoot at enemies. Horse Archers do so, so it would be possible. Four Howitzers or Tanks would be a Platoon as well. Artillery would be similar. Four Howitzers or Six Mortars with 24 men.
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    Yeah, I definitely think it's doable with some workarounds - I think Call of Warhammer has included steam tanks, which, while different from modern tanks, should be pretty similar.

    Anti tank guns are possible too, as modified ballistas with higher damage.

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    Wait a moment. Is North Korea not playable? I mean they have the 4rth largest army in the world and nuclear weapons.
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    Nothing is remotely finalized. Just a brainstorm. I'd probably Switch Syria with Iraq now that I think about it and Add NK as the 31st faction among other things.

    I'm tinkering with an Azimuthal Equidistant Projection of the Earth centered around the Gulf of Guinea. If you're not sure what that is, its similar to the one on the UN flag, albeit that's an arctic focus. I figure its the best way to show 21st century word trade routes, plus it's not how we usually look at the world. Plus it manages to only distort Australia and Indonesia, which is better than distorting Greenland. Australia is pretty big, so its not absurd. Plus it allows for Battlefield Antarctica.

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    The Northern Ice Cap isn't really worth it since it will grow and shrink, and could even disappear (if we're lucky) during the 21st century.

    I think the starting point should be September 2001. That way we recent history could be changed. 9/11 was a major turning point in world events. The dominoes are still falling.
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    can you mod? I've seen a few mod threads started by you that didn't get off the ground, although I'm really hoping you can get something started with this. It's a pretty good idea, and I like it (although my ideas for modern TW's always involve some kind of modern US Civil War/Faction split-up)

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    Great idea, but to realise it it is impossible. What modern war can be waged without aircraft or missiles? But as time aircraft and missiles to introduce in the M2TW impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirush2 View Post
    Great idea, but to realise it it is impossible. What modern war can be waged without aircraft or missiles? But as time aircraft and missiles to introduce in the M2TW impossible.

    Missiles can be done just like spells have been done. On another note I very much like this idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    WIP Brainstorm

    Medieval Game Play with Modern Nation States

    I selected 199 Cities which did a balanced job of representing world population, urbanization, and advancement. As such the United States has half again as many provinces as India. America has the infrastructure which dwarfs the few countries larger than it and is highly decentralized across both coasts and the Midwest. China still has the most provinces, however it will have internal problems which prevent it from steam rolling its ways across Asia for a while (same with India). The US begins with a huge debt.Smaller capital cities of other countries would be stone forts full of rebels while major military installations would be full of troops. For example Fort Bragg would be a major installation in what is North Carolina and Fort Benning would be an installation in Georgia and Fort Knox would be in Kentucky.

    The Assassin would be used for Strategic Air Power as they can attack enemy commanders and sabotage infrastructure. They'd have to have their move distance modified a bit. You put a fleet off their coast and you can use them to launch attacks at their cities and armies or deploy forces.

    Spies become Spy Satellites. Which can be disabled (caught.)

    Merchants represent entire companies developing the resources in an area.

    Diplomats wouldn't change very much.

    The two main religions are Globalism and Isolationism. Globalism is Catholicism and Isolationism is Heresy. The United Nations is located in NYC (I might consider NYC being 2 cities so the US will still have it), anyhow since everyone is UN any wars against powerful countries gets you shouted down by the UN. If you try to conquer too fast or otherwise mess with His Eminence the Secretary General Ban Ki Moon you can invoke a world wide Coalition Army to destroy you. "Terrorism" might be a Pagan religion, seeing as Witches have the ability to give negative effects. UN Inspectors (Inquisitors could also feature.)

    Sovereign (Playable) Factions:
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    The People's Republic of China 22 Provinces
    The Republic of Korea 3 Provinces
    The State of Japan 5 Provinces
    The Republic of Indonesia 2 Provinces
    The Republic of the Philippines 2 Provinces
    The Socialist Republic of Viet Nam 2 Provinces
    The Commonwealth of Australia 2 Provinces
    The Federal Republic of Brazil 11 Provinces
    The Republic of Colombia 3 Provinces
    The United States of America 20 Provinces
    The Canadian Confederation 3 Provinces
    The United States of Mexico 3 Provinces
    The United Kingdom 4 Provinces
    The Federal Republic of Germany 4 Provinces
    The Republic of Poland 2 Provinces
    The Russian Federation 2 Provinces
    The Republic of India 13 Provinces
    The Islamic Republic of Pakistan 4 Provinces
    The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia 2 Provinces
    The Islamic Republic of Iran 2 Provinces
    The Republic of Turkey 2 Provinces
    The Syrian Arab Republic 2 Provinces
    The Arab Republic of Egypt 2 Provinces
    The Federal Republic of Nigeria 2 Provinces
    The Republic of South Africa 3 Provinces
    The State of Israel 1 Province
    The Kingdom of Spain 2 Provinces
    The Italian Republic 3 Provinces
    The French Republic 1 Province
    The United Nations (Papacy) 1 Province


    Rebels:
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    The European Union (European Rebels Flag)
    -Northern European Rebels
    -Western European Rebels
    -South European Rebels
    -East European Rebels
    The African Union (African Rebels Flag)
    -North African Rebels
    -West African Rebels
    -Central African Rebels
    -South African Rebels
    -East African Rebels
    The Union of South American Nations (Latin American Rebels Flag)
    -Central American Rebels
    -South American Rebels
    The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (East Asian Rebels Flag)
    -East Asian Rebels
    -Southeast Asian Rebels
    The South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (Indian Subcontinent Rebels Flag)
    -Indian Rebels
    -West Asian Rebels
    The Arab League (North African and Middle Eastern Rebels)
    -Arab Rebels
    The Commonwealth of Nations (Anglo-Sphere Rebel Flag)
    -North American Rebels
    -British Rebels
    -Australian Rebels


    Various International Organizations (Guilds):
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    North Atlantic Treaty Organization
    Organization of Petroleum Exporting Nations

    etc.
    Nice ideas, has the potential to be an awesome mod

    Heres how id do it though, rather different so dont feel that you have to change it, though i still want to speak my mind:

    1 - Make the setting an alternate universe, America 80 years in the future.
    East asian companies have out competed and bought American companies. Companies based in Beijing, Hong Kong, Seoul and Tokyo now completely dominate the American economy; Naturally America becomes heavily engaged in the region. The economic bubble in Japan bursts, sinking Japan into a depression which eventually leads to a newly militaristic Japan. Regional connections draw America into a war with Japan even as the masses clamour to remain neutral and kick the foreign businessmen out of America. Asian businesses leave America to return to their homelands where they are needed for the war efforts, and in response to the massive protests. This slumps America into a massive depression.

    Around this time Japan develops satelites that can disarm nuclear weapons from space. With the nuclear option eliminated, insufficient manpower and resources, America must make a truce with Japan.

    Now it is the year 2094 and the American government holds little to no real power. True power is held by a series of militias and organizations scattered across the landscape.
    These would form the different factions.

    Since its in the future, you could include advanced technologies such as robots and Mech suits (which i have always wanted to see in a mod )

    Wow sorry for derailing but anyways love the mod concept, remember that just because its not 100% realistic (in other words, no air strikes/aerial vehicles on the battle map) doesnt mean you shouldnt pursue such a mod....good luck

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    1st. Instead of Globalism and Isolation, you could have Democracy or Dictatorship. And you may could give to the muslims the opportunity for jihads.
    2nd. Why not having a normal map, not earthlike shape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggggtotalwarrior View Post
    can you mod? I've seen a few mod threads started by you that didn't get off the ground, although I'm really hoping you can get something started with this. It's a pretty good idea, and I like it (although my ideas for modern TW's always involve some kind of modern US Civil War/Faction split-up)

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    I'm more of an ideas guy. Which of course I know doesn't go very far here. It's hard for me to commit too much energy to an idea or expect others to commit to my ideas. There's a few people on here who can do just about everything which boggles my mind. They can just make a pretty polished mod solo. The fact I'm aware that sale pitches of executive vision are insulting to people who have their own vision and more hands on ability. But Mods have their researchers and odd job type stuff. So that's where I see myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirush2 View Post
    Great idea, but to realise it it is impossible. What modern war can be waged without aircraft or missiles? But as time aircraft and missiles to introduce in the M2TW impossible.
    Strategic Map. Assassins can kill people and sabotage infrastructure. It's an abstraction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pazu the Kitsune View Post
    Nice ideas, has the potential to be an awesome mod

    Heres how id do it though, rather different so dont feel that you have to change it, though i still want to speak my mind:

    1 - Make the setting an alternate universe, America 80 years in the future.
    East asian companies have out competed and bought American companies. Companies based in Beijing, Hong Kong, Seoul and Tokyo now completely dominate the American economy; Naturally America becomes heavily engaged in the region. The economic bubble in Japan bursts, sinking Japan into a depression which eventually leads to a newly militaristic Japan. Regional connections draw America into a war with Japan even as the masses clamour to remain neutral and kick the foreign businessmen out of America. Asian businesses leave America to return to their homelands where they are needed for the war efforts, and in response to the massive protests. This slumps America into a massive depression.

    Around this time Japan develops satelites that can disarm nuclear weapons from space. With the nuclear option eliminated, insufficient manpower and resources, America must make a truce with Japan.

    Now it is the year 2094 and the American government holds little to no real power. True power is held by a series of militias and organizations scattered across the landscape.
    These would form the different factions.

    Since its in the future, you could include advanced technologies such as robots and Mech suits (which i have always wanted to see in a mod )
    Mechs are kind of silly. There's nothing a bipedal or quadrupedal vehicle can do better than a helicopter or wheeled vehicle. Powered Armor would be more realistic but limited to certain circumstances. Frankly I see body armor getting lighter and soldiers looking roughly half way between how they do now and articulated gothic armor, with the entire thing from head to toe being covered in adaptive camo.

    Wow sorry for derailing but anyways love the mod concept, remember that just because its not 100% realistic (in other words, no air strikes/aerial vehicles on the battle map) doesnt mean you shouldnt pursue such a mod....good luck
    I'm still stuck in terms of the feel I'd like to see. I think one could succeed in a high end RTS level of realism, but obviously it wouldn't exactly replicate real combat. Alternatively a highly stylized alternate universe could be quite cool and more closely follow the restraints of the engine. Part of me wants to see something eclectic and bizarre like a blend of medieval, Victorian, and modern stuff. There's something about a Conquistador with a arquebus that shoots bad science religion. Baroque "Clockwork Punk" is a bit less silly than the "Stick a top hat, greatcoat,and goggles on it" brand of Steam Punk aesthetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christonikos View Post
    1st. Instead of Globalism and Isolation, you could have Democracy or Dictatorship. And you may could give to the muslims the opportunity for jihads.
    2nd. Why not having a normal map, not earthlike shape?
    Well Globalism or Isolation is just in terms of whether or not you're down with the United Nations (Papacy) So either you're Catholic (Globalist), Heretic (Isolationist), or Pagan (Terrorist.) Religion doesn't really matter internationally. It's more of an internal thing. Turkey is secular, the Arabs are Sunni, the Persians are Shiite. There's no real cohesive Islam. Likewise the various Orthodox, various Catholics, and countless Protestant sects aren't really cohesive. They're more of an internal issue. International Security Assistance Forces work as crusades. I don't really see a polarization between UN and Anti-UN bodies. There are internal quibbles between the major powers, but its all quite tame.

    Normal Map would be pretty limited in terms of the shape. With a round map you can travel around better. For example if I do an east hemisphere vs west hemisphere divided by the Atlantic Ocean or Pacific Ocean that would be to the detriment of the other. On the other hand if I put the Americas in the middle with both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans as factors I have to split Asia in half. Or if Eurasia in central the Americas are split. This globe projection works a lot better although it looks pretty weird.
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    Mechs are kind of silly. There's nothing a bipedal or quadrupedal vehicle can do better than a helicopter or wheeled vehicle. Powered Armor would be more realistic but limited to certain circumstances. Frankly I see body armor getting lighter and soldiers looking roughly half way between how they do now and articulated gothic armor, with the entire thing from head to toe being covered in adaptive camo.
    I highly beg to differ with your point, good sir, bipedal mecha that are, say, 10 feet tall or less are more stealthy than helicopters and are able to get to rugged terrain that wheeled vehicles are not. Also great for raiding bases, since often times neither helicopters nor wheeled vehicles can get in.

    Anyways best of luck with your mod, if you ever decide to include bipedal mecha then contact me and ill happily get started on making the 3d models

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pazu the Kitsune View Post
    I highly beg to differ with your point, good sir, bipedal mecha that are, say, 10 feet tall or less are more stealthy than helicopters and are able to get to rugged terrain that wheeled vehicles are not. Also great for raiding bases, since often times neither helicopters nor wheeled vehicles can get in.

    Anyways best of luck with your mod, if you ever decide to include bipedal mecha then contact me and ill happily get started on making the 3d models
    That's powered armor. Mechas are way bigger than ten feet or less. Ten feet or less is a powered exoskeleton around six foot person. Mecha are big walking vehicles like Gundams or the giant walkers from Star Wars. If we're only arguing semantics it's not really an issue.

    I'll look for some concept art. I'm still trying to decide if this should be futuristic or an alternative world. I put in a poll.
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    Mechs in total war? Now that would be interesting. Though i dont think that mechs would be in the modern era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skynet464 View Post
    Mechs in total war? Now that would be interesting. Though i dont think that mechs would be in the modern era.
    If you want Mechs, try Planet War beta.

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